The ACLU

What are your opinions on this Strong organisation? There are people that view it as against a harsh ultraconservative or moral institution. There are others that see it as a great safe guard against the stripping away of the United States Constitution.

The what?

The American Civil Liberties Union. It is one of the biggest lobby groups in the US.

Mixed feelings, they have gone too far on some issues, imo.

Supporting NAMBLA
Restricting Megan's Law
Supporting The Westboro Baptist Church
The internet SPAM issue.

There are other instances where I disagreed, they escape me though.

Could you remark on those topics that dissatisfy you. Please explain why their views on those topics are in disagreement with your views.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Could you remark on those topics that dissatisfy you. Please explain why their views on those topics are in disagreement with your views.

NAMBLA = Man and Boy love
Megan's Law = Tracking sexual offenders
Westboro = Assclowns
SPAM = I hate spam.

NAMBLA, even though it wasn't about defending NAMBLA's man-boy relationship stance though. I'm just biased against them and therefore hate all association.

Megan's Law. I feel that sexual predators should be tracked and kept an eye on. Even ones that committed their crime prior to the law.

Westboro, I don't agree that they have the right to picket and disrupt a private funeral service. They can yell "God hates ****" on the corner all they like though.

SPAM, is an invasion of privacy, I don't think any company or person should have the right to upload advertisements, propaganda or programs into my comp.

I've had to interview them for the news on several occasions regarding some strange issues. For one, the ACLU supports people handing out female escort pamphlets on the Las Vegas strip since it's public property and it's a form of freedom of expression or something like that. Also, they told me that the big casino's cannot kick me off the sidewalk in front of their property if I'm shooting video. Alot of the casino's claim that they actually own the sidewalk in front of their buildings, but according to the ACLU, they infact do not. The ACLU told me that if I ever get kicked off a sidewalk for shooting video of a casino, then I should call them and file a lawsuit that I would totally win. Well, I have yet to ever be kicked off a sidewalk. A guy tried to indimidate me once and I basically ignored him and kept shooting. He even threatened to call the police and I just pointed my video camera at him and asked, "You want me to call them for you? I got the number programmed in my phone." I then explained to him I could shoot anything I wanted from a sidewalk and he can't do anything about it, and then he left me alone.

Originally posted by Robtard
NAMBLA = Man and Boy love
Megan's Law = Tracking sexual offenders
Westboro = Assclowns
SPAM = I hate spam.

NAMBLA, even though it wasn't about defending NAMBLA's man-boy relationship stance though. I'm just biased against them and therefore hate all association.

Megan's Law. I feel that sexual predators should be tracked and kept an eye on. Even ones that committed their crime prior to the law.

Westboro, I don't agree that they have the right to picket and disrupt a private funeral service. They can yell "God hates ****" on the corner all they like though.

SPAM, is an invasion of privacy, I don't think any company or person should have the right to upload advertisements, propaganda or programs into my comp.

1. NAMBLA. I am not in disagreement there. But this organisation may feel the nuance of other more liberal countries and cultures that this is a natural part of their culture. It is freedom in that culture or way of life as in a global whole.

2. I also feel that way, but with prejudice. If it was a one time deal or if a person had over come that tendency, it would be not in his rights to be labeled for life since we have a right to privacy. If however this is something that is concurrent, then yes it should be know to everyone. I believe that society should be aware of such pretiores.

3. That is their rights just as it is our rights to picket views against our thinking. A great and wonderful example would be one that Judges in the Supreme Court not serve a life tern.

4. I hate span, but it is another right. It my be progressive and annoying, but then we have the right to make exceptions to it.

The ACLU sounds pretty awesome

Originally posted by Deja~vu

3. That is their rights just as it is our rights to picket views against our thinking. A great and wonderful example would be one that Judges in the Supreme Court not serve a life tern.

4. I hate span, but it is another right. It my be progressive and annoying, but then we have the right to make exceptions to it.

Since there is little conflict in 1 & 2, I'll bypass those.

Can I come into yor house and yell "God hates women" freely? Remember, funerals are private, not public.

Again, my computer is personally owned by me. Would you mind if I went into your car and set it so your stereo played advertisements of my choosing, over and over?

What exactly is the view of the ACLU on spam?

Also, as far as I understand the issue, westboro doesn't crash the funerals themselves, they protest nearby, which, as much as they are indeed assclowns, is and should be a right.

THe ACLU is a ridiculous organization. They were founded by a man who was a devout Marxist and hoped to see Communism take root in America, and now all they do is defend the lowest of the low. Having sex with the plastic donkey at a nativity seen isn't freedom of speech, its public indecency and lewd conduct.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
THe ACLU is a ridiculous organization. They were founded by a man who was a devout Marxist and hoped to see Communism take root in America, and now all they do is defend the lowest of the low. Having sex with the plastic donkey at a nativity seen isn't freedom of speech, its public indecency and lewd conduct.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The ACLU sounds pretty awesome

As many understand in the US there are such conservatives appointed to Justices. These Justices are not elected, but are life. They are the ones that can supersede the laws and if they are conservative they will take the rights away from the people...putting them in the police and government.

This is why the ACLU had come together. It was to protect to United States Constitution as felt by the Colonies moving from an oppressed environment as Europe.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What exactly is the view of the ACLU on spam?

That internet SPAM should be guarded as free-speech and anti-spam legislation is in direct violation of free-speech. Which is bullshit, since SPAM is an invasion of privacy.

Originally posted by Robtard
That internet SPAM should be guarded as free-speech and anti-spam legislation is in direct violation of free-speech. Which is bullshit, since SPAM is an invasion of privacy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Since there is little conflict in 1 & 2, I'll bypass those.

Can I come into yor house and yell "God hates women" freely? Remember, funerals are private, not public.

Again, my computer is personally owned by me. Would you mind if I went into your car and set it so your stereo played advertisements of my choosing, over and over?

I'm a fan. Say what you will on a issue-by-issue basis, but they protect freedoms better than any other group that exists in our country. And that's a very good thing.

And to be honest, with how polarized our country is, groups like the ACLU are the only institutions protecting our country from becoming a theocracy imo.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I guess they have a point in a way. They aren't sending it to your computer afterall. They send it to a more or less public email address kinda like how you get advertising shit in your mail. Sure annoying, but I don't know if it should be illegal.

Same thing could be argued for computer viruses then.