GL Hal Jordan vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
i don't think speedblitzing is ever a fair argument (unless the character is an evil bastard like majestic), but i got to wonder if the automatic shield can "go up" faster than multiples of lightspeed...

and i still firmly believe that a full-powered power cosmic blast from surfer would break hal's shield and still have enough juice left over to break hal himself.

And about SS being punched.

Well it's a comic if SS never got hit it will be boring.

Gladiator can react at 100X speed of light / SS was fighting him head on.

Gladiator can move at that speed, yet the hulk managed to hit him.

Flash also got hit by human etc. These things happen in comic.

Also Superman got hit by hulk/Batman etc.

But the fact is Hal needs will power (you can't deny that, all your scans has him saying had to use all my will power(anything that is good at least)

So if he chooses to do any one of the things you posted he can only do that one.

While SS isn't restricted

He can use light speed it’s nothing to him, Cosmic blast that can level cites etc without using much energy.

Can go beyond Light speed (it’s nothing to him (hal need all his will power)

And Gal shield will hold up to cosmic blasts that can level cites? not if he is using all his will power just to keep up with surfer (moving beyond light speed).

Get the picture.

And it's Bloodlust mood SS has speed blitz before.

And no SS doesn’t kill, and is never wants to hurt anyone that’s why he gets hit all the time.

Originally posted by kgkg
But guess what. You see the part "Every once of my Will power"

SS goes at beyond light speed all the time (while in space with no effort or energy wasted) he can go beyond light speed no problem)

- Hal needs all his will power to do something like that and is restricted to human reaction.

-Hal can absorb the power Cosmic? LMAO people show me Hal absorbing someone? Ohh boy this is funny

-Power Cosmic is energy? LOL (than I guess any Gl can beat Galactus , Thanos , Tyrant etc also LMAO)

- Hal will freeze SS(did you read the scans) (he needed all his will power) LMAO do you know how fast SS is he will never work him by the time is his trying( he will be defenseless to an attack)

-SS can go beyond light speed a can react that fast.

- Hal can go beyond light speed (only if he uses all his will power, but is still restricted to human reaction time, or close to it(since he crashed)

-SS can speedblitz (Flash) this is a forum (SS won’t be like a Sissy talking to hal ) He will use everything his got.

Originally posted by kgkg
Flash you are thinking this fight will be like all other Surfer fights

Where he is talking, then get's hit few times, then beat his enemy.

This is Bloodlust mood.

and no Hal can't Freeze SS , because he need will power (time).

SS also has cosmic awareness if Hal tries that it will only result in Hal getting knocked out.

Flash read the scans that jrodslam posted most were (I must use all my will power), (damn even all my will power was almost not enough) shit like that.

And ya SS will be sitting there saying: “hey I will wait for you take all you time and and will power hal) lol

This is bloodlust SS wants a kill (not like his sissy way).

The only reason why you think Surfer would win is because of speed blitzing. It won't kill Hal and even if it's a threat, Hal's ring protects him.

Another reason why Surfer would 'win' is because he can absorb Oa energy. Prove it. Surfer wasn't didn't absorb the energy by force and he was being drowned from a pool of it yet he still didn't absorb.

Last reason why you think Surfer would win: cosmic blasts. Hal has converted energy blasts into confetti before, he can do it to Surfer's blasts. Besides, Hal has survived from a 300 megaton detonation.

And for a last resort, you start talking about bloodlust. Talk about out of character.

Looks like Surfer isn't all hyped up as you say he is.

You have yet to prove us wrong.

Bloodlust

"It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels." - Tron

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308157.html

Originally posted by kgkg
He can use light speed it’s nothing to him, Cosmic blast that can level cites etc without using much energy.

Can go beyond Light speed (it’s nothing to him (hal need all his will power)[quote]Hal has followed a ship traveling faster than light before and took some members of the JLA with him.

[quote]And Gal shield will hold up to cosmic blasts that can level cites? not if he is using all his will power just to keep up with surfer (moving beyond light speed).

And it's Bloodlust mood SS has speed blitz before.

And no SS doesn’t kill, and is never wants to hurt anyone that’s why he gets hit all the time.

Tron is a little off with the Flash comment, though. Light only travels 0.0003 centimeters in a picosecond. Flash couldn't even think about moving in that length of time.

I never said SS CANT react at light speeds. I said that he doesnt ALWAYS react at lightspeeds. Read what I wrote before posting.

I never said that Surfer CANT read minds. But GL's cant have their minds read if they dont want.

If all else fails, trap Hal in the board? Lol. If all else fails, Hal could trap Surfer in the ring. Null and Void.

JWang, you said "The power cosmic was granted to Silver Surfer by galactus, it allows him to power himself through absorption of all sorts of energy and he can redirect that anyway he sees fit."

