Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Started by Daredevil190 pages

Speed. No Spiderman is faster but he can't overwhelm Cap with it. As seen in his fights with him. Plus Cap has nasty speed feats as well.

Speed/Agility

Cap outruns DiamondBack as we see Cap is so far he's just a spec on the page.
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While Punisher runs up the stairs, Cap beats him to the top of the building.
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Cap runs past Daredevil like he's a breeze. DD attests that Cap is faster then himself.
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Ironfist states he has never faced anyone like Cap. Cap's speed is incredible as Danny states this.
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Cap hits a flying rammer up close as it was in mid-flight.
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Catching a mid-flight Arrow.
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Cap moves quicker then a swirving van.
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Cap moves quicker then a thrown car by the superhuman Armadillo.
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These advanced tracking balls move quick as we see Cap can tag it.
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Cap dodges lots of impact weapons.
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Cap dodges bullets the second guy doesn't even bother trying from up close.(This scene I've always liked)
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Cap blocking bullets after they were fired.
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Cap blocks bullets with a shield throw. Notice the bullets were fired first.
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Cap dodges these bullets and then gets infront of them.
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Cap dodges bullets at point blank range.
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Cap dodging bullets and explains he see's faster.
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Cap dodging lots of bullets.
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Cap slipping between bullets.
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Cap moving so fast they didn't even know were he went.
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Cap moves so fast they couldn't fathom were he went.
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Again Cap moves so fast he's else where.
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Moving fast.
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Cap moves with the speed of his shield.
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Again Cap moves so fast he's behind the shooter.
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They can't get a bead on Cap.
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The Shooters couldn't follow Cap as they were even ready.
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Cap strikes before shooters could do anything.
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Cap hits the trip wires and jumps before explosion.
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Cap impresses Quicksilver with his speed.
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Cap fights a freak that compares Cap's speed to Quiksilver.(That same guy tagged QSilver.
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Cap counters Quicksilver.
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Cap dodges a speedster.
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Again dodges a speedster.
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Cap tags the superfast Android(Who was able to keep up with Quicksilver)
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Again tags the Android.
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The Superfast Whirlwind.
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Cap tags Whirlwind.
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Cap meets Punisher at the top of the building while Punisher goes up the stairs.
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Cap goes through a training in 5 minutes. This same training was designed for Beast.
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Cap keeps up with Beast.
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Cap grabs the fast Puma in mid-leap.
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An atleantean can't keep up with Cap.
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Cap caught up with the Mystical Superhuman Black crow as he reaches quickly the top.
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Cap runs through before Nazis can do anything.
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This entire army can't even scratch Cap, as Cap even escaped the explosions leaving them in the dust.
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Cap avoids tons of stars from a being that got the upperhand on the SilverSurfer.
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Typical Cap blocking a energy beam aimed at his upper body.
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Dodging beams.
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Cap rolls with a energy beam.
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Cap dodging beams while falling.
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Cap with metal glove blocks random energy beams, definitely fast hand speed.
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Cap dodges beams unders zero gravity.
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Cap blocks mulitple beams in different areas.
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Again blocks mulitiple beams in different areas.
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Cap trapped in a floor designed to spin with beams coming from all direction.
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Cap in volume 3 dodging beams again.
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Cap's durability is up there as well.

