Originally posted by quanchi112Oh, does TOAA have the impressive battle feats? Or is this more of your selectivism?
Yuga and TOAA are completely different.[]/b]
Originally posted by quanchi112Fixed.
[B] You take things out and focus on only a little to draw correct conclusions with my faulty logic.
Originally posted by quanchi112Unproven biased speculation.
Darkseid was stated as having enough power to kill Yuga. He wasnt allowed to though according to the story. Facts. Thanos is more powerful and more durable than Darkseid.
Originally posted by quanchi112Ad hoc reasoning.
Therefore he kills Yuga Khan, as Yuga cant depower him.
This is what I mean about you not using valid logic.
Originally posted by quanchi112Just because its a forum fight does not mean you strip powers they are proven to have. And you certainly don't give them abilities they are NOT proven to have.
Going back in time to sop someones birth is ridiculous. This is a forum fight in which the characters battle.
Go read the rules.
Originally posted by CreshoskIt was plainly stated in the comic that Darkseid had the power to kill Yuga.
Oh, does TOAA have the impressive battle feats? Or is this more of your selectivism?Fixed.
Unproven biased speculation.
Ad hoc reasoning.
This is what I mean about you not using valid logic.
Keep twisting what I say. Did you read the comic?
Your comparisons have been faulty from the start.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was plainly stated in the comic that Darkseid had the power to kill Yuga.Keep twisting what I say. Did you read the comic?
Your comparisons have been faulty from the start.
You don't get it do you?
your logic is "X doesn't have impressive battle feats Y does. Therefore Y will beat X".
That's the reasoning you're using. Selectively at that.
You only say they're faulty because they prove you wrong.
I'm not twisting what you say I'm pointing out what you're saying even if you don't realize it.
Yuga doesn't have impressive battle feats, therefore he loses. Right?
TOAA doesn't have impressive battle feats, therefore he doesn't lose? Talk about hypocritical.
Originally posted by CreshoskTOAA is TOAA while Yuga is a guy who can be killed by Darkseid like power. Big difference and trying to compare the two is beyond wrong. Quit ignoring that little fun fact I keep posting over and over again thats right in the comic.
You don't get it do you?your logic is "X doesn't have impressive battle feats Y does. Therefore Y will beat X".
That's the reasoning you're using. Selectively at that.
You only say they're faulty because they prove you wrong.
I'm not twisting what you say I'm pointing out what you're saying even if you don't realize it.
Yuga doesn't have impressive battle feats, therefore he loses. Right?
TOAA doesn't have impressive battle feats, therefore he doesn't lose? Talk about hypocritical.
Show me a statement where someone claims they can defeat TOAA or that someone of Darkseid power can do so.
Originally posted by quanchi112Red herring ignored.
TOAA is TOAA while Yuga is a guy who can be killed by Darkseid like power. Big difference and trying to compare the two is beyond wrong. Quit ignoring that little fun fact I keep posting over and over again thats right in the comic.Show me a statement where someone claims they can defeat TOAA or that someone of Darkseid power can do so.
I don't have to I never made the claim, I'm just using your ad hoc reasoning.
X doesn't have impressive battle feats,
Y does have impressive battle feats.
Therefore X loses to Y.
Do you deny using this argument?
Horrible logic? Its what you're using, rather hypocritically at that.
Originally posted by King KandyActually its quite a red herring.
I think you missed the whole "Darkseid can kill Yuga Khan" part of Quanchi's argument. That's a rather important part.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think both Odin and Thanos could take Yuga as he has lacks impressive battle feats.
Regardless of his conclusion(Odin and thanos could take Yuga Khan) being correct or incorrect his reasoning(because he lacks impressive battle feats) is horribly flawed.
You'll note that I've said nothing of his conclusion, just the reasoning.
"The sky is blue because ice cream is made from granite pebbles."
You'll note that the conclusion "The sky reflects a wavelength of light that is perceived and recognized by homo sapiens as 'blue' " is correct.
