GL Hal Jordan vs Silver Surfer

Started by Molecule man81 pages

sure he can u r overrating SS too much

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I missed the part where he kills the entire Corps and the Guardians...

He takes out all the powerfull members first. Everyone who got in his way after that, suffered the same frate.

Ganthet was the only Guardian left.

Read Rebirth sometime.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer can do the same. He defies Quantification.

Hal can't react fast enough to fight Surfer.

I'm going to bed.

WHAT! 😱 Surfer defies quantification?

PLEASE prove that. im begging you.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I have proven that Hulk's anger is limitless. It's not an assumption.

Hal's will is not limitless. If it were limitless, his power would never fail him, his constructs would never be destroyed, and he would be omnipotent. If you think otherwise, show some proof.

You think Hal's more powerful than Galactus. This forum's going down the tubes.

You are hilarious...

Please find where I said Hal is more powerful that Galactus... looks like somebody is clutching at straws and trying to twist words... re-read my field theory...
You are the one claiming if Galactus can do it, so can surfer.

Why don't you show me proof of unlimited anger for Hulk? If he can get that angry..why couldnt he punch out thanos with the infinity gauntlet? Sure that is infinite anger, is it not? 😆

More proof of Hal superspeed reflexes. Superman's heat vision is light speed. Hal reacts fast enough to me.

Notice how the shield construct doesnt break either.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/73655e8c.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/45b338c3.jpg

Originally posted by jrodslam
More proof of Hal superspeed reflexes. Superman's heat vision is light speed. Hal reacts fast enough to me.

Notice how the shield construct doesnt break either.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/73655e8c.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/45b338c3.jpg

That proves nothing (you call that reaction?).

I have seen human dodge laser in comic (because who know when it was fired, same way people dodge bullets).

Hal to go at light speed or anything remotely beyond needs all his will power (you prove that you self).

Read you own scan anything he does he says had to use very once of my will power.

Which mean if he wants to keep up with the Surfer will be using all his will power for that, what does that leave hal if his is using all just to keep up with the surfer?.

Freeze time? What part of Surfer moves and think beyond light speed did you not get?

And where does it say Hal can think in Nano second if that was the case he wouldn’t have crashed. Hal can’t react that fast and you know it.

Surfer can think / Move beyond light speed (been shown)

Hal can move beyond light (only when using extreme/ all his will power) that end the fight right there. (You have yet to show me Hal going beyond light speed other than traveling vast distance, because so far it seems he can't even control when himself when light speed. (Again shows in you scan; surfer was going in circles beyond light speed, which shows he can control his movement beyond light speed))

Hal can’t keep up with the surfer , and Surfer's reaction.

Originally posted by kgkg
That proves nothing (you call that reaction?).

Which mean if he wants to keep up with the Surfer will be using all his will power for that, what does that leave hal if his is using all just to keep up with the surfer?.

Freeze time? What part of Surfer moves and think beyond light speed did you not get?

And where does it say Hal can think in Nano second if that was the case he wouldn’t have crashed. Hal can’t react that fast and you know it.

Hal can’t keep up with the surfer , and Surfer's reaction.

Oh but it proves everything.

The scan i showed you with him movnig at faster than light speeds, but not being able to react to stop in time, was Hals FIRST time ever moving that fast.

Did you not fall the first tmie you rode a 2-wheel bike? Give the guy a break. All GL's can move at beyond light speeds.

You obviously know nothing of what youre talking about.

Hal wont need all his will power just to keep up with Surfer. Where do you get that theory from?

Hal kept up with a ship that was moving faster that light speed. He didnt use all his will power to do that. His will powr is unlimited.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/J_L_of_A_211-10.jpg

Obviously you cant read. If you could youd know that his though AND reaction was all in a nanosecond. You cant seem to comprehend what you read. You just see letters.

Superman shot the heat vision which moves at light speed. Hal reacted and met it with a blast of his own. Thats called fast relexes buddy. You see people dodge lasers in comics? How are they able to do that? Its called fast reflexes.

You have yet to show any of SS moves/attacks going at beyond light speeds. It wont matter though because all
GL attack move at light speeds. Pick up a GL book or 2.

Everyone who moves at beyond light speed gets hit sometimes. Please stop brining up Hal cant react, because when he needed to react at faster than light speeds, hes done so.

