Originally posted by psycho gundam
the ultimate nullifier isn't just a gun, it's a universal artifact.
I should hope everyone knows that...but it's still tech that can be controlled.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
aside from the technopathy, who would win in a power to power fight?
In a straight up brawl? Tyrant had problems with Thanos in H2H and Henshaw could keep rebuilding/upgrading indefinitely. On a planet like Cybertron, this would be even worse.
I'd still give it to Tyrant as generally he's supposed to be in a higher tier of power altogether. Henshaw would just be extremely annoying for him like Thanos was.
On Cybertron though, could be anyones game should any of them tap into it's full power.
Originally posted by AvlonTyrant is still more powerful and it will come down to who is more powerful as they are both technopaths while Tyrant has a huge edge in experience as he has been around a lot longer.
Baseless speculation. What we do know is that all 3 are very advanced and it the top tier of things.With all of Cybertrons resources (depending on the version) it's a free for all for whoever can tap into it first.
Originally posted by AvlonProve the un can be controlled and its just tech.
I should hope everyone knows that...but it's still tech that can be controlled.In a straight up brawl? Tyrant had problems with Thanos in H2H and Henshaw could keep rebuilding/upgrading indefinitely. On a planet like Cybertron, this would be even worse.
I'd still give it to Tyrant as generally he's supposed to be in a higher tier of power altogether. Henshaw would just be extremely annoying for him like Thanos was.
On Cybertron though, could be anyones game should any of them tap into it's full power.
Thanos is above anyone who henshaw beat. So your comparison falls short. Henshaw needed rings to assert dominance over Superman while Tyrant asserts dominance over the Surfer(who is Supermans superior),Beta Ray Bill,Jack of Hearts,Ganymede,Morg,etc all trying to beat him at once.
Comparing Henshaw to Thanos falls short as he is just a top tier.
Originally posted by AvlonThis gun is not comparable to the un at all.
From what I saw it that scan, it seems that Tyrant has to be in direct contact with something to manipulate it any way.Obeserve. This would have been a good time to use his technopath skills:
Henshaw would have been able to do it:
Seeing as those were posted right after my post. I'll assume they are directed at me.
Are you a moron? You asked me to put you on ignore, yet almost every time I post something, strangely enough, your name is right after mine even though you should know by now that I can't see your posts...
Troll much?
Originally posted by AvlonI can respond to whatever I want to. I asked you to put me on ignore because you were insulting and for your sake not mine. You can continue to ignore me if you cant control yourself but you cant ask me to ignore you.
Seeing as those were posted right after my post. I'll assume they are directed at me.Are you a moron? You asked me to put you on ignore, yet almost every time I post something, strangely enough, your name is right after mine.
Troll much?
I am not trolling I am debating. Why dont you respond to my points and not me.
Originally posted by Avlon
Seeing as those were posted right after my post. I'll assume they are directed at me.Are you a moron? You asked me to put you on ignore, yet almost every time I post something, strangely enough, your name is right after mine even though you should know by now that I can't see your posts...
Troll much?
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Yeah, he's talking at you.
Quanchi doesn't want to accept it that Tyrant needs to touch something to techopath it, while Henshaw has never had such a limitation.
Henshaw possesses Tyrant's body FTW.
Originally posted by jadervasonHenshaw cant possess Tyrant. Where are you getting an idea like this. Tyrant can bend anything to his will. This isnt about technopathy its about them fighting. Tyrant is much more powerful and was beating on Galactus while whats Henshaw greatest moment in the sun? Beating Superman? 😉
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Yeah, he's talking at you.
Quanchi doesn't want to accept it that Tyrant needs to touch something to techopath it, while Henshaw has never had such a limitation.
Henshaw possesses Tyrant's body FTW.
This thread is spite plain and simple.
Originally posted by jadervason
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Yeah, he's talking at you.
Quanchi doesn't want to accept it that Tyrant needs to touch something to techopath it, while Henshaw has never had such a limitation.
Henshaw possesses Tyrant's body FTW.
I guess the fact that he tries to debate me even though he knows I can't see his posts is illogical...
I'm simply going by what's on panel. From what I saw, Henshaw is still by far the better technopath. Considering this is Cybertron, that could make a big difference.
Originally posted by AvlonHenshaw may have more feats but Tyrants feat imo was more impressive, manipulating Galactus tech used against him in battle. This thread isnt about who is a better technopath its about Tyrant fighting Henshaw.
I guess the fact that he tries to debate me even though he knows I can't see his posts is illogical...I'm simply going by what's on panel. From what I saw, Henshaw is still by far the better technopath.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Henshaw cant possess Tyrant. Where are you getting an idea like this. Tyrant can bend anything to his will. This isnt about technopathy its about them fighting. Tyrant is much more powerful and was beating on Galactus while whats Henshaw greatest moment in the sun? Beating Superman? 😉This thread is spite plain and simple.
AHEM. We all know Henshaw can't take Tyrant in a straight fight. And if his body wasn't made of tech, Henshaw wouldn't have much other than pissing him off.
But.....He is made of tech. And this is an arena with a plethora of riches for a strong technopath. The undisputed truth, is that Henshaw is by far the better technopath.
Beating supes isn't close to Henshaw's best. And as I pointed out, Henshaw has already pulled a 'Unicron' so to speak. And personally, I don't give Tyrant a chance against the shit Avlon has shown is inside Cybertron.