You'll not that the reasoning "Because a frozen dairy substance that is liquid at room temperature is generally composed of feldspar, mica and quartz." is incorrect.
I'm not arguing against his conclusion. I'm arguing against his flawed reasoning.
Originally posted by King KandyAnd its the only part I'm currently arguing against.
That was only PART of his reasoning.
Originally posted by King KandyYou totally missed how I was arguing against flawed reasoning. You'll note that my continued argument against flawed reasoning continues. I'm being consistant not hypocritical.
Besides, weren't you arguing with me just recently that the conclusion is more important then the logic/debating?
Originally posted by CreshoskTOAA doesn't have impressive battle feats, therefore he doesn't lose?
Talk about hypocritical.
I have to agree that TOAA does not need battle feats to prove himself.
Because TOAA/God create/draw everything that takes place on panel.
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Here God draws a Marvel cosmos, and in an instant, it becomes reality:
Even Galactus is just an insignificant drawing on a piece of paper:
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Toaa/God are literally manipulating everything that takes place in the Marvel Universe,
here we see them discussing the future arcs for the Silver Surfer and Black Panther:
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Toaa/God is what makes characters in Marvel a reality,
doesn't seem logical that Toaa/God need to prove themselves
to their drawings with battle feats.
Especially when it's them that are creating said battles scenarios with a stroke of a pencil:
"The wellspring of ALL Reality is a Yellow Stick" (a Pencil)
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In the end, "god" (the Artist) sends the FF home, notice the BACKGROUND!
It's a freakin SKETCH obviously made by the PENCIL!
The SKETCH becomes their Marvel Universe: (back home)
Originally posted by Creshosk
And its the only part I'm currently arguing against.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You totally missed how I was arguing against flawed reasoning. You'll note that my continued argument against flawed reasoning continues. I'm being consistant not hypocritical.
No. Because Quan's reasoning is facetious and hypocritical.
Especially because the Darkseid can kill Yuga arguement isn't just based on power. It's prophecy. the son cannot kill the father is the only part preventing DS from acting.
and the rest of his arguement is horseshit. Trying to downplay Yuga's power by claiming that DS can kill him is assuming that Darkseid is weaker than Thanos and ignoring the context. Not to mention it's a high feat for Darkseid and a testament to his power, rather than a black mark against Yuga.
Or do I have to bring up what happened when Yuga woke up from the Source wall? He devoured a solar system after he nuked a few planets in the blink of an eye.
DS said to Orion, "I cannot kill Yuga Khan for the same reason you cannot kill me". Never once did DS demonstrate power on as grand a scale as Yuga, on panel [ie. killing most of the New Gods simultaneously, and merging with the source on a whim] - but if Darky's one comment makes him more powerful than Yuga, then I lulz @ this thread.
🙂.
Originally posted by Galan007
DS said to Orion, "I cannot kill Yuga Khan for the same reason you cannot kill me". Never once did DS demonstrate power on as grand a scale as Yuga, on panel [ie. killing most of the New Gods simultaneously, and merging with the source on a whim] - but if Darky's one comment makes him more powerful than Yuga, then I lulz @ this thread.🙂.
Nobody's claiming that. Not even me. Yuga himself said that Darkseid's power was the only one that 'approached' his own.
The lulz is that anyone is arguing for Thanos. g_grin
Originally posted by King KandyThe context of it only being applicable to those you and quanchi choose to apply it to?
Well of course it's going to sound stupid when you take it out of context like that.
Originally posted by King KandyWhat am I supposed to do go after trick for insulting people as his arguments? Have you forgotten that I tend to insult people as well?
If Trick's bad debating doesn't matter since he got the right answer, shouldn't the same go for Quanchi?
Also that's circular reasoning. Quanchi hasn't proven his arguments.
One of them "Thanos is superior to Darkseid" is unproven.
Sure its proven in his and possibly your minds, but that's because of his and possibly your bias.
