Magneto & Dr.Polaris VS Doomsday [DOS]

Originally posted by Avlon
How is Mags going to get up there in time? He surely isn't faster than DD who was compared with the Flash in DOS.

Magneto has flown to the moon in one panel. Something tells me him flying upwards out of Doomsday's range wouldn't be a problem.

And he was only compared to "Flash" by Booster Gold... a human. At that speed, it's hard to tell the difference between someone like Doomsday and Flash, especially for someone with human reflexes.

Originally posted by Avlon
By the time Mags tries to fly up or gets enough metal to shoot out, he'll be dead.

Doubtful.

Originally posted by Avlon
He does have to concentrate to avoid the assault. Hell, I just showed him beating the hell out of a GL and GL>>>>Mags.

Most Green Lanterns shown on panel are used for nothing other than cannon fodder. Saying that no-name GL is superior to Magneto is ridiculous, and a baseless assumption.

Originally posted by Avlon
Flash like speed, almost ridiculous adaptation to energy, incalculable strength, and you expect Mags to win?

He did well against Thor in the scan I posted. ❌

You showed a single scan from their entire fight. Before that, Magneto was more than holding his own against Thor. He even magnetically grabbed Mjolnir so Thor couldn't reach it, then 60 seconds later Thor reverted to Donald Blake. What you posted was Thor getting in a sneak attack while Magneto's back was turned.

Anyway, considering that fight took place in Thor's own title series, Magneto did pretty good. And as someone already mentioned, it's 40+ years old. Since then, Magneto has become much more powerful.

In another showing, Magneto laughed off Thor's shots saying something like "mere physical force cannot penetrate my force field."

And considering Magneto has easily restrained the Hulk, I'd say he could do so to DOS Doomsday.

A question since I haven't read DOS in a long time, and don't remember hardly any speed showings (besides chasing Superman while jumping) from him:

Was it his reflexes that were compared to Flash, or was it his travel speed?
Because his reflexes are A+... I just don't recall many speed showings.

srug

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
A question since I haven't read DOS in a long time, and don't remember hardly any speed showings (besides chasing Superman while jumping) from him:

Was it his reflexes that were compared to Flash, or was it his travel speed?
Because his reflexes are A+... I just don't recall many speed showings.

srug

Gold was referring to his speed.

Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto has flown to the moon in one panel. Something tells me him flying upwards out of Doomsday's range wouldn't be a problem.

And he was only compared to "Flash" by Booster Gold... a human. At that speed, it's hard to tell the difference between someone like Doomsday and Flash, especially for someone with human reflexes.

Strangely enough, Superman, and GL's have flown much faster than that...and still get tagged by DD.

If you want Mags to basically bfr himself...

Originally posted by batdude123
Doubtful.

Unless the fight is in a junkyard... standard shrapnel isn't going to do a thing to DD.. especially since he moves much faster than Mags can think.

He'll be too busy trying to keep his field from being broken (which won't take long)

Originally posted by batdude123
Most Green Lanterns shown on panel are used for nothing other than cannon fodder. Saying that no-name GL is superior to Magneto is ridiculous, and a baseless assumption.

GL is still >>>>>>Mags. Fodder or not.

Originally posted by batdude123
You showed a single scan from their entire fight. Before that, Magneto was more than holding his own against Thor. He even magnetically grabbed Mjolnir so Thor couldn't reach it, then 60 seconds later Thor reverted to Donald Blake. What you posted was Thor getting in a sneak attack while Magneto's back was turned.

Anyway, considering that fight took place in Thor's own title series, Magneto did pretty good. And as someone already mentioned, it's 40+ years old. Since then, Magneto has become much more powerful.

In another showing, Magneto laughed off Thor's shots saying something like "mere physical force cannot penetrate my force field."

And considering Magneto has easily restrained the Hulk, I'd say he could do so to DOS Doomsday.

DOS Doomsday matched Superman blow for blow and with speed, destroyed GL shields, absorbed a Guardians attack, and took out the JLA effortlessly.

Thor still owned Mags at the end. DD doesn't talk (at least not at that time) and goes straight for the kill.

Mags is a powerful mutant, but he surely isn't matching a guy that stomps top tier characters.

Honestly how is Doomsday going to attack Magneto or Dr. Polaris when they're a mile off the ground? What prevents them from just picking him up in some metal and hurling him into space?