Durability

Cap handles this nuclear furnace.
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Survives a big explosion.
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Without shield survives a extreme high airplane crash.
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Jumps out of helicopter leaves small foot craters on ground.
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Jumps out of helicopter onto vehicle.
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High quint-jet fall strikes Onslaught on the way down.
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Cap falls, notice the Quinjet is close to the buildings height.
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Cap falls, releases from parachute.
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Another release from parachute.
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Cap jumps off a building through the glass of another building and lands on the ground of the the second building.
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High building fall.
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Building fall.
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Cap falls from two or three hundred feet before crashing in the ocean.
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Falls off a building to the top of another building.
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Fall from a high-Shield building.
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Building jump to another.
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Nasty elevator crash.
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Leaps out of a crashing plane into the ocean.
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Insane fall traveling over 100 mph, lands on the hard Thing Ben Grimm.
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Fall into ocean.
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Canon ball crash into ocean.
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Falls ontop of a Shield Sub?
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Gets hit by a vehicle going 40 mph, doesn't hurt him much.
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Survives being crushed by Dragon Man.
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Entire building falls down as Cap, as the Red Scull uses Cap's durable body as the wrecking ball "ouch".
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Cap takes a nasty beating from Namor.
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Cap takes a nasty beating from a blood lusted Ironman.
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Even worse from Spiderman/Ironman and then some.
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Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
"Class 15"

"Greater durability"

"Greater speed"

😐

... srsly? Even with Spiderman having the advantage in virtually every pracitcal way, he'd still lose [b]only due to the fact that "Cap has analyzed his style"? [/B]

Analyzed his style.....not just that. Cap's is superior in skill. and Parker holds back. That is why Cap has had the advantage on him in the past.

All hail Captain lol ... damn i knew he was good but not that good.

Also something else thats not being considered.

Cap has defeated Spiderman rogues. All of whom don't hold back and have defeated Spiderman. Now does this constitutes for Cap winning against Spiderman.........No. I've already given my reason why Cap wins.

And thats because Parker holds back and Cap has "superior skill". But Cap has defeated Scorpion, Tarantuala, Doc Octopus, and even Rhino. He can because he's that skilled. Now Spiderman has beat these guys as well but so has Cap.

Rhino was the most difficult as in he outwitted him and used the environment as they fight continued underground with low-oxygen and Rhino fatigued and struggled to breath.....while Caps stamina and oxygen was just fine. This show how impressive Cap's body from its internal is impressive even in comparison to a powerhouse like Rhino.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
All hail Captain lol ... damn i knew he was good but not that good.

He's superior to great athletes like Daredevil and Batman. But I'm not going to lie. In Stats Spiderman is Cap's "superior".

But the rules state the characters shall fight while "in character" and Spidey is his own worst enemy as he holds back more so then most and respects Cap more then most.

Now if this was a blood-lust fight(out of character.) Spiderman I'll give him the majority for 7-8/10. But even that fight Cap will give him problems.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Also something else thats not being considered.

Cap has defeated Spiderman rogues. All of whom don't hold back and have defeated Spiderman. Now does this constitutes for Cap winning against Spiderman.........No. I've already given my reason why Cap wins.

And thats because Parker holds back and Cap has "superior skill". But Cap has defeated Scorpion, Tarantuala, Doc Octopus, and even Rhino. He can because he's that skilled. Now Spiderman has beat these guys as well but so has Cap.

Rhino was the most difficult as in he outwitted him and used the environment as they fight continued underground with low-oxygen and Rhino fatigued and struggled to breath.....while Caps stamina and oxygen was just fine. This show how impressive Cap's body from its internal is impressive even in comparison to a powerhouse like Rhino.

just a random question, i was debating with my friend in the other thread and I want to know, you think BAtman can win against Cap w/ standard equipment. And what would happen for the result of the fight if bats took the SSS and had standard equipment will he be able to beat cap?

Posting a respect thread isn't debating. It's also insulting to think most people aren't familiar with both characters, or couldn't look them up themselves. 1-2 of his best = acceptable. 30-40 = childish.

I said my piece on page 1, and don't feel like reiterating, but at the moment this thread has the maturity level of a 5th grader from quite a few parties involved. At least try to use reason and be respectful. Otherwise, threads like this justify a lot of the bad stuff people say about teh vs. forum.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
just a random question, i was debating with my friend in the other thread and I want to know, you think BAtman can win against Cap w/ standard equipment. And what would happen for the result of the fight if bats took the SSS and had standard equipment will he be able to beat cap?

