Originally posted by ExodusCloak
X-treme X-Men. Tessa was his first student and she was trained to spy on Shaw little did she know what that required.
I never really understood sage to begin with to be honest.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
do you know what issue? I own most of them so I like to re read it. I must have either missed that or some how forgotten about it.I never really understood sage to begin with to be honest.
There's a few...I know the Original 6 thing is in one of the early issues maybe 3? Then when Bogan appears Sage talks about her life in the Hellfire Club and how she wasn't able to save Jean. I think that was in the 40's.
I've seen you talk about Pierce so I know you've read Claremonts recent Hellfire arc in UXM. Don't remember if there's anything in there.
Morrisons Sage is the best.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
There's a few...I know the Original 6 thing is in one of the early issues maybe 3? Then when Bogan appears Sage talks about her life in the Hellfire Club and how she wasn't able to save Jean. I think that was in the 40's.I've seen you talk about Pierce so I know you've read Claremonts recent Hellfire arc in UXM. Don't remember if there's anything in there.
Morrisons Sage is the best.
Now there isent to my knowledge. I like Pierce he very under written character. Hell ll the hellfireclub is out side shaw and emma.
Yea she is.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
How's he a paedo if Jean is over 16?Emma's the one who got gangbanged when she was under 16.
What part of Xavier knew her well before she joined the X-Men do you not understand? He was like a "friend" of the family.
Nope that was retconned by Bollers and Morrison, the one who ended up in an asylum was Christian. And even if it hadn't been I don't understand how getting gangbanged makes someone a paedo?
Originally posted by Mindset
How did she completely embarrass him in Legacy?
She slapped him psychically, took a walkthrough his head despite all his protests. Called him a reprobate with a wheelchair fetish. Made him cry.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Turning Xavier from fatherly headmaster to major douchebag for no apparent reason and without any buildup is reason #1,351 why Marvel disgusts me.
The man was a douchebag with his child soldiers (This is from Chris Claremont) and his paedophilia from day one.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What part of Xavier knew her well before she joined the X-Men do you not understand? He was like a "friend" of the family.Nope that was retconned by Bollers and Morrison, the one who ended up in an asylum was Christian. And even if it hadn't been I don't understand how getting gangbanged makes someone a paedo?.
Didn't say it did.
She slapped him psychically, took a walkthrough his head despite all his protests
Originally posted by Survivor19
Well, he didn't even try to resist. Xavier has a martyr mentality, you know.
Also, i do not see anything creepy/wrong with Xavier's feelings for Jean. I think he should've just confessed them and married her. He would make a better husband then a Scott Summers, i believe.
Umm he was like "Release me" Emma is all like "No"...he then was like "Then I'll have to make you"...Emma was then like "What you see here, all of this is playing out in your mind this is the last place you want to pick a fight with me." If he could he wouldn't have been rolling on the floor shouting "nooo". Scott was even worried.
Legacy was basically: Exodus wasn't trying to fight him and Xaviers brain was about to explode due to guilt, Sebastian Shaw and Gambit needed to save Xavier from Sinister by destroying the DNA machine thing, Emma humiliated him, Miss Sinister had him where she wanted him and even then she let him beat her, that was part of her plan all along so he could hurt himself when probing Daken.
Right this is the man who was grooming her since she saw her friend knocked over by a car. What was she like twelve back then? God only knows how old he was back then.
BTW Scott was Maddie's husband before he was Jeans. You reap what you sew. Emma is clever enough not to marry him.
Originally posted by nikbackm
So, are you saying that he never sent out teenagers to fight Magneto and other evil mutants in the original X-Men series?
Well, he couldve ALLOWED Magneto to steal nuclear warheads or whatever else he was up to...
The X-Men were always intended to be a action based team. He wasnt taking random students from the school and forcing them to fight, he assembled a capable team and TRAINED them to handle these situations. Not to mention the majority of Superheros start when they are teenagers. Why? Because teenagers buy comics and relate to them better. Here we are 40 years later and Iceman still seems like hes a teenager.
I blame writers trying to shake things up too much only to crap on these established characters. I can run down some characters who were sacrificed for this nonsense if you'd like....