Odin vs Superman(sundipped)

Originally posted by Avlon
Excuses are like assh*les...everybody has one.

And a clean Handbook page in hand as well.

.well is supermans fight with darkseid rocked a star system being sundipped would amp his strength and speed considerably wouldn't it?

also is sundipped superman comparable to all-star superman?

Originally posted by Starscream M
how powerful is Odin really? he struggled to put down Thanos for crying out loud...and Thanos cannot move a planet.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Of course he wasn't, but I'm sure both of them were not referring to the hulk either when talking about "someone who lifts weights".

I know it was odin! Cause they had to entirely ignore and or misinterpret my point in order to combat it, thus making it not my point. Because that's the only way they can debate, by not reading properly.

Quanchi said that strength doesn't factor into a fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isnt a strength contest its a vs battle.

And then made the comparison, not mentioning the blackbelts awesome magical power:

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cant believe your serious. Just because you lift wieghts and bench more than a third degree black belt doesnt mean you are winning a fight against him. Now does it? So even though Superman is stronger than Mordru can he beat him also? Do you determine the winner based on physical feats all the time or just this time. I guess the Hulk is really a badass against anyone as well as his strength is limitless.

Oh look he even mentioned the hulk.

So I named someone who was faster than him and was more skilled in hand to hand. Thus setting up Hulk as the weight lifter and Wolverine as the black belt. Hulk is stronger, Wolverine is faster and more skilled.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So would you say wolveirne beats the hulk? How about collossus?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolvie loses to hulk.

Thus having that blackbelt (speed & skill) lose to the weightlifter (strength)

So the weightlifter wins only when it suits his point.

I think you misunderstood what he was saying but I bet quanchi can rebutt what you posted. I just dont want to put words in his mouth.

Because we know that there are ONLY three factors in a fight... Strength, speed, and skill.... No wait a second, that's totally false.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So was it collosus?

I know it was odin! Cause they had to entirely ignore and or misinterpret my point in order to combat it, thus making it not my point. Because that's the only way they can debate, by not reading properly.

Did you pass your reading comprehension? Someone who lifts weights is simply that. A normal person who lifts weights. It was an analogy to show you that strength does not necessarily equate to a win. Simply put, if you manage to equate a person who lifts weights to hulk, I can equate someone who does martial arts to Thanos. He's obviously referring to two normal people who are similar except for the fact that one does weights, and one is a blackbelt.

With all courtesy, from where I am, you're the one misunderstanding points. The fact that everyone else understands what was meant by the other two fellas showcases that. Which makes it extremely ironic that you slam others on their lack of comprehension. Tell me, do you call kettles "black" often?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Quanchi said that strength doesn't factor into a fight.

Exact quote?

Originally posted by Creshosk
And then made the comparison, not mentioning the blackbelts awesome magical power:

Says the person who equates a weightlifter with hulk and colossus.

Originally posted by Creshosk

So I named someone who was faster than him and was more skilled in hand to hand. Thus setting up Hulk as the weight lifter and Wolverine as the black belt. Hulk is stronger, Wolverine is faster and more skilled.

Do you know anything about the Hulk? I'm not sure you do, if you say Wolverine is faster than him. There's also that small thingamajig of hulk's healing factor, that is by far superior to Wolverine's. If you've ever been involved in a science experiment before, do remember what they say about controls and variables.

Originally posted by Creshosk
To which he goes against his reasoning from before:

Thus having that blackbelt (speed & skill) lose to the weightlifter (strength)

So the weightlifter wins only when it suits his point.

I think you're reading too much into the analogy and trying to impose it wholesale into this situation, which is obviously stupid and illogical.

The weightlifter only wins when it suits your point. The point that the rest of us were trying to make flew clear over your head.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Oh my god.
Thanos could barely stand up after the fight, he survived cause Death maked him immortal in the very sense of the word.
Odin wrecked Asgard in the fight, and wasn't even going all out, Sif and BRB asked to stop the no sense fight before Asgard became dust.Odin was enjoying the fight, but he could've ended it faster than it went.
While battling Seth of the Egyptian Pantheon, his blasts created shockwaves which traveled the multiverse.
Superman sundips?Odin drain him of all his solar energy.
Or uses the Runes magic to totally depower him.
Sundipping my ass.

