Originally posted by Daredevil1
No this fight is hand to hand. No weapons and in New York. This fight happens by our decisions from the comics.So thats really not much of a point.
Yes, it is. You're using a couple pages from one issue of a comic where the fight didn't even finish, and Spiderman was too busy admiring Cap ti show any skill to show Cap wins.
If that's not your proof then what are you using?
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, it is. You're using a couple pages from one issue of a comic where the fight didn't even finish, and Spiderman was too busy admiring Cap ti show any skill to show Cap wins.If that's not your proof then what are you using?
There scuffles and both Cap had the advantage.
Yes your right they did not end and no one won, to either please both sides of the fans or such, but Marvel has shown Cap to have a small edge in there fights.
Thats what I'm using.
Originally posted by Mindset
What scuffles, when else did they fight?
They've had some scuffles in there past encounters.
One was in the past as Spiderman attacking Cap. As Cap blocked with his shield and then punched Spiderman down. Spiderman commented that Cap punches as if he has mini a-bombs in his fists as he's dizzy on the ground. Spiderman leaves immediately as no one won the fight but Cap a very small advantage.
The other was very brief in civil war with Spidey hitting Cap with his own shield. As then Cap uppercut Spiderman. Then Ironman interfered. The fight was a tie.
Third fight happened in Spideys own book again Civil war with Cap having a small advantage. As Cap landed the physcial hits with Spiderman just getting a small scratch on Cap.
Again no one wonbut Cap had the small advantage IMO. I'll get you issue numbers later.
No pis here, this is a battle that will end when only one is standing.
Originally posted by ApolloknightNot saying either combatant would take the majority, but it will not be a stomp for either side.
I assure you it will be a stomp ✅ but it won't be Cap doing the stomping ❌
Strength feats
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http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed3.jpg
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Agility/speed/reflexes feats
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg
CW #7 – Reed is astonished by Spidey’s speed
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8447506
Dodging lasers while barely paying attention
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6634101
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Battles
Graveyard fight with Wolverine
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Wolverine in my opinion, is a better fighter than Cap. Spider-Man was doing pretty good fighting him. And Spider-Man clearly let Wolverine tackle him. If you put Cap in that situation where Spidey isn't holding back, he would've been killed on that tombstone. And so much for Cap MA skills, as Spidey did a lot better fighting Iron Man than Cap. Iron Man destroyed Cap in their first battle, in CW. And all of Spidey's feats that I post speak clearly that if there is no pis and if he's not holding back. He would destroy Cap h2h or otherwise. And He is not holding back in this battle. No pis and no draws. Battle ends when one man is standing. And that man is Spider-Man.
I remember all but the first one you mentioned.
During Civil War Spiderman never wanted to fight Cap, while Cap did temporarily a have small advantages, Spiderman didn't even fight like he usually does, at least it didn't look that way to me.
Like I said, they bring Spiderman's level of fighting ability down.
Originally posted by Mindset
I remember all but the first one you mentioned.During Civil War Spiderman never wanted to fight Cap, while Cap did temporarily a have small advantages, Spiderman didn't even fight like he usually does, at least it didn't look that way to me.
Like I said, they bring Spiderman's level of fighting ability down.
Agreed. But not on KMC.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Agreed. But not on KMC.
And you would be wrong. Read the rules. I copied and paste them below.
"It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. "
Notice it states-
"Still within the character's personality."
If its within the character's personality to hold back or not give it there all. Its what is used for the standard.
Your the thread starter so its your fault for not indicating in your starting thread, that they will be fighting out of character to kill or in true blood lust.
Originally posted by Mindset
I remember all but the first one you mentioned.During Civil War Spiderman never wanted to fight Cap, while Cap did temporarily a have small advantages, Spiderman didn't even fight like he usually does, at least it didn't look that way to me.
1. Cap didnt want to fight Spiderman either.
2. You do realise that Spiderman was upgraded. He had added protection, class 25 strength and his spidersense had improved and he didnt even hit Cap once...only with the mechanical arms and he does not have them in this fight.
3. A robot clone of Spiderman said he couldnt take Cap in H2H, the clone fought Spiderman it lost but it could have gone either way
Originally posted by Mindset
Like I said, they bring Spiderman's level of fighting ability down.
Prove it.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, come on kids. Class 15.
What good is that if he cant even hit Cap? Even if he can Cap can take some of his punches.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Greater durability.
Which is not going to make a difference.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Greater speed.