He can keep up with anyone in the universe. If not why be a GL? Read a GL book man.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Oh but it proves everything.

The scan i showed you with him movnig at faster than light speeds, but not being able to react to stop in time, was Hals FIRST time ever moving that fast.

Did you not fall the first tmie you rode a 2-wheel bike? Give the guy a break. All GL's can move at beyond light speeds.

You obviously know nothing of what youre talking about.

Hal wont need all his will power just to keep up with Surfer. Where do you get that theory from?

Hal kept up with a ship that was moving faster that light speed. He didnt use all his will power to do that. His will powr is unlimited.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/J_L_of_A_211-10.jpg

Obviously you cant read. If you could youd know that his though AND reaction was all in a nanosecond. You cant seem to comprehend what you read. You just see letters.

Superman shot the heat vision which moves at light speed. Hal reacted and met it with a blast of his own. Thats called fast relexes buddy. You see people dodge lasers in comics? How are they able to do that? Its called fast reflexes.

You have yet to show any of SS moves/attacks going at beyond light speeds. It wont matter though because all
GL attack move at light speeds. Pick up a GL book or 2.

Everyone who moves at beyond light speed gets hit sometimes. Please stop brining up Hal cant react, because when he needed to react at faster than light speeds, hes done so.

He can keep up with anyone in the universe. If not why be a GL? Read a GL book man.


lol read your own scans please

-Scan where a planet blows up (not even the right one)
“So I concentrated ALL the will power I could muster”

Towing the city
– “It’ll take ALL the will power I can muster… I couldn’t hold it much LONGER”

When Hal is going beyond light speed
- “There doesn’t seem to be any limit to how fast I can go, by backing my ring with EVERY OUNCE OF MY WILL POWER”
- “Hal BECOMES aware of the solid obstacle before him” if he could have reacted anywhere near light speed he would have been aware of it. (if you can find an example of him going at light speed while dodging or shows he can indeed to stuff when he is beyond light speed)

- That was his first time? then why don’t you show him doing that (since it was his first time there must have been many times)

The fact is Gl can’t react at light speed, or move at light speed without extreme will power. “By backing my ring with EVERY OUNCE OF MY WILL POWER”
From your own scan.

You proved that yourself.

And how is Hal going to keep up with SS when SS is moving faster than light (When hal has to use all his Will power to do so? And still you haven’t shown me, him being able to dodge, or move beyond light speed in a fight (since the only time you showed us he couldn’t even see something in front of him)

Hal can’t react beyond light speed/ or think at light speed (this is very clear), So SS has an extreme advantage.

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Originally posted by kgkg
lol read your own scans please

-Scan where a planet blows up (not even the right one)
“So I concentrated ALL the will power I could muster”

Towing the city
– “It’ll take ALL the will power I can muster… I couldn’t hold it much LONGER”

When Hal is going beyond light speed
- “There doesn’t seem to be any limit to how fast I can go, by backing my ring with EVERY OUNCE OF MY WILL POWER”
- “Hal BECOMES aware of the solid obstacle before him” if he could have reacted anywhere near light speed he would have been aware of it. (if you can find an example of him going at light speed while dodging or shows he can indeed to stuff when he is beyond light speed)

- That was his first time? then why don’t you show him doing that (since it was his first time there must have been many times)

The fact is Gl can’t react at light speed, or move at light speed without extreme will power. “By backing my ring with EVERY OUNCE OF MY WILL POWER”
From your own scan.

You proved that yourself.

And how is Hal going to keep up with SS when SS is moving faster than light (When hal has to use all his Will power to do so? And still you haven’t shown me, him being able to dodge, or move beyond light speed in a fight (since the only time you showed us he couldn’t even see something in front of him)

Hal can’t react beyond light speed/ or think at light speed (this is very clear), So SS has an extreme advantage.

All the will power he could muster. GL's always say that, but its never really all their willpower. Its something called suspence in comics, to make it seem like last resort.

Hal towed the city on his back. If he had to hold it longer, he would have.

Once again thats the FIRST time Hal EVER went that fast. Example of him flying while dodging at faster than light speeds?
Read GL:Rebirth #5 Basttle between him and Sinestro. Mind you, he just got the ring back.

When i put up the scan of him following the ship at faster than light speeds, did he say "With al the willpower I could muster."? No.