Am I the only person not that impressed with Odin? His so called "galaxy busting" feat, is only described through narration which can easily be viewed as hyperbole. Imo it sounds like a metaphor of some sort, rather than a solid feat of power. And destroying dead planets and reigniting new suns, does not make him the most impressive thing since sliced bread. Even pc Superman had better feats than that

Originally posted by King Kandy
Because we know that there are ONLY three factors in a fight... Strength, speed, and skill.... No wait a second, that's totally false.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Did you pass your reading comprehension?[]/b]

Originally posted by Ouallada
[B]Someone who lifts weights is simply that. A normal person who lifts weights. It was an analogy to show you that strength does not necessarily equate to a win. Simply put, if you manage to equate a person who lifts weights to hulk, I can equate someone who does martial arts to Thanos.

Originally posted by Ouallada
He's obviously referring to two normal people who are similar except for the fact that one does weights, and one is a blackbelt.

Originally posted by Ouallada
With all courtesy, from where I am, you're the one misunderstanding points.

Originally posted by Ouallada
The fact that everyone else understands what was meant by the other two fellas showcases that.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Which makes it extremely ironic that you slam others on their lack of comprehension. Tell me, do you call kettles "black" often?

Originally posted by Ouallada
Exact quote?

Originally posted by Ouallada
Says the person who equates a weightlifter with hulk and colossus.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Do you know anything about the Hulk? I'm not sure you do,

Originally posted by Ouallada
if you say Wolverine is faster than him. There's also that small thingamajig of hulk's healing factor, that is by far superior to Wolverine's.

Originally posted by Ouallada
If you've ever been involved in a science experiment before, do remember what they say about controls and variables.

Originally posted by Ouallada
I think you're reading too much into the analogy and trying to impose it wholesale into this situation, which is obviously stupid and illogical.

Originally posted by Ouallada
The weightlifter only wins when it suits your point. The point that the rest of us were trying to make flew clear over your head.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Am I the only person not that impressed with Odin? His so called "galaxy busting" feat, is only described through narration which can easily be viewed as hyperbole

If its done to describe the effects said action is doing, its valid. I guess if going by that logic, how many of Superman feats would be disquilified?

Say goodbye to comic book staples now.

Too bad that without those feats he just doesnt measure up, when Odin still manages to ko with a single blast guys like Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah I did, obviously you did not.

I can certainly see that [/sarcasm]

Originally posted by Creshosk
Instead of following the analogy and using someone whom is obviously not as strong and is obviously more skilled at fighting.. hence thanos would be a false analogy and someone whom is weaker but more skilled would be a better comparison.. hence Wolveirne.

What's the problem? Thanos < Hulk in terms of physical strength when the latter is sufficiently riled up.

You still don't get it. Hulk is the faulty analogy, not Wolverine. Comparing a street-leveller to a low/mid herald is obviously fine with you, but me comparing a low/mid herald to a trans level is not? Once again, pot kettle black.

Originally posted by Creshosk
One who's stronger, he mentioned hulk. One who's a better martial artist. Wolveirne.
[QUOTE=10508263]Originally posted by Creshosk

You obviously missed the point on the analogy implicitly stating that they should be physically similar, EXCEPT for the strength and skill.

[QUOTE=10508263]Originally posted by Creshosk
Naturally. You think I'm arguing for superman and thus have to argue against points that are being made even if your arguments are illogical. Like saying that Thanos is weaker and a more skilled fighter than the Hulk.

I couldn't care less who you are arguing for. I saw something really stupid going on, and wanted to clean up.

The arguments are following you line of logic:

You: Hulk is only stronger than wolverine (ignoring all of hulk's other physical stats) and so it is a fair match.

Me: Thanos is not stronger than Hulk and so it is a fair match.

You: But that's stupid.