Doomsday can't jump that high, and unless he managed to tag them past their shields by throwing something... which I don't see happening. How exactly is he supposed to hurt either of them? Even if he manages to tag one before they can get out of his reach, the other one makes it, and the winning tactic can still be used by only one.

BTW fight is supposed to take place in the middle of a major city. like metropolis .

lol alot of Doomsday vs Magneto with no mention of Dr. Polaris. sure he isnt as deadly of magneto but he does well as a distraction, buying time for magneto to do what some of you are saying he can do.

plus i think i remember something along the lines of magneto being able to be powered up with the help of another magnetic powered based mutant Polaris [marvel].. couldnt something of that nature take place between him and Dr.Polaris acting as a power battery for reserve power?

Originally posted by Avlon
Strangely enough, Superman, and GL's have flown much faster than that...and still get tagged by DD.

That's because Superman chooses to engage in physical combat. Magneto has no reason to do that, and he has the ability to stay out of Doomsday's range. Unless Doomsday has a reach of 100 feet, Magneto dictates the pace of the match.

Originally posted by Avlon
If you want Mags to basically bfr himself...

How is staying in the air, away from Doomsday BFRing himself?

Originally posted by Avlon
Unless the fight is in a junkyard... standard shrapnel isn't going to do a thing to DD.. especially since he moves much faster than Mags can think.

I know, right? Because Magneto is only capable of controlling metal. 👆

Originally posted by Avlon
He'll be too busy trying to keep his field from being broken (which won't take long)

Aside from the fact that he's easily restrained Hulk and has laughed off Thor's shots, what do you think Dr. Polaris will be doing when all this happens? Handing out lollipops on the street corner?

Originally posted by Avlon
GL is still >>>>>>Mags. Fodder or not.

Prove that that specific Green Lantern shown is superior to Magneto.

Most Green Lanterns aren't Kyle or Hal... or even Guy, for that matter.

Originally posted by Avlon
DOS Doomsday matched Superman blow for blow and with speed, destroyed GL shields, absorbed a Guardians attack, and took out the JLA effortlessly.

Back when a gas station explosion was able to knock Superman out. A Green Lantern that has absolutely no feats.

As for the Guardian feat, that's damn impressive, but this is DOS Doomsday we're talking about. In other words, only feats he accomplished during that arc are applicable. Spin it any which way you want, even though that feat came before Doomsday arrived on Earth, it's pretty apparent he's > DOS version of himself.

And the JLA at that time had some true B-listers on it.

Originally posted by Avlon
Thor still owned Mags at the end. DD doesn't talk (at least not at that time) and goes straight for the kill.

It's important not to ignore context.

1. Magneto beat Thor in the first round.

2. It's folly to use 40+ year old instances to back your claims, especially considering Magneto was much less powerful back then.

Originally posted by Avlon
Mags is a powerful mutant, but he surely isn't matching a guy that stomps top tier characters.

Aside from Superman (who was much weaker back then), what other top tier characters did DOS Doomsday stomp? Fire? Ice? Blue Beetle? Booster Gold? Yep, real top tiers alright.

And I guess you seem to be forgetting that Dr. Polaris is also backing up Magneto in this fight.

Originally posted by batdude123
Most Green Lanterns aren't Kyle or Hal... or even Guy, for that matter.

Shut the fu(k up.

He fought the Martian, too, in his Bloodwynd disguise. But J'onn was also much weaker back then.

Um, and everyone pointing out Doomsday beating the JLA... so has Dr. Polaris. And that was a MUCH stronger League Polaris beat.

Originally posted by llagrok
Shut the fu(k up.

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Originally posted by tjcoady
Um, and everyone pointing out Doomsday beating the JLA... so has Dr. Polaris. And that was a MUCH stronger League Polaris beat.

True enough.

Originally posted by batdude123

Aside from Superman (who was much weaker back then), what other top tier characters did DOS Doomsday stomp? Fire? Ice? Blue Beetle? Booster Gold? Yep, real top tiers alright.

He wtfpwned that scary MM lookalike.

Hasn't Mags gotten an on-panel power-up since then?

Also, Doomsday had a GL ring when he fought the Guardian...

Originally posted by Master-Borg
He wtfpwned that scary MM lookalike.

Who did almost nothing aside from providing some eye blasts.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Hasn't Mags gotten an on-panel power-up since then?