Which isnt great enough to make a difference.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Pre-cog.
Cap has enhanced senses and his pre-cog is not good enough to make a difference.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Even if he just stands still and boxes Cap or something, skill advantage alone doesn't account for all that.
Yeah it is.
1. Robot clone couldnt take him in H2H. Clone was not holding back
2. Civil War.
Originally posted by Badabing
Agreed. 👆Don't forget what a no holding back Peter did to Fisk.......
Has Fisk analysed Spidermans fighting style? Nope. Spiderman loses.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
1. Cap didnt want to fight Spiderman either.
You continue to fill this thread with your nonsense and completely ignore the scans I've posted. So is Cap a better fighter than Wolverine and is he more durable? Because last I check, Wolverine is considers one of Marvels very top most skilled martial artist.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What good is that if he cant even hit Cap? Even if he can Cap can take some of his punches.
So by your logic, Cap is faster than Quick Silver?
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spydvsquicksilver1b0yd.jpg
Dodging a bullet AFTER it’s shot
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6506479
Oh yeah, it sure is logical that Cap should be able to even land a single hit on him. Because his reflexes are just as fast, right 😬
😆 So Cap is as durable as Wolverine too right?
http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvswolverine572ej.jpg
And yet the X-Men can't stop him, see how easily he smacks Wolverine aside.
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Originally posted by Daredevil1
And you would be wrong. Read the rules. I copied and paste them below."It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. "
Notice it states-
"Still within the character's personality."If its within the character's personality to hold back or not give it there all. Its what is used for the standard.
Your the thread starter so its your fault for not indicating in your starting thread, that they will be fighting out of character to kill or in true blood lust.
😆 Well you've only proved my point. Spider-Man at his "best" of his ability has taken on and defeated far more than Cap could ever offer, Scorpion, Venom, Carnage, Electro, Green Goblin etc. 😬
Originally posted by Marvelknight
You continue to fill this thread with your nonsense and completely ignore the scans I've posted. So is Cap a better fighter than Wolverine and is he more durable? Because last I check, Wolverine is considers one of Marvels very top most skilled martial artist.
yeah he is better than Wolverine actually.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
So by your logic, Cap is faster than Quick Silver?http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spydvsquicksilver1b0yd.jpg
Cap has hit Quicksilver before from what I can remember...or he has at least dodged other speedsters.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Dodging a bullet AFTER it’s shothttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6506479
*sigh* Cp has done that as well....
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Oh yeah, it sure is logical that Cap should be able to even land a single hit on him. Because his reflexes are just as fast, right 😬
Not far off actually.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
😆 So Cap is as durable as Wolverine too right?http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvswolverine572ej.jpg
He doesnt have to be.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
And yet the X-Men can't stop him, see how easily he smacks Wolverine aside.http://img317.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyxmen11kx.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyxmen27do.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyxmen35so.jpg
That wouldnt happen now would it. Have you seen some of the fights were Spiderman is struglling to get away or the other fight in the graveyard where Spiderman is shitting himself.
"Class 15"
What good is that if he cant even hit Cap? Even if he can Cap can take some of his punches.
"Greater durability"
Which is not going to make a difference.
"Greater speed"
Which isnt great enough to make a difference.
😐
... srsly? Even with Spiderman having the advantage in virtually every pracitcal way, he'd still lose only due to the fact that "Cap has analyzed his style"?
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
"Class 15""Greater durability"
"Greater speed"
😐
... srsly?
Yes seriously. Cap was owning Spiderman in the civil war also a robot clone of Spiderman said he couldnt take Cap H2H. 😬
Yes serioulsy the speed difference between Cap and Spiderman is not huge. Yes Cap is good enough to dodge alot of Spidermans punches and is durable enough to take some of his punches.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes seriously. Cap was owning Spiderman in the civil war also a robot clone of Spiderman said he couldnt take Cap H2H. 😬Yes serioulsy the speed difference between Cap and Spiderman is not huge. Yes Cap is good enough to dodge alot of Spidermans punches and is durable enough to take some of his punches.
No he is not durable enough to withstand Spidey punches with full force behind it. 🤨 That is the most stupid statement I've ever heard. Spidey could rip him in half if he wanted to, more durable my ass. Cap doesn't have his shield. He isn't taking any kind hit from Spidey, with full force behind it. And robots will never be better than humans with great potential . They have limitations that humans can surpass. That was another stupid comment.
