Thanos vs Darkseid(the final time before final crisis)

Started by starlock20 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just admitted it had nothing to do with strength. Its funny how irrational that you are being. How did Superman stop his hammer then?

Tell me. 😂

Quanchi i will try and explain...

Superman was in one of the hardest fights he has ever been in(so supes says) he had enough of thor and caught his hammer and we know the rest.......

Thor gave superman the hammer to use in a desperate hour...so supes uses it and...well we know the rest....

Odins enchantment is greater than supes strength, odins enchantment is greater than thor swinging his hammer at supes

Odins enchantment had nothing to do with superman catching thors blow
Superman caught the blow using strength and skill...done

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
This shows off your tremendous debating skills. Grow up man. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by starlock
Quanchi i will try and explain...

Superman was in one of the hardest fights he has ever been in(so supes says) he had enough of thor and caught his hammer and we know the rest.......

Thor gave superman the hammer to use in a desperate hour...so supes uses it and...well we know the rest....

Odins enchantment is greater than supes strength, odins enchantment is greater than thor swinging his hammer at supes

Odins enchantment had nothing to do with superman catching thors blow
Superman caught the blow using strength and skill...done

He can catch his hammer with his strength but he cant pick it up? It doesnt add up.

Really if he can catch the hammer on strength and skill like you say he should have no problems picking it up with his strength.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

This is a great post. thumbsup

Originally posted by fangirl101
This is a great post. thumbsup
Its what posters do when they cannot counter. They try to change the subject and the focus and attempt to get personal. Its one of the worst debating tactics out there.

he is partly right, superman has the strength to catch it/swat it away BUT......after the time of need, if he were to catch it again the enchantment would have kicked in and bonded itself with the whole planet as it did in your scan with superman still holding on to it.

the enchantment prevents others from wielding mjolnir, not blocking it or catching it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can catch his hammer with his strength but he cant pick it up? It doesnt add up.

Really if he can catch the hammer on strength and skill like you say he should have no problems picking it up with his strength.

Quanchi the enchantments on the hammer by odin are more powerfull than supes strength,thats why he cant lift it, while thor is weilding it its a weapon that is under thors guidence

Cmon guys i think quanchi actually wants to be here with us, and he really wants to learn.i think he should be treated better.at least for a time,some people here can be hard and its not easy....i know

Originally posted by starlock
Cmon guys i think quanchi actually wants to be here with us, and he really wants to learn.i think he should be treated better.at least for a time,some people here can be hard and its not easy....i know
I have him on block. It's for my own sanity. lest I go and bang my head against a brick wall.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I have him on block. It's for my own sanity. lest I go and bang my head against a brick wall.

I did also, but i have changed my mind, i remember a poster a while back who i also gave a shot to and it seemed to me... it worked out ok 😉

Originally posted by starlock
I did also, but i have changed my mind, i remember a poster a while back who i also gave a shot to and it seemed to me... it worked out ok 😉

for my own good, i'll have to keep it blocked. no need in breaking forum rules and going off on someone.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he is partly right, superman has the strength to catch it/swat it away BUT......after the time of need, if he were to catch it again the enchantment would have kicked in and bonded itself with the whole planet as it did in your scan with superman still holding on to it.

the enchantment prevents others from wielding mjolnir, not blocking it or catching it.

I see now. Thanks for the pms.

Originally posted by starlock
Quanchi the enchantments on the hammer by odin are more powerfull than supes strength,thats why he cant lift it, while thor is weilding it its a weapon that is under thors guidence
Understood. I can admit when I am wrong.

Quanchi112, no biggie as far as I'm concerned. Even in the non-canon context of JLA/Avengers, Superman catching a Mjolnir swing with his bare hand is utter garbage. Mjolnir is magic and such an attempt would have broken Superman's hand as easily as a simple swipe of a magical blade pierces Superman's skin. Superman has been utterly dazed by a simple Captain Marvel punch. Even considering that somehow Mjolnir and Superman's hand's interaction was reduced to the level where neither had an advantage over the other, let me just say, if anybody ever tried to catch an object of that size swinging down on their hand... ouch.

Unfortunately, Busiek decided that blunt magical objects are different from sharp magical objects. Utter nonsense. But yeah, chalk it up to editorial mandate and PIS rather then trying to justify it logically through some theory that requires a bit of convolution. According to JLA/Avengers, people who are vulnerable to magic, may still counter blunt physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability... while they cannot counter sharp physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability.

Yeah. It doesnt' make sense to me either. Which is why I choose to banish JLA/Avengers from my mind in debating vs threads. The ideas behind it's canon nature are too hotly debated for it to be ever relied on anyway.

