Black Panther vs. Batman: H2H Only

Originally posted by thadarknite84
BP has no physical advantages over Batman from what I see. All I hear is talk and no scans to prove that he's faster or stronger. And than people want to try to use Captain America as an example, stating that BP is no par with Cap as if Batman isn't.

The only thingI'm arguing against is this notion of yours that Batman wins because he has ridiculous feats (as you said) "as if {any established street level} didn't"...

The thing is Cap and Bat's are virtual equals, BP and Cap are virtual equals....
So if 2=2
And 2=2
Why does the batman 2>over BP's 2?

And since this is a crossover battle that's never taken place, both contestants having no clear advantage over the other I see no other choice BUT to imply ABC logic. That said, I see this fight as a 5/5 split.

On second thought "white rich guy vs. black African"?

I better say BP 5.5/10 just to be PC...don't want the president of BET comin after me...

Incredibly rich Black african

Originally posted by Apolloknight
That would be ABC logic. Besides, as jizin said in a previous post, Cap and BP fights have always been decided by "circumstances" (probably in an attempt to keep them equals without ever showing who is truly the better).

I believe batman knows the most styles of combat of any street leveler (cept for maybe wolverine) on the forum, but I don't think it gives him a definite edge over guys like Cap, DD, or BP who have taken all the styles they've learned and crafted into their own unique style of combat (which of course batman doesn't know).

Barring all the PIS events of BP taking on Surfer and batman taking punches from Superman; I look at what he has been able to do when matched with Cap.

He has been able to weave/duck/dodge/move in, around, on top, and pretty much anywhere he wanted to in all of his cap fights win or lose. I view this as BP being faster and more agile then cap, while cap is stronger and more durable.

And since I believe BP is faster and more agile then BM; coupled with his unique style of combat which batman will have never fought against, that is what will give T'challa his edge over batman.

Batmans wealth traditional combat styles vs T'challa superior stats in unique style.

I still say they would spilt even, maybe a slight edge for T'challa (because he will be so hard for batman to read at first)

Batman incorporates everything he has mastered into his own unique style, tailored in the fearsome image of a bat. And Batman is also a difficult fighter to read. BP really has no edge on Batman. I think the difference is that Batman pushes himself more. And that is why he take the majority, 6/10.

Originally posted by Mindset
Incredibly rich Black african

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman incorporates everything he has mastered into his own unique style, tailored in the fearsome image of a bat. And Batman is also a difficult fighter to read. BP really has no edge on Batman. I think the difference is that Batman pushes himself more. And that is why he take the majority, 6/10.

Originally posted by jinzin
*sigh* that's a fabricated advantage.

It's not a lie. Do you truly believe that BP pushes himself as hard as Batman?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It's not a lie. Do you truly believe that BP pushes himself as hard as Batman?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
More techniques=more ways to beat an opponent. Batman master 127 styles of MA. He knows how to deafened against certain attacks that few in the world know how to.

So, Batman would have the advantage over someone that only knew 1 style?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, Batman would have the advantage over someone that only knew 1 style?

Being able to attack your opponent with more variety while they have less ability to defend certainly sounds like an advantage to me.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It's not a lie. Do you truly believe that BP pushes himself as hard as Batman?

Was the color commentary really necessary Jinzin?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, Batman would have the advantage over someone that only knew 1 style?

Mastering 127 martial arts styles and all of their secrets is part of it. The other part is willpower and his drive to push himself to his limits. No matter how difficult the challenge is. Chances are that if his opponent only knows or mastered one style, Batman already knows the ins and outs of that style. And chances are that his opponent doesn't train as rigorously or as obsessively as he does. Even when his opponents have decades of experience over him, they still fall to his sheer concentration and ability to pinpoint weakness’s in their offense and defense. Batman demonstrates this when he fight Ra's Al Ghul and his father Sensei.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Mastering 127 martial arts styles and all of their secrets is part of it. The other part is willpower and his drive to push himself to his limits. No matter how difficult the challenge is. Chances are that if his opponent only knows or mastered one style, Batman already knows the ins and outs of that style. And chances are that his opponent doesn't train as rigorously or as obsessively as he does. Even when his opponents have decades of experience over him, they still fall to his sheer concentration and ability to pinpoint weakness’s in their offense and defense. Batman demonstrates this when he fight Ra's Al Ghul and his father Sensei.

Was that a yes?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Was the color commentary really necessary Jinzin?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Was that a yes?

Yes, unless his opponent have some kind of physical advantage that's far too grate for him to handle. And even then he is able to at least hold his own and keep himself from being killed.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
It's not a lie. Do you truly believe that BP pushes himself as hard as Batman?

So this is the base for your argument now? Batman will push himself to the win? Why don't you just say "Batman will find a way".

And honestly, do you think T'challa would not want to win either? I'm not saying batman doesn't push himself harder, But T'challa once fought Erik Killmonger for almost 12 straight hours for the right to rule wakanda.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't think anyone pushes themselves as hard as Batman

Ben grim>>>Batman

Originally posted by Starscream M
not necessarily, but knowing more styles means you can attack your opponent with more variety and they'll have less ability to defend

Also knowing a unique style means your opponent will never be able to predict nor defend against any attack because they have never seen it nor fight against it.

Batmas styles are great because they are many but he is still trapped in the rhythm of whatever form of fighting he is using at any given time. And although BP doesn't know 127 different styles he knows all the Major ones and an vast array of minor ones and even some Ninjistu hypnosis (as stated by Christopher priest). So BP's knowledge of traditional combat is not lacking (he has been training since he could walk, and remember, wakanda is a Warrior nation).

Again many styles is great to have but in the end its how you use what you know.

Panther took what he knew and turned it into his own unique style that accommodated his superior agility and speed.

Originally posted by Apolloknight

Ben grim>>>Batman

gtfo

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Mastering 127 martial arts styles and all of their secrets is part of it. The other part is willpower and his drive to push himself to his limits. No matter how difficult the challenge is. Chances are that if his opponent only knows or mastered one style, Batman already knows the ins and outs of that style. And chances are that his opponent doesn't train as rigorously or as obsessively as he does. Even when his opponents have decades of experience over him, they still fall to his sheer concentration and ability to pinpoint weakness’s in their offense and defense. Batman demonstrates this when he fight Ra's Al Ghul and his father Sensei.

Too bad BP is more obsessive about fighting then Bruce.

You know, king of a spartan like warrior nation who must continually prove himself against wakandas best warriors to remain king and all.