A few, actually.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Also, Doomsday had a GL ring when he fought the Guardian...

Awesome. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
Who did almost nothing aside from providing some eye blasts.

DD also wtfpwned Maxima.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
DD also wtfpwned Maxima.

Quite the opposite actually. She was putting a beat down on him before she was injured by the gas station explosion (lol).

Originally posted by batdude123
Quite the opposite actually. She was putting a beat down on him before she was injured by the gas station explosion (lol).

also, you have to remember that DD not only battled Superman but he was fighting the Lex Corp army who blasted him with lasers throughout the whole battle

Originally posted by Master-Borg
meh...my only memory of her was her punching Superman when DD ducked

also, you have to remember that DD not only battled Superman but he was fighting the Lex Corp army who blasted him with lasers throughout the whole battle

Magneto and Dr. Polaris>>>>Lex Corp army.

Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto and Dr. Polaris>>>>Lex Corp army.

The lex Army fired a shitload of lasers at DD. 😐

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Prove it, goddamn it batdude Im sick of your debating style. you can't just make a baseless claim without any evidence supporting it. 😠

The lex Army fired a shitload of lasers at DD. 😐

Lol, I can't tell if you're joking are not.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's because Superman chooses to engage in physical combat. Magneto has no reason to do that, and he has the ability to stay out of Doomsday's range. Unless Doomsday has a reach of 100 feet, Magneto dictates the pace of the match.

Why would DD need range of a 100 feet when he has the capability to move at speeds that Mags cannot? It's not like DD stands around to think about his actions, he just goes for the kill.

"60 miles might as well be 60 paces to this monster."

Originally posted by batdude123
How is staying in the air, away from Doomsday BFRing himself?

You mentioned Mags going to the moon, not I.

Originally posted by batdude123
I know, right? Because Magneto is only capable of controlling metal. 👆

Metal is his forte'. Other abilities require much more concentration. Something he won't have time to do.

Originally posted by batdude123
Aside from the fact that he's easily restrained Hulk and has laughed off Thor's shots, what do you think Dr. Polaris will be doing when all this happens? Handing out lollipops on the street corner?

Hulk is variable, and Thor whooped his ass at the end when he stopped playing around. Mags can only sustain himself so long under that type of pressure.

Originally posted by batdude123
Prove that that specific Green Lantern shown is superior to Magneto.

Most Green Lanterns aren't Kyle or Hal... or even Guy, for that matter.

I believe it goes to you to show how a Magnetism guy is superior to a guy who can do basically anything and has training on this without any kind of PIS.

Originally posted by batdude123
Back when a gas station explosion was able to knock Superman out. A Green Lantern that has absolutely no feats.

As for the Guardian feat, that's damn impressive, but this is DOS Doomsday we're talking about. In other words, only feats he accomplished during that arc are applicable. Spin it any which way you want, even though that feat came before Doomsday arrived on Earth, it's pretty apparent he's > DOS version of himself.

And the JLA at that time had some true B-listers on it.

Wrong. That IS part of DOS Doomsdays past so it's quite usable. I haven't used H/P material which takes place afterwards.

Originally posted by batdude123
It's important not to ignore context.

1. Magneto beat Thor in the first round.

2. It's folly to use 40+ year old instances to back your claims, especially considering Magneto was much less powerful back then.

Wasn't Mags downgraded recently? While he did to get some of his power back..it's not what it used to be..and even at his height...still not herald level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Aside from Superman (who was much weaker back then), what other top tier characters did DOS Doomsday stomp? Fire? Ice? Blue Beetle? Booster Gold? Yep, real top tiers alright.

Let's see...he was absorbing and adapting to a guardians blasts to the point where the guardian had to bfr him, beat a GL straight up, Superman, Maxima, Bloodwind, Guy, countless worlds, etc.

Doesn't sound like a lot, but considering we're forced to limit DD, that isn't bad at all.

Originally posted by batdude123
And I guess you seem to be forgetting that Dr. Polaris is also backing up Magneto in this fight.

I haven't forgotten anything about Polaris. He's pretty much fodder to DD. Oh, and since someone mentioned Polaris beating the JLA, he's also lost individually to them as well. 🙂 DD has lost to let's see...Supes, Imperiex, Entropy Aegis, and Entropy. The last 3 which are all part of entropy in some way, shape, or form.