Yuga Khan vs Thanos

Started by Creshosk12 pages
Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
No... the context is necessary because the two parts of the argument are dependant on eachother. Ignoring one makes the other an inconclusive or bad argument.
No, it being an invalid argument makes it a bad argument. The only context is that its being selectively applied. Or do you deny he made the argument:

"X doesn't have impressive battle feats,
Y does have impressive battle feats.
Therefore X loses to Y."

Next I expect Phantom Zone and or Ouallada to come in and start championing his bad logic. Cause birds of a feather flock together.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord
Originally posted by Galan007
I made that comment because of the people persistently bringing up that instance, as though it's some kind of black mark against Yuga (lol).

I think only Kandy&Quan have claimed that. 😛

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by Creshosk
Next I expect Phantom Zone and or Ouallada to come in and start championing his bad logic. Cause birds of a feather flock together.
Well... that was unnecessary...

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well... that was unnecessary...
Well last time I attacked Quanchi's bad logic, Kandy, Ouallada and Kotex all showed up defending him.

Kandy showed up to defend Quanchi's bad logic this time... so is it really unreasonable to expect the other to to show up?

I mean I could be wrong and they won't try to defend that bad reasoning...

But I've noticed that people within certain groups tend to defend each other around here.

Though it was amusing to see Master Bruce call Quanchi a Marvel fanboy.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Creshosk
Though it was amusing to see Master Bruce call Quanchi a Marvel fanboy.
I lol'd. *shrugs*

The Great Galen Restricted

Khan can generate enough concussive force to obliterate an entire planet, he can also move at hyperspace speeds. He would be throwing hundreds if not thousands of "planet busting"punches right into Thanos's face whom if I'm not mistaken got a bloody nose from Thor. This isn't even including Khans ability to generate the "Thanos Cide" energy to punch right through his chest.

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by Creshosk
Well last time I attacked Quanchi's bad logic, Kandy, Ouallada and Kotex all showed up defending him.

Kandy showed up to defend Quanchi's bad logic this time... so is it really unreasonable to expect the other to to show up?

I mean I could be wrong and they won't try to defend that bad reasoning...

But I've noticed that people within certain groups tend to defend each other around here.

Though it was amusing to see Master Bruce call Quanchi a Marvel fanboy.

It's still trolling... and it was still uncalled for. 😬

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Anyway... Darkseid outright admitted:
"I could kill Yuga Khan if I had the power to--"

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Creshosk
Red herring ignored.

I don't have to I never made the claim, I'm just using your ad hoc reasoning.

X doesn't have impressive battle feats,
Y does have impressive battle feats.
Therefore X loses to Y.

Do you deny using this argument?

Horrible logic? Its what you're using, rather hypocritically at that.

You ignore the whole reasoning as to why I came to my conclusion and thus have a false representation of my logic.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think you missed the whole "Darkseid can kill Yuga Khan" part of Quanchi's argument. That's a rather important part.
Exactly. He flat out ignores it and has been trolling for quite some time. Then he gets angry when others call him out on it.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It's still trolling... and it was still uncalled for. 😬
I had an interesting discussion with a mod about what the definition of trolling is.

And no it wasn't trolling, it was a statement of expectation based on a recent past event.

Am I wrong to assume that something that has happened once before recently might possibly happen a second time?

So I'd like to see why you thought it was trolling...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
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Anyway... Darkseid outright admitted:
"I could kill Yuga Khan if I had the power to--"

You know something funny?

I could kill Yuga Khan if I had the power to. Does that make me superior to him?

Seriously, if I had the power to kill Yuga Kahn, I could kill him, because then I'd have the power to do just that. That same statement could be applied to anyone.

I could kill Wolverine if I had the power to.

"What's your special power?"
"I have the power to kill Wolverine. Pisses him off something fierce."
"Seems rather limited doesn't it?"
"Are you complaining about me having a power that I'm sure alot of people would love to have?"

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Khan can generate enough concussive force to obliterate an entire planet, he can also move at hyperspace speeds. He would be throwing hundreds if not thousands of "planet busting"punches right into Thanos's face whom if I'm not mistaken got a bloody nose from Thor. This isn't even including Khans ability to generate the "Thanos Cide" energy to punch right through his chest.
So can Terrax. Whats your point. Do you realize how many characters can destroy planets. The Surfer has done it and look how easily Thanos has destroyed him.

Thanos got a bloody nose from power gem Thor. Thats not too shabby if you read the arc and saw what he was capable of.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Galan007
DS said to Orion, "I cannot kill Yuga Khan for the same reason you cannot kill me". Never once did DS demonstrate power on as grand a scale as Yuga, on panel [ie. killing most of the New Gods simultaneously, and merging with the source on a whim] - but if Darky's one comment makes him more powerful than Yuga, then I lulz @ this thread.