P.S. Fangirl101. Let's be honest, here. I'm pretty sure Quanchi112 is unabashedly Marvel-biased. But he makes his points and he doesn't spam or bash when debating. Convoluted theories and narrow points of view are pretty regular here. As far as I'm concerned, let everyone have their say and have the onlookers decide for themselves. The course of your debates with each other and other people are enjoyable to read, honestly. Peace.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Quanchi112, no biggie as far as I'm concerned. Even in the non-canon context of JLA/Avengers, Superman catching a Mjolnir swing with his bare hand is utter garbage. Mjolnir is magic and such an attempt would have broken Superman's hand as easily as a simple swipe of a magical blade pierces Superman's skin. Superman has been utterly dazed by a simple Captain Marvel punch. Even considering that somehow Mjolnir and Superman's hand's interaction was reduced to the level where neither had an advantage over the other, let me just say, if anybody ever tried to catch an object of that size swinging down on their hand... ouch.

Unfortunately, Busiek decided that blunt magical objects are different from sharp magical objects. Utter nonsense. But yeah, chalk it up to editorial mandate and PIS rather then trying to justify it logically through some theory that requires a bit of convolution. According to JLA/Avengers, people who are vulnerable to magic, may still counter blunt physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability... while they cannot counter sharp physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability.

Yeah. It doesnt' make sense to me either. Which is why I choose to banish JLA/Avengers from my mind in debating vs threads. The ideas behind it's canon nature are too hotly debated for it to be ever relied on anyway.

P.S. Fangirl101. Let's be honest, here. I'm pretty sure Quanchi112 is unabashedly Marvel-biased. But he makes his points and he doesn't spam or bash when debating. Convoluted theories and narrow points of view are pretty regular here. As far as I'm concerned, let everyone have their say and have the onlookers decide for themselves. The course of your debates with each other and other people are enjoyable to read, honestly. Peace.

I totally agree. But he just knows no bounds when it comes to DC characters. he puts them down, leaves out important facts and skews situations. so for my own good I just don't respond or read his stuff any more.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I totally agree. But he just knows no bounds when it comes to DC characters. he puts them down, leaves out important facts and skews situations. so for my own good I just don't respond or read his stuff any more.
Fair enough, you have a right to not be bothered with certain posters. Still... it's fun and actually informative to see you guys argue. Quanchi112 might be Marvel-biased, but you have to admit, you yourself are the first in line to jump to a DC character's defense in threads. Personally, I enjoy reading the arguments and rebuttals from both of those positions.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Quanchi112, no biggie as far as I'm concerned. Even in the non-canon context of JLA/Avengers, Superman catching a Mjolnir swing with his bare hand is utter garbage. Mjolnir is magic and such an attempt would have broken Superman's hand as easily as a simple swipe of a magical blade pierces Superman's skin. Superman has been utterly dazed by a simple Captain Marvel punch. Even considering that somehow Mjolnir and Superman's hand's interaction was reduced to the level where neither had an advantage over the other, let me just say, if anybody ever tried to catch an object of that size swinging down on their hand... ouch.

Unfortunately, Busiek decided that blunt magical objects are different from sharp magical objects. Utter nonsense. But yeah, chalk it up to editorial mandate and PIS rather then trying to justify it logically through some theory that requires a bit of convolution. According to JLA/Avengers, people who are vulnerable to magic, may still counter blunt physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability... while they cannot counter sharp physical magic force trauma with pure strength and durability.

Yeah. It doesnt' make sense to me either. Which is why I choose to banish JLA/Avengers from my mind in debating vs threads. The ideas behind it's canon nature are too hotly debated for it to be ever relied on anyway.

P.S. Fangirl101. Let's be honest, here. I'm pretty sure Quanchi112 is unabashedly Marvel-biased. But he makes his points and he doesn't spam or bash when debating. Convoluted theories and narrow points of view are pretty regular here. As far as I'm concerned, let everyone have their say and have the onlookers decide for themselves. The course of your debates with each other and other people are enjoyable to read, honestly. Peace.

Thanks it is still hard for me to grasp. The way he caught that hammer was utter crap. But there is lots of crap in comics for sure. I mean the guy has a weakness to magic like you said but this didnt seem to bother him a bit. Inconsistency is the only consistency it seems sometimes in comics.

I am not marvel biased. I give dc characters wins all the time. But thanks for noticing that I dont bash or spam. When I debate I do go for the jugular and attack a characters low showings. But why wouldnt I? Most on here take it personally and lose their cool. Thats my style of debating though.

idk i think thanos looks alot like darkseid so maybe thanos would think its his reflection or clone and they would.t hurt each other but team up ^^

Darkseid the final time before FC would be in Countdown against Jimmy, would it not? If that's the case, DS wins.

Prior to DOTNG, it's my opinion that Thanos nearly stomps him.