H2H Punisher vs Bullseye

Originally posted by iceman24567
American Eagle is a super human being above peek human thats not a bad showing for Bullseye at all.

Thats what I was thinking but he is a kinder a B-lister. He might be superhuman but hes not that superhuman he seems enhanced to me.

Originally posted by Nihilist
maybe,maybe not but he got his ass kicked.

Yeah but then again Spiderman is superhuman and some peak humans can have him for breakfast. I dont think that AE is anywhere as good as Spiderman so really its kinda bad Bulls got messed up.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats what I was thinking but he is a kinder a B-lister. He might be superhuman but hes not that superhuman he seems enhanced to me.

Yeah but then again Spiderman is superhuman and some peak humans can have him for breakfast. I dont think that AE is anywhere as good as Spiderman so really its kinda bad Bulls got messed up.

What difference does it make if American Eagle is a B-lister? He's still got the powerset to stomp Bullseye. And peak humans should never give Spider-Man trouble unless they've got some power or weapon that would even things out a bit.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What difference does it make if American Eagle is a B-lister?

B-listers tend not to do so well.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

He's still got the powerset to stomp Bullseye. And peak humans should never give Spider-Man trouble unless they've got some power or weapon that would even things out a bit.

No they beat Spiderman because eventhough Spiderman is superhuman they are better trained and Spiderman does not have a massive margin between then in terms of reflexes.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
B-listers tend not to do so well.

B-Listers job a lot. That's why.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No they beat Spiderman because even though Spiderman is superhuman they are better trained and Spiderman does not have a massive margin between then in terms of reflexes.

Spider-Man jobs too. Even if that were true, he's still faster and has a massive strength advantage. Like I said, without an equalizer, Spider-Man should never have trouble with peak humans.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
B-Listers job a lot. That's why.

Or sometimes they are just not good enough like when Hatemonger engaged Cap in H2H. Anyway characters that tend to lose alot are not given the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Spider-Man jobs too. Even if that were true, he's still faster and has a massive strength advantage. Like I said, without an equalizer, Spider-Man should never have trouble with peak humans.

The only adavantage is strength and yes he does pull his punches. As I said to you his speed advantage is not that great for him to get owned by some peak humans. Taskmaster is able to copy his moves and therefore this is an indication that hes not that much faster than peak humans. Prior to Iron Fists upgrade Spiderman had serious trouble dodging Is attacks and thats when he chi was messing him up. Even if Spiderman was not holding back if his chi was working properly he would have still given Spiderman trouble (not the Iron Fist his chi in general was messing up).

The fight that Bullseye had with Spiderman didnt even come down to H2H and it involved Spiderman having to use his webbing as a shield because Bullseye was so fast. At the end of the day its not a good showing I think that Bullseye got beaten by AE when Spiderman is a much more difficult opponent. To be fair though I have not read the fight between them so maybe there are cirumstances.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er but Frank stomped him in bullseye vs punisher. 😄

Bullseye had Elektra beat back in the day, frank is slim pickings. He doesn't stand a chance in hell.

Originally posted by Nihilist
maybe,maybe not but he got his ass kicked.

American Eagle is a class 10 easily, and Bullseye was electrocuted in the middle of the fight.

Originally posted by godking
No he did'nt that was a close win for Frank.

Yeah your right actually, went a bit overboard. 👆

Originally posted by llagrok
Bullseye had Elektra beat back in the day, frank is slim pickings. He doesn't stand a chance in hell.

Thats interesting Frank beat DD back in the day. 👆

Punisher can beat Spider-Man apprently so he wins.

Right Zone?

Originally posted by smashyou
Punisher can beat Spider-Man apprently so he wins.

Right Zone?

With prep..yes. Don't see what that has to do with Bullseye vs Punsiher H2H.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah your right actually, went a bit overboard. 👆

Thats interesting Frank beat DD back in the day. 👆

Not in straight up H2H and if Bullseye had a nickle every time he beat Daredevil, he'd have a dollar already!

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
With prep..yes. Don't see what that has to do with Bullseye vs Punsiher H2H.

I am referring to H2H.

Originally posted by llagrok
Not in straight up H2H

and Daredevil was not fighting Frank in straight H2H either. At any rate when it was straight H2H Frank was doing very well.

Originally posted by smashyou
I am referring to H2H.

Nope I cant see Frank beating Spiderman H2H. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and Daredevil was not fighting Frank in straight H2H either. At any rate when it was straight H2H Frank was doing very well.

Still won't help him against Bullseye.

Bullseye hits much harder than Frank, is obviously a more skilled martial artist and can turn anything into a weapon.

Frank can....perform surgery on himself? and get knocked out by 12 year olds?

Originally posted by llagrok
Still won't help him against Bullseye.

Bullseye hits much harder than Frank, is obviously a more skilled martial artist

Which is why Bullseye lost....

Originally posted by llagrok

and can turn anything into a weapon.

Its H2H no wepons allowed.

Originally posted by llagrok

Frank can....perform surgery on himself? and get knocked out by 12 year olds?

Molly Hayes who he didnt know was a mutant?

Bullseye.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Which is why Bullseye lost....

Its H2H no wepons allowed.

Molly Hayes who he didnt know was a mutant?

Bullseye is the more skilled martial artist, after years of consistent portrayal, which hit a bump in the punisher/bullseye issue. But heeeey, of course that's not PIS. I mean, a character magically losing abilities in order to help the plot, how can that be PIS?

Bullseye doesn't need a weapon, he needs a tooth.

Originally posted by llagrok
Bullseye is the more skilled martial artist, after years of consistent portrayal, which hit a bump in the punisher/bullseye issue. But heeeey, of course that's not PIS. I mean, a character magically losing abilities in order to help the plot, how can that be PIS?

*sigh* No its not PIS because Frank has held his own against Daredevil who is better than Bullseye and as stated already he busted up DD badly in there last fight.

Originally posted by llagrok

Bullseye doesn't need a weapon, he needs a tooth.

No weapons are allowed so even if he gets a tooth knocked out he cant use it. Hell Bullseyes has been punched in the face 100s of times without losing a tooth so we can assume it wont happen now.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What difference does it make if American Eagle is a B-lister? He's still got the powerset to stomp Bullseye. And peak humans should never give Spider-Man trouble unless they've got some power or weapon that would even things out a bit.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* No its not PIS because Frank has held his own against Daredevil who is better than Bullseye and as stated already he busted up DD badly in there last fight.

No weapons are allowed so even if he gets a tooth knocked out he cant use it. Hell Bullseyes has been punched in the face 100s of times without losing a tooth so we can assume it wont happen now.