Me: Duh. That's your reasoning. You expected intelligence?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh ad populem. "Its the right opinion because its popular. Hence Wolverine beats lobo and Storm beats wonder woman.. hey, those were the popular votes so obviously since more people saw the fight going that way it was right for it to go that way.

Understanding something is not an opinion. It is cognitive perception. If a hundred people walk by and smell bullshit but you don't, chances are something is wrong with your nose.

Your inability to even use logical fallacies properly is amusing.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope. You do thought obviously.

Such wit.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I gave you it... And you talk about my reading comprehssion. Eh, Mr. pot?

I don't see it. I want a quote that explicitly states what you claimed, not what you spun.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So now you're saying that they're weaker than wolverine?

Do I need to spell everything out for you? The analogy was that a weightlifter would not necessarily beat a blackbelt. The person who equated weightlifters to hulk and blackbelts to wolverine was you.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Obviously I don't as I thought he was superstrogng... but I guess I was wrong.

He is strong, and fast, and heals pretty damn quick. So I guess you were a third right. Batting way above your average there.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Superior to regenerating from a skeleton?

Name something that Hulk hasn't done please. Anything wolverine regenerates from, hulk regenerates from as well, and almost definitely faster.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah. Wolveirne and hulk both have impressive healing factors. Hulk is stronger, wolverine is more skilled.

Has a better healing factor and is exponentially faster. That isn't enough to make it unfair? Tell you what. Here is my new suggestion, once again following your logic: we simply need someone who is stronger than Wolverine.

Hossein Reza vs Wolverine. The former is stronger, but the latter is more skilled. Have fun.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Says the person who commited the false analogy and ad populem fallacies?

Guess whose logic I was trying to parallel? I'm sorry if I can't do it perfectly. I don't lower myself to your standards very often. Still using phrases that you do not even understand properly. How sad.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Probably because your point is illogical and assinine. and unlike the rest of the well known marvel fanboys I don't swallow bullshit. wave

I understand why. A cow doesn't appreciate the harmonica either. You're forgiven.

Nah you don't swallow it. You spout it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So was it collosus?

I know it was odin! Cause they had to entirely ignore and or misinterpret my point in order to combat it, thus making it not my point. Because that's the only way they can debate, by not reading properly.

Quanchi said that strength doesn't factor into a fight.

And then made the comparison, not mentioning the blackbelts awesome magical power:

Oh look he even mentioned the hulk.

So I named someone who was faster than him and was more skilled in hand to hand. Thus setting up Hulk as the weight lifter and Wolverine as the black belt. Hulk is stronger, Wolverine is faster and more skilled.

To which he goes against his reasoning from before:

Thus having that blackbelt (speed & skill) lose to the weightlifter (strength)

So the weightlifter wins only when it suits his point.

I put up a real life example which had nothing to do with comics or powers. Then you tried to put your spin on that and say falsely that was what I was saying when it wasnt.

You attached two comic book characters to my real life example which fails on many levels.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Am I the only person not that impressed with Odin? His so called "galaxy busting" feat, is only described through narration which can easily be viewed as hyperbole. Imo it sounds like a metaphor of some sort, rather than a solid feat of power. And destroying dead planets and reigniting new suns, does not make him the most impressive thing since sliced bread. Even pc Superman had better feats than that

Originally posted by quanchi112

I put up a real life example which had nothing to do with comics or powers. Then you tried to put your spin on that and say falsely that was what I was saying when it wasnt.

You attached two comic book characters to my real life example which fails on many levels.

eeeeexactly.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
eeeeexactly.

Originally posted by Ouallada
The point that the rest of us were trying to make flew clear over your head.

Tell me about it. banghead

Not going to argue with anyone here.

Odin wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
in a comic, superman would beat odin. some how. some way. in the world of common sense, odin would turn superman into a kryptonite pencil and write superman's obituary with it.

Only way supes beats odin is in the world of dc comics with a fan based vote.

In the world of dc comics hes so popular the fans would vote he could take down the specter and galactus at the same time. this is how rediculous some fans can be.

this is why fan voteing equals GAY!.

odin 10/10

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Imperiex amped brianiac. So brainac took all of Imperiexs power?