Blade vs. Wolverine

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Certainly nothing to do with hand speed, or reflexes... nothing.

Perhaps, but I just felt the need to throw the last two in.

Read a book involving him. He's pretty on the ball. Certainly not bad enough to discredit bullet blocking/blocking.

Blocking bullets does not translate to fighting speed, I'm sorry, but it's true. Yea it shows he has good reflexes, but that is already known. Beyond that it is really not a good gauge like I previously said. He can block bullets, so what, we see he is still hit by much slower objects (punches, kicks, etc.). We see he is at times unable to hit people moving slowing than bullets. So tell me, what does the fact that he can block bullets actually tell us?

I have read X-men/Uncanny/X-treme and his solo series when it was still around.

Originally posted by Mindset
Blocking bullets does not translate to fighting speed, I'm sorry, but it's true. Yea it shows he has good reflexes, but that is already known. Beyond that it is really not a good gauge like I previously said. He can block bullets, so what, we see he is still hit by much slower objects (punches, kicks, etc.). We see he is at times unable to hit people moving slowing than bullets. So tell me, what does the fact that he can block bullets actually tell us?

I have read X-men/Uncanny/X-treme and his solo series when it was still around.


And? You're reasoning goes for... every character in comics.
Bullet dodging equates to hand speed. And... depends on what happened when Gambit did it (which is why I just said "fast".).

Keep in mind I'm not arguing about a fight, I'm saying that just because Gambit has done so it doesn't make it a bad feat, like it seemed. I don't really care about who wins here, or who has blocked the most bullets, just felt like adding a tasty tidbit.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How was Logan able to kill Blade? He don't have any vampiric weaknesses. None that I know of anyways. Logan made the mistake of getting too close to Blade and he suffered from it. Well at least he made the right choice. He's never shaken off having pure vampire blood put into his blood stream that I know of. Shield gave Blade some info on Wolverine. Now that I think about it Shield used to have a division that was devoted to vampire research called Silvereye.

Nothing about Blade's career leads me to believe that Wolverine decapitating him wouldn't be effective. His HF is tame.

He's shaken off Dracula's bite, I don't see a vampire virus being more effective than a werewolf one.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Uncanny X-Men annual #6.

It's like you just don't get it.... The effect of the bite lasted what? 2 minutes? five at most?

Or maybe it's that you do get it but choose to ignore what you don't like.

And uhhh yeah if you consider turning into mist to run from Logan as pwning. 🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're right, and that's Why to this day Wolverine is a vampire. 🙂

😂

or maybe I should have stuck with him just not getting it.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's like you just don't get it.... The effect of the bite lasted what? 2 minutes? five at most?

Or maybe it's that you do get it but choose to ignore what you don't like.

And uhhh yeah if you consider turning into mist to run from Logan as pwning. 🙄

Whoa whoa whoa what issue is this? Didnt Wolverine say his HF was reduced?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Whoa whoa whoa what issue is this? Didnt Wolverine say his HF was reduced?
This is years old.

Originally posted by Noraa Senoj
This is years old.

Im not sure what the point is here because I think that scan was used as evidence that Wolverines HF has increased.

So basically recently Wolverine said his HF is reduced but an issue that is years old takes precedence over a recent statement by Wolverine?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Gambit is also incredibly fast, agile, and an OK fighter... he's also extremely underrated.

So...

blade has stalemated gambit before

I know it's been said also wolverine has beaten gambit on multiple occasions bu the only fights of them I can find gambit won

Originally posted by jinzin
It's like you just don't get it.... The effect of the bite lasted what? 2 minutes? five at most?

Or maybe it's that you do get it but choose to ignore what you don't like.

And uhhh yeah if you consider turning into mist to run from Logan as pwning. 🙄

thats saying his healing factor has increased since his loss of his adamantium skeleton he has it back now so Im guessing it went back down...plus the recent decrease in power it has had a vampire bite would heal a lot slower, it took a while with spidermans radioactive blood for wolverine the vampire blood would last hours, even if it lasted only half an hour thats more than enough time

ok heres how Ithink it goes:

Without prep:
wolverine 6-7/10

with prep:
blade takes the majority not sure how many (whats to stop blade from taking the mura masa or again bring the vial)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
thats saying his healing factor has increased since his loss of his adamantium skeleton he has it back now so Im guessing it went back down...plus the recent decrease in power it has had a vampire bite would heal a lot slower, it took a while with spidermans radioactive blood for wolverine the vampire blood would last hours, even if it lasted only half an hour thats more than enough time
No his healing factor stayed at that level or abouts and I believe got even better.

Originally posted by Noraa Senoj
No his healing factor stayed at that level or abouts and I believe got even better.
no I know for a fact recently it's decreased in power (even slightly it has decreased) the point is though the vampire blood would affect wolverine long enough for blade to just throw a grenade filled with solar energy o throw some holy water over wolverine

even if wolverine does manage to hit him blades healing factor is strong enough to allow him to survive being impales and dismemberment

Originally posted by jinzin
It's like you just don't get it.... The effect of the bite lasted what? 2 minutes? five at most?

Or maybe it's that you do get it but choose to ignore what you don't like.

And uhhh yeah if you consider turning into mist to run from Logan as pwning. 🙄

I don't think you get it. Show me the panel that shows Logan's healing factor fighting off the enzyme? I bet you can't because it had nothing to do with him.

Come on now son.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Gambit is also incredibly fast, agile, and an OK fighter... he's also extremely underrated.

So...

I agree. Gambit is a stud.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And? You're reasoning goes for... every character in comics.
Bullet dodging equates to hand speed. And... depends on what happened when Gambit did it (which is why I just said "fast".).

Keep in mind I'm not arguing about a fight, I'm saying that just because Gambit has done so it doesn't make it a bad feat, like it seemed. I don't really care about who wins here, or who has blocked the most bullets, just felt like adding a tasty tidbit.


I know my reasoning goes for every comic character, Gambit was just the example I was using. That's why I said bullet blocking isn't a good tool for finding fighting speed, I didn't say it just isn't a good gauge only for Gambit, but ok for everyone else... And I assume you mean bullet blocking and not dodging, as they are obviously not the same. The ability to hit a fast moving projectile, such as blocking bullets, something many people have done, does not show they can hit fast moving opponents or dodge punches thrown.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
thats saying his healing factor has increased since his loss of his adamantium skeleton he has it back now so Im guessing it went back down...plus the recent decrease in power it has had a vampire bite would heal a lot slower, it took a while with spidermans radioactive blood for wolverine the vampire blood would last hours, even if it lasted only half an hour thats more than enough time

His healing factor has increased since the 90's even with his recent downgrade it is stronger than it was back then. Adamantium used to be harmful to him, but the adamantium he got from Apoc is not. Spiderman's healing factor is not even close to being as good as Wolverine's.

I thought you said you read Wolverine comics?

Originally posted by Mindset
His healing factor has increased since the 90's even with his recent downgrade it is stronger than it was back then. Adamantium used to be harmful to him, but the adamantium he got from Apoc is not. Spiderman's healing factor is not even close to being as good as Wolverine's.

I thought you said you read Wolverine comics?

I do, I never said his healing factor was weak, my point was that the vampire blood would be able t oturn him long enough for blade to take advantage of it

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't think you get it. Show me the panel that shows Logan's healing factor fighting off the enzyme? I bet you can't because it had nothing to do with him.

Come on now son.

Yea, I'd like to hear the answer to that question snoop. Maybe I missed something but I was under the impression that it wasn't Logan's healing factor that fought off the bite. Maybe they read the special edition?