With standard equipment IMO, its a toss-up 5/10. But of course I'm going to go with Cap. Since I am a Cap fan.

Bats with the SSS and standard equipment will get the majority IMO.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Posting a respect thread isn't debating. It's also insulting to think most people aren't familiar with both characters, or couldn't look them up themselves. 1-2 of his best = acceptable. 30-40 = childish.

I said my piece on page 1, and don't feel like reiterating, but at the moment this thread has the maturity level of a 5th grader from quite a few parties involved. At least try to use reason and be respectful. Otherwise, threads like this justify a lot of the bad stuff people say about teh vs. forum.

No it isn't debating put it lets others see as even Lord Feron is now more knowledgable.

I think your mathematical equation of 1-2 is acceptable and 30-40 is childish. That type of thinking is childish and immature IMO.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
No it isn't debating put it lets others see as even Lord Feron is now more knowledgable.

I think your mathematical equation of 1-2 is acceptable and 30-40 is childish. That type of thinking is childish and immature IMO.

Why? See, you're entitled to your opinion, but should really provide reasoning for it. Maybe your issue with my opinion is valid, but at least I said why with mine.

But I'd really rather not get into a flame war with you. There's not much point to it, and it was intended as constructive criticism, not demeaning insult. I don't have a problem with you, or those who think Cap would win, I just don't like seeing sub-par debating and insults being thrown around when none are needed.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
With standard equipment IMO, its a toss-up 5/10. But of course I'm going to go with Cap. Since I am a Cap fan.

Bats with the SSS and standard equipment will get the majority IMO.

K thanks! 😄

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Why? See, you're entitled to your opinion, but should really provide reasoning for it. Maybe your issue with my opinion is valid, but at least I said why with mine.

But I'd really rather not get into a flame war with you. There's not much point to it, and it was intended as constructive criticism, not demeaning insult. I don't have a problem with you, or those who think Cap would win, I just don't like seeing sub-par debating and insults being thrown around when none are needed.

Say what you will. But even before the scans got posted you stated.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, come on kids.

To be little even if you meant by joking. I don't want to get into a flame war with you either. I hope no one does. But just calling it how I see it as well.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
K thanks! 😄

Your welcome. But the scans I thank the poster Saotome on another forum.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Say what you will. But even before the scans got posted you stated.

To be little even if you meant by joking. I don't want to get into a flame war with you either. I hope no one does. But just calling it how I see it as well.

I use the term kids all the time, usually when doing mod stuff but it leaks into my normal speech (I'm a teacher, so it's part of my daily repertoire of phrases). Heck, I call adults that sometimes for comedic value. How is it an insult? I can understand not liking to be insulted, but there's a difference between than and just being overly sensitive.

And you're also likely seeing the whole comment as directed toward you. The part about insults and such was directed in general, because we had a lot of "nuh-uh, yuh-huh" style stuff, and implying that anyone who thought otherwise was not smart. The only part of that comment that was directed at you was the comment about posting a ton of scans. I'm here to make things better, even if it involves criticism...and not to insult anyone.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I use the term kids all the time, usually when doing mod stuff but it leaks inot my normal speech (I'm a teacher, so it's part of my daily repertoire of phrases). Heck, I call adults that sometimes for comedic value. How is it an insult? I can understand not liking to be insulted, but there's a difference between than and just being overly sensitive.

And you're also likely seeing the whole comment as directed toward you. The part about insults and such was directed in general, because we had a lot of "nuh-uh, yuh-huh" style stuff, and implying that anyone who thought otherwise was not smart. The only part of that comment that was directed at you was the comment about posting a ton of scans.

Thank you for admitting its too me. I guess you ignore the other poster who posted more then 5 scans of Spidey and nothing towards him. He posted 26 scan links of Spidey but you target the Cap fan. Wheres that on your mathematical equation.