Gl's power was granted by that of the Guardians of the universe. GL's dont need to absorb anything to power themselves up. Willpower powers themselves up. The more they will, the more powerfull they become. Gl's can re-direct energies as they see fit as well.

SS being more versatile in what ways? Gl's and SS's abilities are 1 in the same.

Cosmic Cube, Doomsday shattered Hal's shield?
Im not talking construct shield either. Im talking forcefield shield.

"A power cosmic blast that wasn't even fully charged destroyed a planet."

A regular Gl blast also destroyed a planet.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Bloodlust

"It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels." - Tron

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308157.html

Originally posted by The Flash
LMAO. Hal's ring automatically protected him from a 300 megaton detonation. Hal didn't even put will into it yet.

[b]Surfer would be trying to stop the fight, so he won't be attack Hal at light speed at all. LMAO. A city destroying blast.

[b] As a last ditch effort, you talk about bloodlust mode. If a rookie Hal had the will to go up against Parallax, then Surfer is nothing to him.

You're wrong. Surfer will be attacking him, trying to defeat him as quickly as possible, which is pretty damn quick. Surfer doesn't kill his opponents. That is out of character. Speedblitzing isn't out of character; I've given you an instance. Surfer won't kill Hal, but he will defeat him.

Originally posted by The Flash
I've read the rules thank you. All I can say is you're a hypocrite. You talk about fighting in the character's full ability and yet you actually give Hulk some chance against Superman. WTF! Oh yeah, that rule says "still within the character's personality."

I've never said such a thing. I have said countless times that Superman's speed and flight is a distinct advantage when fighting Hulk. Don't put words in my mouth.

Originally posted by The Flash
LMAO. Hal's ring automatically protected him from a 300 megaton detonation. Hal didn't even put will into it yet.

[b]Surfer would be trying to stop the fight, so he won't be attack Hal at light speed at all. LMAO. A city destroying blast.

[b] As a last ditch effort, you talk about bloodlust mode. If a rookie Hal had the will to go up against Parallax, then Surfer is nothing to him.

To freezing people hal has to hit him with his ring's ray(had extreme will).

SS is faster that light. Guess that won't work 🙁

And while he using all his energy doing that SS comes from behind and speed blitz him with his his board

jrodslam can you post the next page of GL freezing people.

What issue/name is that

Originally posted by The Flash
I've read the rules thank you. All I can say is you're a hypocrite. You talk about fighting in the character's full ability and yet you actually give Hulk some chance against Superman. WTF! Oh yeah, that rule says "still within the character's personality."

The rules also say "each contestant will fight to his/her best ability." That means that they won't hold back.

Originally posted by kgkg
To freezing people hal has to hit him with his ring's ray(had extreme will).

SS is faster that light. Guess that won't work 🙁

And while he using all his energy doing that SS comes from behind and speed blitz him with his his board

Next we'll hear that the ring's ray is faster than light.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Silver Surfer can react and move in less than a nanosecond. Light only travels 30 centimeters in a nanosecond.

Yes, Surfer can read minds.

If Surfer can time travel, I doubt stopping time would affect him. Besides, you guys haven't proven that Hal can even affect anything when he stops time.

If all else fails, trap Hal in the board. Surfer wins.

Originally posted by kgkg
Well it's a comic if SS never got hit it will be boring.

Gladiator can react at 100X speed of light / SS was fighting him head on.

Gladiator can move at that speed, yet the hulk managed to hit him.

Flash also got hit by human etc. These things happen in comic.

Also Superman got hit by hulk/Batman etc.

And Gal shield will hold up to cosmic blasts that can level cites? not if he is using all his will power just to keep up with surfer (moving beyond light speed).

If youre saying all that, why even bother saying Hal cant react at lightspeeds, when Surfer doesnt always do it. Hals ring acts at light speeds.

youre the one who brought up speed blitzingsaying that Hal wouldnt be able to react. The ring would react for him.

Gl's and their ring have a connection at allows them to precieve things at superspeeds, and if its too fast and too deadly, the ring automatically acts. The ring and the wearer are 1 in the same. Its like a symbiote.

Originally posted by The Flash
Prove that Surfer can react in less than a nanosecond.

[b]Just like how Surfer can control time, right? Prove it.

[b]The only reason why Surfer can go back in time is because of his speed.

[b]Trap Surfer in the ring.

Originally posted by The Flash
Prove that Surfer can react in less than a nanosecond.

[b]Just like how Surfer can control time, right? Prove it.

[b]The only reason why Surfer can go back in time is because of his speed.

[b]Trap Surfer in the ring.

Hal has never trapped anyone in his ring in the past.

Here comes some good old fashioned proof. 🙂

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Speedblitzing isn't out of character.

The rules also say "each contestant will fight to his/her best ability." That means that they won't hold back.

Post a scan showing Surfer speed blizting in a beginning of a fight otherwise it's out of character.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Next we'll hear that the ring's ray is faster than light.

The rings ray Is faster than light.