Originally posted by exanda kane
Who said anything about the prequel trilogy?While yes, congratulations for working it out, the US Civil War does play a part in the influence, I don't see any Slaves anywhere.
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Shmi was a slave, Anakin was a slave.
Clones are in a way slaves.
First you disagree with me and then try and counter my introspective analogy with a totally unrelated analogy. I disgress:
The Imperials are voiced by British (mostly) actors and the Rebels are American. I know that is obvious and has been remarked upon alot, but it is simply a retelling of the creation myth of America in the way; the Americans rebelling against the British.
Ergo, I find it amusing that one would debunk my reference to the Empire and the Rebellion as a retelling of the American creation myth with a reference to the Clone Wars as the Civil War while failing to realise that they are both, in fact, inspirations for the events in the Star Wars universe. Whether this is in the Prequel Forum or the EU forum, you cannot shrug off that fact.
Anakin Skywalkers position as indentured servant is inconsequential to the later events of the Clone Wars and thus your analogy fails.
Originally posted by BetrayedUnicorn
I never noticed this...will have to go watch for it...are you talking about when he removes the vader helmet and shows his face?
No I am talking about the difference between pre-vader Anakin (Ep 1-3) and vader Anakin (Ep 4-6) - whilst I can understand the voice change, I am confused how his accent also changes from his distinctly American accent to a non-American accent.
Possibly somthing overlooked by Lucas? After all Vader's voice was an after thought.
Originally posted by GahLakTusOr maybe it's got to do that the man was nearly immolated and had to be put into a giant iron lung which distorted his voice! Honestly, accent aside, you do realize his voice deepens by just a smidgen don't you? If his voice is gonna change so radically, why not alter his accent too?
No I am talking about the difference between pre-vader Anakin (Ep 1-3) and vader Anakin (Ep 4-6) - whilst I can understand the voice change, I am confused how his accent also changes from his distinctly American accent to a non-American accent.Possibly somthing overlooked by Lucas? After all Vader's voice was an after thought.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Yeah, the yanks have never really got over the British thing. It's like the Nazi's, Communists and the Brits are the perfect pantomime villains for America, but they neglect to realise that they have some pretty dark and embarassing history too.
no, we have no stereotypical british villains. Not that i can think of, anyway. We hate the memory of fat george, but you guys are good allies, and responsible for junkyard wars, america's got talent, and Robin hood. Our villains tend to stem from communistic/terroristic/nazi countries. Also, the way your females say "brilliant" is so HAWT!!!
damn, im even tivoing old junk yard wars and watching em... thats like one of the most inspiring shows ever.
and i meant actual movie/story characters. when you watch a film like gungadin, you are proud we came from british roots. I mean, i can think of bad guys that are british, but in most of those movies, the good guys are british too. (james bond) (pirates of the carribean III)
Allan rickman is awesome. he's cool in quigley down under and makes a good bad guy. I like him as much as i hate him. he also plays good guys, thou. Ian Mkellen is gandalf and the grandpa in national treasure. wtf u mean stereotypical bad guy??? you got me on jason isaacs. Jonathan pryce is elizabeth swan's father from pirates of the carribean III. I dont really recognise the rest but the ones i do, i recognise as good guys lol... except for allan rickman and jason isaacs. but allan rickman was also the one (good) guy in either sense and sensebility or pride and prejudice, whichever movie i almost could stand watching halfway through before blowing up the tv from the sheer lack of action or storyline or character. omg that movie was sappy
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Allan rickman is awesome. he's cool in quigley down under and makes a good bad guy. I like him as much as i hate him. he also plays good guys, thou. Ian Mkellen is gandalf and the grandpa in national treasure. wtf u mean stereotypical bad guy??? you got me on jason isaacs. Jonathan pryce is elizabeth swan's father from pirates of the carribean III. I dont really recognise the rest but the ones i do, i recognise as good guys lol... except for allan rickman and jason isaacs. but allan rickman was also the one (good) guy in either sense and sensebility or pride and prejudice, whichever movie i almost could stand watching halfway through before blowing up the tv from the sheer lack of action or storyline or character. omg that movie was sappy
Knightfall, seriously - you can't confuse supporting characters with the villains. Nor can you point out the exception to every rule and fail to see that the overriding trends go against your point. Also, you are mentioning films set predominantly in England or Britain, such as the Jane Austen adaptations (by the way, its crap, but you can't say that they dont have storyline or character; quite the opposite in fact) or films set before the American Revolution such as Pirates.
Fair do - you enjoy alot of British things, so good on you, but you cannot deny the way Hollywood uses the British as villains. I believe it's the accent - which I have heard somehow equates to intelligence - or Recieved Pronounciation and the face that an intelligent villain is almost always deemed a worthier villain.
Originally posted by Rampant ox
Christopher Lee anyone? He epitomises the stereotypical British villain. Saruman, Dooku, Scaramanga etc, all slick, elegant villains with a distinct British accent.
Lol at your internet crush on Chris Lee, any excuse to name drop your fantasy love match. Reminds me of that spiderman/man spider idiot, lololol.
Originally posted by exanda kaneI also like fish and crackers. IF a more intelligent villain is a worthier villain, then you should be complimented when they use a british accent on a villain to make him seem more intelligent 😛 ANd truly, i recognise very few of those that you mentioned as bad guys. For some reason i instantly thought gandalf or Governor swan. I dont know those two from anything else lol.
Fair do - you enjoy alot of British things, so good on you, but you cannot deny the way Hollywood uses the British as villains. I believe it's the accent - which I have heard somehow equates to intelligence - or Recieved Pronounciation and the face that an intelligent villain is almost always deemed a worthier villain.
It was awkward how anakin changed from a british accent to an american one in the later episodes. His injuries aren't a reason for his accent to change. I doubt Lucas' motivation for selecting a british actor for anakin in episode 3 had anything to do with elaborating on vader's characer, it was to appeal to the american audiences.