Calling me Kid can be taken as a insult. And you calling me childish and immature is a insult.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Thank you for admitting its too me. I guess you ignore the other poster who posted more then 5 scans of Spidey and nothing towards him. He posted 26 scan links of Spidey but you target the Cap fan. Wheres that on your mathematical equation.

Calling me Kid can be taken as a insult. And you calling me childish and immature is a insult.

Well, I thought it was. Like I said, force-feeding us numerous scans of Cap when most are quite familiar with him is a bit condescending, especially when 1-2 would suffice. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, though I already clarified that while I agree with those comments it's intended as criticism but not personal insults. Though as for the first part, I didn't call you a kid. That was earlier, not intended toward anyone in particular, and also intended as light humor. Deciding it wasn't intended as that doesn't change that fact...or are we taking a consequentialist stance and judging actions by their consequences rather than their intentions? I'm sorry you feel insulted by it, but I can't say I'd do anything differently because none was intended.

Also, I didn't see the other scans you were talking about. I can't really defend myself there because it's an invalid attack on me in the first place. I can't be everywhere at once, and it's also citing another person's post to justify your own....it doesn't actually refute my original gripe. Why are you continuing this anyway?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Cap was owning Spiderman in the civil war

Then that seriously sounds like bad writing. That's as ridiculous as Spidey beating Firelord.When you're completely outclassed in almost every conceivable way you shouldn't be winning any fights.

also a robot clone of Spiderman said he couldn't take Cap H2H. 😬

Robot clones aren’t known for there tactical and intuitive intelligence. It’s also a fact that pretty much every major superhero in the history of comics has a robot clone made of them, and the hero almost always beats it in the end somehow… so what some robot says means nothing.

Yes serioulsy the speed difference between Cap and Spiderman is not huge.

But it’s there. 😐

Yes Cap is good enough to dodge alot of Spidermans punches

yeah… and Spidey should be able to dodge all of his.

and is durable enough to take some of his punches.

Doubt he could take more then maybe… two class 15 punches.

Analyzed his style.....not just that. Cap's is superior in skill.

So? Skill doesn’t matter if you’re opponent is faster then you, stronger then you, more durable then you, and either as smart, or smarter, then you, in addition to them having a precog that actually tells him what you’re going to do before you even do it, as opposed to you just making guesses based on your “analysis” of his previous fights.

and Parker holds back.

I was under the impression that personality traits like these in particular weren’t taken into consideration for vs. matches, otherwise most bad guys would always lose because they’re cocky. 😬

Ah well. Peter just lowers his class 15 punch down to 8 class punches. Now he’s only punching with sixteen thousand pounds of force behind them.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Well, I thought it was. Like I said, force-feeding us numerous scans of Cap when most are quite familiar with him is a bit condescending, especially when 1-2 would suffice. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, though I already clarified that while I agree with those comments it's intended as criticism but not personal insults. Though as for the first part, I didn't call you a kid. That was earlier, not intended toward anyone in particular, and also intended as light humor. Deciding it wasn't intended as that doesn't change that fact...or are we taking a consequentialist stance and judging actions by their consequences rather than their intentions? I'm sorry you feel insulted by it, but I can't say I'd do anything differently because none was intended.

Also, I didn't see the other scans you were talking about. I can't really defend myself there because it's an invalid attack on me in the first place. I can't be everywhere at once, and it's also citing another person's post to justify your own....it doesn't actually refute my original gripe. Why are you continuing this anyway?

I think the above answers everything I need to say. Continue believing what you want. Others see and read.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
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Robot clones aren’t known for there tactical and intuitive intelligence. It’s also a fact that pretty much every major superhero in the history of comics has a robot clone made of them, and the hero almost always beats it in the end somehow… so what some robot says means nothing.

That Robot clone was made from Kang from the far future and that robot defeated "all the avengers" by fighting and outwitting. That Robot stalemated Spiderman and Spiderman had to defeat it with plot at that IIRC.