🙂.

No one claimed he was more powerful than Yuga but that Darkseid had the power necessary to defeat him which he couldnt do anyways because you know the rest. If Darkseid had the power then I can only logically assume more powerful characters can kill him as well.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No. Because Quan's reasoning is facetious and hypocritical.

Especially because the Darkseid can kill Yuga arguement isn't just based on power. It's prophecy. the son cannot kill the father is the only part preventing DS from acting.

and the rest of his arguement is horseshit. Trying to downplay Yuga's power by claiming that DS can kill him is assuming that Darkseid is weaker than Thanos and ignoring the context. Not to mention it's a high feat for Darkseid and a testament to his power, rather than a black mark against Yuga.

Or do I have to bring up what happened when Yuga woke up from the Source wall? He devoured a solar system after he nuked a few planets in the blink of an eye.

What context am I ignoring?

Anyone more powerful than Darkseid can take him out. Yuga also knew his son was powerless and couldnt act as Orion is the only one who could break this and Darkseid knew it. If I were Yuga Id feel pretty confident when the one new god that can kill me cant.

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by Creshosk
I had an interesting discussion with a mod about what the definition of trolling is.

And no it wasn't trolling, it was a statement of expectation based on a recent past event.

Am I wrong to assume that something that has happened once before recently might possibly happen a second time?

So I'd like to see why you thought it was trolling...

Because you're insulting two other members that have/had nothing to do with the discussion.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You know something funny?

I could kill Yuga Khan if I had the power to. Does that make me superior to him?

Seriously, if I had the power to kill Yuga Kahn, I could kill him, because then I'd have the power to do just that. That same statement could be applied to anyone.

I could kill Wolverine if I had the power to.

"What's your special power?"
"I have the power to kill Wolverine. Pisses him off something fierce."
"Seems rather limited doesn't it?"
"Are you complaining about me having a power that I'm sure alot of people would love to have?"

OK... either way, Darkseid couldn't kill his father because he wasn't powerful enough, and because of his respect.

Which leads to Thanos losing.

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one claimed he was more powerful than Yuga but that Darkseid had the power necessary to defeat him which he couldnt do anyways because you know the rest. If Darkseid had the power then I can only logically assume more powerful characters can kill him as well.
Where did it say Darkseid had the power to defeat Khan?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Where did it say Darkseid had the power to defeat Khan?
Tomorrow Ill post the scan.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one claimed he was more powerful than Yuga
Oh I love this...

"He's not more powerful, but he has the power to kill him."

Originally posted by quanchi112
but that Darkseid had the power necessary to defeat him which he couldnt do anyways because you know the rest. If Darkseid had the power then I can only logically assume more powerful characters can kill him as well.
But I thought you just said that you didn't say that Darkseid was more powerful, just that he had the power to kill him...

Originally posted by quanchi112
What context am I ignoring?

Anyone more powerful than Darkseid can take him out. Yuga also knew his son was powerless and couldnt act as Orion is the only one who could break this and Darkseid knew it. If I were Yuga Id feel pretty confident when the one new god that can kill me cant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid was stated as having enough power to kill Yuga. He wasnt allowed to though according to the story. Facts. Thanos is more powerful and more durable than Darkseid. Therefore he kills Yuga Khan, as Yuga cant depower him.

This cracks me up... "Darkseid wasn't more powerful, but anyone more powerful than Darkseid could kill him...

So Yuga>DS and according to you: Thanos>DS therefore Thanos>Yuga?

That's High-larry-us.

A>B and C>B therefore C>A

What if A =8, B is 1 and C is 3
C would be greater than B but not A. Therefore your reasoning fails.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Because you're insulting two other members that have/had nothing to do with the discussion.
Its an insult to be associated with Kandy and Quanchi?

You do realize you just indirectly insulted Kandy and Quanchi don't you?

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tomorrow Ill post the scan.
Go for it.
In the meantime...
Even if Darkseid had the power to, he couldn't kill Yuga... and he doesn't have the power anyway.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/ff371fd3.jpg

Mr. Slippyfist Dead

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its an insult to be associated with Kandy and Quanchi?

You do realize you just indirectly insulted Kandy and Quanchi don't you?

"championing his bad logic."

And even if I did... I don't care. I'm just pointing it out for you, because I'm cute like that.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
"championing his bad logic."
They did before. Should I not expect them to do so again? I'm still not certian how doing such a thing is an insult.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And even if I did... I don't care. I'm just pointing it out for you, because I'm cute like that.

Like that and other ways. At least that's what the ladies say.