The Boss & Liquid Snake vs. Colonel Volgin

Started by Menetnashté3 pages

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Um...Snake could still fight back. His arms weren't broken. All the Boss did was hit him a few times and knock him down once.
He took more damage on the bridge in theri first fight.
Volgin just beat the shit out of him and he was helpless to Volgin's power.
Oh and Snake took down Volgin AFTER Volgin took his attention away. He could have easily shot Snake first if he wanted to but he chose Sokolov.

Yeah his arms weren't broken but he made no effort to fight back, before volgin hit snake he picked him up off the ground and held him there for a few good seconds, and you're going to sit there and tell me he could've fought back? Yeah, don't think so. And Volgin took his attention away on sokolov but snake struck when he had his gun ON HIM.

So...did I win? 😕

I say team boss would win, I really don't see why people make such a big deal out of Volgin, he's nothing special and is really easy to beat, that said he is really durable and if he was close to a electrical source with limited cover he could take the victory.

Originally posted by Menetnashté
So...did I win? 😕

Only if you give me 5 e-dollars.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
#1: Jaxx... Seriously now... I said of his reaction times reguarding his H2H fight, not the rocket...

#2: Again, your misusing the contecxt, that comment was reguarding the h2h fight not the rocket...

#1&2: I see now where you 2 may have gotten off track... in terms of the h2h fight, Snake was simply more skilled in the area, Volgin's strength and powers don't nessisarily have a bearing in that unless he can actually get a shot off, which doesn't always work when your train of thought gets inmterrupted whenever you cop a fist to the face.

This obliously doesn't ring true when you have time to set up at least a partial defence against a rocket attack, Volgin wasn't completely undamaged by the RPG remember?

#3: Flames is one thing, explosions are another... your making an assumption based on the fact that the flames are there... if there was an explosion, especially if it's contained, Volgin would have been powder, and if he had enough durability to withstand that, then his own bullets going off would not have killed him.

Versatility? the guy's the electrical powered equivelant of a minotaur, theres no finess or overall standing of skill there, oh yes, he's strong and durable... but as I've pointed out, the inconcistency of his feats draw into question his actual level of ability...

1. No you didn't, you said maybe he blocked the rocket with an EM field, which he didn't. He took it head on.

2. Read above.

3. Snake has more skill. That's it. Volgin has far greater strength, durability, versatility, and power. It takes more than skill to beat that. And by his feats, Snake would break his knuckles punching Volgin. Snake beating Volgin is PIS.

He didn't set up any defense against it.

4. His durability by the time the bullets got him was compromised. It's like when Bison took a nuke, and was then killed by Jet gunfire. He had just fought Snake, had the Shagohod blow up on him, tanked at least one rocket, been struck by lightning and was caught on fire. His durability wasn't in its prime.

Snake is a guy with H2H skills and guns. Volgin is super strong, super durable, has electricity powers, can fire bullets from his bare hands and can fire a dozen by levitating them, and stuff. Yeah, he is way more versatile. He has one inconsistent feat, being beaten by Snake. PIS.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No you didn't, you said maybe he blocked the rocket with an EM field, which he didn't. He took it head on.

2. Read above.

3. Snake has more skill. That's it. Volgin has far greater strength, durability, versatility, and power. It takes more than skill to beat that. And by his feats, Snake would break his knuckles punching Volgin. Snake beating Volgin is PIS.

He didn't set up any defense against it.

4. His durability by the time the bullets got him was compromised. It's like when Bison took a nuke, and was then killed by Jet gunfire. He had just fought Snake, had the Shagohod blow up on him, tanked at least one rocket, been struck by lightning and was caught on fire. His durability wasn't in its prime.

Snake is a guy with H2H skills and guns. Volgin is super strong, super durable, has electricity powers, can fire bullets from his bare hands and can fire a dozen by levitating them, and stuff. Yeah, he is way more versatile. He has one inconsistent feat, being beaten by Snake. PIS.

#1: Heh, what are you taking about, throughout that fight he aways had the shield up, the only time it wasn't is when the treads where blown (his only weak point during the fight when he's riding the Shagohod.

#2: Read above, it directly rebukes your theory on the shield

#3: It's a bleeding shame that Volgin is also flesh and blood, has weaknesses, and is far too slow to match your thesis of him..., yes, I didn't say he wasn't versatile, but nowhere near Snakes level... THE only advantages he has is pure brute force, durability, and electrical powers... Skill speed versatility combat capability and overall inteligence belong to Snake, and even moreso to the Boss.

If he blocked everything else during the match from the front with the shield, then I see no reason why he wouldn't do it there.

#4: You need to prove that Volgin was even endangered by the explosion, the Shagohod is huge, and armoured, if it where localised insoide the cockpit, he would have been soup no mater his durability. Forst, concussion wave, then flames, and finally debris, the entire thing would have caved in on itself.

Another thing, if the thing exploded, it NEVER would have worked, it's control circuits would have been fried, internal mechanisms would have been destroyed, and it's ammo would have blown it sky high. This alone proves that the Shagohod, while damaged, did NOT explode in any way, nore was the cockpit ever ripped to peices when Volgon came out.

PLUS, Volgin's electrical powers are limited, he can only use them continouosly for breif periods, whereupon he has to 'Recharge' himself, AND, like I said before, Strength and endurance are only 2 smaller factors when considering the outcome of a match. Although... I do wonder who out of the two has more combat experience, Volgin was involved in quite alot of small local wars and such... but we all know the BOSS is by far the most experienced here...

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Only if you give me 5 e-dollars.

Can I give you two and pay you back on the fifth?

*shakes hand*
Deal.