Originally posted by guy222
Hulk fans will love it
No we won't, most of us were already sick of this RHulk BS after the first issue.
I'm sick of this shit. I can't even read Hulk anymore. This is not the same comic book I grew up reading, and it's certainly not the same character I have loyalties to.
This ****-up Jeph Loeb (which is the worst way to spell "Jeff" I have ever ****ing seen) has ruined everything about a Hulk story in this book. Hell, WWH wasn't worth the paper it was printed on either. Hulk used to be about something MORE than just smashing. I miss when Hulk was a thought-provoking read; a psychological thriller more-or-less.
I miss Peter David.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
No we won't, most of us were already sick of this RHulk BS after the first issue.I'm sick of this shit. I can't even read Hulk anymore. This is not the same comic book I grew up reading, and it's certainly not the same character I have loyalties to.
This ****-up Jeph Loeb (which is the worst way to spell "Jeff" I have ever ****ing seen) has ruined everything about a Hulk story in this book. Hell, WWH wasn't worth the paper it was printed on either. Hulk used to be about something MORE than just smashing. I miss when Hulk was a thought-provoking read; a psychological thriller more-or-less.
I miss Peter David.
Hulk around the end of House of M onwards, was pretty awesome, the Betty-Nadia stuff, the situation with Abomination, Banner's use of meditation and the growing harmony between Banner's many aspects.
Planet Hulk was excellent and in-synch with a lot of that.
Red Hulk, if it turns out to be some creature separate to and independent of Hulk/Banner, might suck big time but, Hulk will return in this series... hopefully it'll be engaging once Green's back.
Originally posted by janus77
WWH wasn't bad, it wasn't quite the revenge/payback thrill it might have been and it did end up being a bit of a smash-fest but it wasn't that bad.Hulk around the end of House of M onwards, was pretty awesome, the Betty-Nadia stuff, the situation with Abomination, Banner's use of meditation and the growing harmony between Banner's many aspects.
Planet Hulk was excellent and in-synch with a lot of that.
Red Hulk, if it turns out to be some creature separate to and independent of Hulk/Banner, might suck big time but, Hulk will return in this series... hopefully it'll be engaging once Green's back.
WWH sucked and any logical fan knows that.
I am a fan of Hulk, but it sucked it plain sucked.
Planet Hulk was awesome.
Originally posted by Ricardo Potter
WWH sucked and any logical fan knows that.I am a fan of Hulk, but it sucked it plain sucked.
Planet Hulk was awesome.
not that I'm expecting great things from you, but I do hate to put people on ignore before they've had time to prove my estimations of them right 🙂.
It was boring, predicable and stupid as hell.
It just lacked the interesting factor comics have. Not only that but the ending was stupid as hell. I will punish you all, I'll smash you all. Instead I'll wait till you are about to smash each other and stop and make you look like bad guys by me smashing NY.
That was a half drunk response.
Ignore because I don't like your pathetic fanboy comic?
well to begin with, it was about whether Hulk is or is not the monster others claim he is. it was his own desire to live upto their 'expectations', the revenge, the smashing, it was all to show them what a monster would do, what Hulk could always have done but never did do (previously). thus the show of mercy before the killing blow in the fight between Tony and Reed.
the revenge angle was played heavily with Hulk's agenda driven smash-jobs, never ever bothering to chase a fight or to continue one any longer than the minimum necessary to the target he has in mind.
Cho was just there to give narrative reinforcement to what the story was showing us, or it seems attempting to show us (as it didn't succeed universally), which is that Hulk is not a monster and never has been but has always treated as one even though he never ever cut-loose or really caused the levels of carnage he is well capable of.
this also played into the previously constructed theme of the "World Breaker" and savior duality to Hulk, established and expanded upon in Planet Hulk.
I just think it was, in parts, poorly executed, in parts unimaginative (as are most if not all popular comics), in parts disappointing (the fights with Zom/Strange and BlackBolt both lacked resonance given the fact that these were people on his 'hit list', especially the fight with BlackBolt) and quite underwhelming in terms of "Strongest Hulk" feats. Hulk pulled off ridiculously powerful feats in Planet Hulk without the motivation and rage he had for WWH, yet in WWH he was pretty much safety-on for ALL the fights, never once letting loose. only by the end of Meik's "never stop making them pay" speech did we finally see Hulk's rage boil over to a new plateau and even then, his self-hate and the satellite beams nixed the event 😐.
overall, not great but not particularly bad by comic standards.
though I doubt you're at all interested in Hulk comics, I suspect you're just another one of those forummers infected with the viral plague of "hulk hate".
the writer just should have nixed the zom/strange merger cause it was hard to believe. the arch demon dormammu is closely rivaled by zom.
but the rest of wwh is a testament to how much he held back through his career, didn't have to kill his opponents nor should he since he is a lot smarter/rational. the way to make someone feel your anguish is to put them in your shoes(thats what he wanted to do before the sentry interrupted him) killing them just makes you look like the monster they labeled you as.
exactly, Hulk could never kill any of the illuminati or else he becomes what they said he was.
on a related but tangential note:
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I don't see why people here go on and on about how "ridiculous it is that Hulk never accidentally kills people", when 1) we're reading about friggin' gamma spawned monsters, 2) Hulk's always had an ability to guess and plot vectors bordering on the paranormal so that the idea of Banner being the calculating part of him makes some sense and 3) friggin weather manipulation imperils BILLIONS every single friggin' time, if you're gonna *****, be consistent 😐.
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Originally posted by janus77Now that is an opinion I can respect. But I find the story stupid, planning it out was just BS.
well to begin with, it was about whether Hulk is or is not the monster others claim he is. it was his own desire to live upto their 'expectations', the revenge, the smashing, it was all to show them what a monster would do, what Hulk could always have done but never did do (previously). thus the show of mercy before the killing blow in the fight between Tony and Reed.the revenge angle was played heavily with Hulk's agenda driven smash-jobs, never ever bothering to chase a fight or to continue one any longer than the minimum necessary to the target he has in mind.
Cho was just there to give narrative reinforcement to what the story was showing us, or it seems attempting to show us (as it didn't succeed universally), which is that Hulk is not a monster and never has been but has always treated as one even though he never ever cut-loose or really caused the levels of carnage he is well capable of.
this also played into the previously constructed theme of the "World Breaker" and savior duality to Hulk, established and expanded upon in Planet Hulk.I just think it was, in parts, poorly executed, in parts unimaginative (as are most if not all popular comics), in parts disappointing (the fights with Zom/Strange and BlackBolt both lacked resonance given the fact that these were people on his 'hit list', especially the fight with BlackBolt) and quite underwhelming in terms of "Strongest Hulk" feats. Hulk pulled off ridiculously powerful feats in Planet Hulk without the motivation and rage he had for WWH, yet in WWH he was pretty much safety-on for ALL the fights, never once letting loose. only by the end of Meik's "never stop making them pay" speech did we finally see Hulk's rage boil over to a new plateau and even then, his self-hate and the satellite beams nixed the event 😐.
overall, not great but not particularly bad by comic standards.
though I doubt you're at all interested in Hulk comics, I suspect you're just another one of those forummers infected with the viral plague of "hulk hate".