Even Tyrant can run out of gas eventually, and it's not a low showing in the least to go down to a planet full of technology controlled by the greatest technopath in comics. Tyrant is basically fighting the entire planet, and you have shown NOTHING to demonstrate that he has technopathic skill on that level. Galactus tech, sure. But nowhere near the skill and level of Hank Henshaw.
A sentient technorganic planet controlled by an insane technopath with access to some of the best tech in comics vs. Tyrant. And that's not even counting things like the Underbase, or Primus.
Tyrant is screwed in this arena.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThere is no proof to suggest Henshaw is the better technopath. Its only speculation due to Henshaw using it more and having a lot more appearances.
AHEM. We all know Henshaw can't take Tyrant in a straight fight. And if his body wasn't made of tech, Henshaw wouldn't have much other than pissing him off.But.....He is made of tech. And this is an arena with a plethora of riches for a strong technopath. The undisputed truth, is that Henshaw is by far the better technopath.
Beating supes isn't close to Henshaw's best. And as I pointed out, Henshaw has already pulled a 'Unicron' so to speak. And personally, I don't give Tyrant a chance against the shit Avlon has shown is inside Cybertron.
Even Tyrant can run out of gas eventually, and it's not a low showing in the least to go down to a planet full of technology controlled by the greatest technopath in comics. Tyrant is basically fighting the entire planet, and you have shown NOTHING to demonstrate that he has technopathic skill on that level. Galactus tech, sure. But nowhere near the skill and level of Hank Henshaw.
A sentient technorganic planet controlled by an insane technopath with access to some of the best tech in comics vs. Tyrant. And that's not even counting things like the Underbase, or Primus.
Tyrant is screwed in this arena.
Tyrant is capable of destroying planet busters in packs. Galactus didnt want to fight him because of the damage it could cause. tyrant could waste this planet in no time but could also control it as well as everything bends to his will on this planet. Saying Henshaw overrides Tyrants powers over tech is baseless speculation. So if avlon showed what Cybertron is capable of then Tyrant also has access to this as well.
What is Henshaw's best then trick? Because I guarantee you he has no feats that compare to beating on Galactus and destroying the team of badasses he went through in the Surfer storyline so it falls way short of Tyrant's worst which is losing to Galactus once and getting beat by the un.
Again he isnt the greatest technopath in comics and Tyrant can manipulate tech just as good as Henshaw and is much more powerful. Tyrant for the easy win.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AHEM. We all know Henshaw can't take Tyrant in a straight fight. And if his body wasn't made of tech, Henshaw wouldn't have much other than pissing him off.But.....He is made of tech. And this is an arena with a plethora of riches for a strong technopath. The undisputed truth, is that Henshaw is by far the better technopath.
Beating supes isn't close to Henshaw's best. And as I pointed out, Henshaw has already pulled a 'Unicron' so to speak. And personally, I don't give Tyrant a chance against the shit Avlon has shown is inside Cybertron.
Even Tyrant can run out of gas eventually, and it's not a low showing in the least to go down to a planet full of technology controlled by the greatest technopath in comics. Tyrant is basically fighting the entire planet, and you have shown NOTHING to demonstrate that he has technopathic skill on that level. Galactus tech, sure. But nowhere near the skill and level of Hank Henshaw.
A sentient technorganic planet controlled by an insane technopath with access to some of the best tech in comics vs. Tyrant. And that's not even counting things like the Underbase, or Primus.
Tyrant is screwed in this arena.
I'd have to disagree with you (and Avlon) on that line of reasoning Trickster. Taking over non-sentient machines and taking over a techno-organic life form which is near abstract level isn't particularly analogous. Unless you think Henshaw could beat Unicron, Primus, or Magus of the Technarchy as well simply because they are part or wholly mechanical.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd have to disagree with you (and Avlon) on that line of reasoning Trickster. Taking over non-sentient machines and taking over a techno-organic life form which is near abstract level isn't particularly analogous. Unless you think Henshaw could beat Unicron, Primus, or Magus of the Technarchy as well simply because they are part or wholly mechanical.
Hey hey...I've never stated anything of that sort amigo. 😠
I simply stated that there is a lot of untapped power in Cybertron which could be the determining factor of this particular battle. So far Henshaw is the better technopath. Tyrant is the (allegedly) uber cosmic being.
A standard Henshaw without powerup's took a respectable amount of damage from Parallax and kept going for a while. Same guy who effortlessly ko'd Supes with one punch. Tyrant had problems with Thanos.
The Last Autobot should be able to whip both Henshaw or Tyrant. The guy can rip and combine souls with a thought.
Originally posted by Avlon
Hey hey...I've never stated anything of that sort amigo. 😠I simply stated that there is a lot of untapped power in Cybertron which could be the determining factor of this particular battle. So far Henshaw is the better technopath. Tyrant is the (allegedly) uber cosmic being.
A standard Henshaw without powerup's took a respectable amount of damage from Parallax and kept going for a while. Same guy who effortlessly ko'd Supes with one punch. Tyrant had problems with Thanos.
The Last Autobot should be able to whip both Henshaw or Tyrant. The guy can rip and combine souls with a thought.
Then there's always the Kryptonian factor...