Everything a GL does is based off willpower. The greater the feat, the more will power. You know nothing about GL's.

In a fight he's met Supermans heat-vision head on. Prof of lightspeed reaction.

When he followed the ship in faster than light speeds. It WASNT all the will he could muster. Thats the same way hed keep up with Surfer.

When he fought the GL's, it was at lightspeeds. Did he need to muster all his willpower to keep up? No. Read a book. Keeping up with Surfer would be no problem

SS has no speed advantage. All GL's can fight at light speeds.

You have yet to show Surfer fighting at light speeds. Who has he fought at lightspeeds or faster?

Like I said Read Rebirth #5. Matter fact read a GL book man.

If you can READ. Read the powers and weapons section.
All GL's move at faster than lightspeeds and are also able to react the same.

http://www.dcuguide.com/profile.php?name=greenlantern2

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Then why did you show me those scans?(when it shows he had to use all of his will power to do so)

lol now you are saying you know more than your Scans?

Lol I have nothing more to say.

All Gl’s can fight at light speed, ya that’s why Kyle got his ass kicked by Wonder Man.

And that bio also says: "The Ring has the ability to shape a form of emerald energy."

"The rings can propel the Lantern through space at many times the speed of light" yes i have seen the scans, it took all his will power

Energy which SS absorbs (as food)

Hal or Gl's can't react faster than light / or think that fast

I have my answers am out no point continuing if you say the scans(your own scans) are wrong and your right.

And deny that SS can't absorb energy.

Am out

Originally posted by kgkg
Then why did you show me those scans?(when it shows he had to use all of his will power to do so)

lol now you are saying you know more than your Scans?

Lol I have nothing more to say.

All Gl’s can fight at light speed, ya that’s why Kyle got his ass kicked by Wonder Man.

And that bio also says: "The Ring has the ability to shape a form of emerald energy."

"The rings can propel the Lantern through space at many times the speed of light" yes i have seen the scans, it took all his will power

Energy which SS absorbs (as food)

Hal or Gl's can't react faster than light / or think that fast

I have my answers am out no point continuing if you say the scans(your own scans) are wrong and your right.

And deny that SS can't absorb energy.

Am out

First off, I showed you the scans because you said GL's cant move at light speeds or faster. That proved you knew nothing of what you were talking about , because I showed you the scans.

Then when you get proved wrong, you say "But he cant react that fast." I show you scans of him thinking and reacting in a fraction of a nanosecond. Once again you know nothing of a GL.

Surfer always fights at light speeds? No. He got k.o'd by Namorita. Lol. Who is stronger?

Where does any bio say that Surfer can absorb emerald energies?
Do you even know what emerald energies are?

SS cant absorb it. It had to be GIVEN. We've already established that. In battle SS aint absorbing sh**.

Hal can react faster than light or think that fast? Yet he reacted to Supermans heat-vision(light speed). And took out the whole GL Corps(who fight at +light speeds)

Read Rebirth #5. Get back to me.

Until you know about GL's say no more.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Green Lanterns are sooo powerful... But when Doomsday comes around, they all turn into shit.
Galactus' heralds are sooo powerful...but when Spider-Man comes, they all turn to shit.

Originally posted by jrodslam
First off, I showed you the scans because you said GL's cant move at light speeds or faster. That proved you knew nothing of what you were talking about , because I showed you the scans.

Then when you get proved wrong, you say "But he cant react that fast." I show you scans of him thinking and reacting in a fraction of a nanosecond. Once again you know nothing of a GL.

Surfer always fights at light speeds? No. He got k.o'd by Namorita. Lol. Who is stronger?

Where does any bio say that Surfer can absorb emerald energies?
Do you even know what emerald energies are?

SS cant absorb it. It had to be GIVEN. We've already established that. In battle SS aint absorbing sh**.

Hal can react faster than light or think that fast? Yet he reacted to Supermans heat-vision(light speed). And took out the whole GL Corps(who fight at +light speeds)


You posted those images than you want to just take the parts you like.

And ignore "Had to use all my WILL POWER" lol ok

Ouch.

GL's always say "I had to use all my wilpower"

They never do though. And that has nothing to do with the actual power. Willpower just allows it to be done.

Hal has never failed to do sometihing whether it took all willpower or not.

Hal > Spider-Man > Firelord = Silver Surfer.

Hal wins.