Originally posted by Merlynis that so? then please do provide the scan which says this:
Rune of the Ultraverse (a Universe located in another Marvel Multiverse)
took all Six Gems from their protectors in the 616 reality:
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Rune formed the IG:
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In order for the LT to interfere, it's NOT a matter of power,
but simply a matter of agreement between his Three faces:
Surfer:
"I KNOW you have the Power to stop this creature,
so I suggest you do it yourself"
LT:
"For this self to act, All Three faces MUST AGREE"
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Ok.
No more, "LT was unsure if he could wrest the Gauntlet" inaccurate info please.
^^
that was rune, a being from another universe (which could well be why LT was sketchy of "acting"😉. so back to my question, please prvide me the panel which stated this:
Originally posted by Mr Master
he was really "determining" whether his Three faces would agree for him to act.
in redagrd to WARLOCK, (which is whom you first referred to).
Originally posted by Mr Master
With pleasure friend. 🙂Rune of the Ultraverse (a Universe located in another Marvel Multiverse)
took all Six Gems from their protectors in the 616 reality:.................................................................................
Rune formed the IG:
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In order for the LT to interfere, it's NOT a matter of power,
:
[B]but simply a matter of agreement between his Three facesSurfer:
"I KNOW you have the Power to stop this creature,
so I suggest you do it yourself"LT:
"For this self to act, All Three faces MUST AGREE"
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Ok.
No more, "LT was unsure if he could wrest the Gauntlet" inaccurate info please. [/B]
That's not really proof. The Surfer simply stating he knows the LT has the power doesn't say much. The LT's power is so far beyond SS's comprehension that it's virtually impossible for him to know this for sure. Besides, the LT didn't say he agreed with SS's statement. He simply said he couldn't act unless all three of his faces agreed.
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As for IG/Warlock and the LT not being sure:
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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - 2006 - LT - bio)
"the Living Tribunal demonstrated that his power surpassed that of the Gems"
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Marvel comics evidently, is sure about what took place on panel!
Originally posted by Merlynthat was rune, a being from another universe
(which could well be why LT was sketchy of "acting"😉.
Originally posted by Merlynso back to my question, please prvide me the panel which stated this:
in redagrd to WARLOCK, (which is whom you first referred to).
Cool, this debate can go no further.
Originally posted by Bentley
SS has cosmic awareness, why is the LT so outside his scope, because you say so?
SS's cosmic awareness doesn't give him omniscence. The SS has shown ignorance of beings far beneath the LT. It doesn't make sense that he would know exactly what the LT can and can't do. All he knows is that the LT is the most powerful being in the multiverse.
Originally posted by celestialdemonThat's not really proof.
I think it coincides perfectly with the Marvel Comics established fact,
that states in the official Marvel Handbook,
the LT is above the IG,
but as we see, the LT performs duties with strict protocol,
and thus, the LT must be in complete agreement with his Three faces in order to act.
Originally posted by celestialdemonThe Surfer simply stating he knows the LT has the power doesn't say much.
Tells us so.
The LT didn't reply with,
"no" or "perhaps" or "I'm not sure" or "we will see" or any other response that leads to speculation.
The Silver Surfer said, "I KNOW you can beat this creature"
The LT said, "in order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"
Clearly indicating a YES! ... but with a circumstance.
That circumstance being,
"in order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"
Originally posted by celestialdemonThe LT's power is so far beyond SS's comprehension
that it's virtually impossible for him to know this for sure.
SS knows because of past experience (Infinity War)
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"His judgement is obviously keeping the GEMS from working together"
This isn't control over the IG?
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Galactus has to PLEAD to the Living Tribunal to ALLOW the Gauntlet to function:
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Since it was Eternity who convinced the Tribunal to rule against the IG,
only Eternity now can make the Living Tribunal change his ruling.
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Eternity agrees, realizing the impending danger and faints:
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A single phrase uttered by LT actually POWERS UP the Infinity Gauntlet:
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The result in an instant:
Originally posted by celestialdemonBesides, the LT didn't say he agreed with SS's statement.
He simply said he couldn't act unless all three of his faces agreed.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYou said this, in regard to the LT/warlock confrontation:
I see, so you believe that wasn't the IG in Rune's hand?Cool, this debate can go no further.
Originally posted by Mr Master
he was really "determining" whether his Three faces would agree for him to act.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually it HAS been stated in comics. 🙂You gotta read good friend, that's how I find out all this info.
Not that it needs to be, since the LT nullified Warlock's IG attack with a gesture.
Then in the next arc,
the LT has absolute and complete power and/or control over the Gems,
the LT literally made the IG ineffective during Infinity War,
the LT then also powered up the IG during Infinity War.LT POWERED up the IG with a phrase. ✅
LT >>> IG ... also confirmed in LT's own official Marvel Handbook bio.
Please its your opinion...that it
LT made a verdict on the gems, separately so they would not work together...i did not see a active IG user trying to stop him?
and LT took off the edict for the infinity war....i think doctor strange could do the same...until someone more powerful came along....lucky LT is very powerful....unless it involves rune for some reason....who seemed to ignore the edict about the gems
I know its thanos talking...but its very telling when he compares the IG to the HOTU....i would debate that the IG has a good chance to beat LT
Lets see what does thanos say
"The infinity gauntlet had granted me mastery of all time,space,power,reality,the mind and the soul,but it was external control
Now i was ALL THAT WAS and subservient to none"
I leave it to the onlookers to decide what they may, i wont add my view or opinion at all
Originally posted by MerlynYou said this, in regard to the LT/warlock confrontation:
Originally posted by Merlynmy question was for you to provide a panel stating such, in regard to *that* instance. [/B]
I showed you the scans,
1. of the LT effortlessly with a gesture nullifying IG/Warlock's attack.
2. Marvel Handbook corroborating the LT's power over the Gems.
3. The LT making the IG an ineffective glove.
4. The LT powering up the IG with a phrase.
5. The LT on panel stating he only acts when his Three faces agree,
which clearly tells us what he was doing during his determination in the Warlock case.
This is the only possibility,
since all other and surrounding evidence proves the LT was/is above the IG in power.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree.I think it coincides perfectly with the Marvel Comics established fact,
that states in the official Marvel Handbook,
the LT is above the IG,
but as we see, the LT performs duties with strict protocol,
and thus, the LT must be in complete agreement with his Three faces in order to act.
I'm not disputing the protocol. I know all three faces have to agree before he acts.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah,
but the fact that the LT responded with,
"in order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"Tells us so.
The LT didn't reply with,
"no" or "perhaps" or "I'm not sure" or "we will see" or any other response that leads to speculation.The Silver Surfer said, "I KNOW you can beat this creature"
The LT said, "in order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"
Clearly indicating a YES! ... but with a circumstance.
That circumstance being,
"in order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"
Again whether his three faces agree or not doesn't mean he has the power to actually do it. Look at the HOTI incident. His faces obviously agreed there, but the LT was treated like a child.
His decision to act doesn't automatically equate to having more power.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's inconsequential.SS knows because of past experience (Infinity War)
The SS knows that the LT's ruling was keeping the Gems from working together. He doesn't know anything about the LT defeating an IG wielder in battle, because it never happened.
Originally posted by Mr MasterLTs superiority over the ig is not whats being debated. your statement regarding warlock /w/ ig is what i was speaking on.
It's the same, one and only IG friend.Proven already.
I showed you the scans,
1. of the LT effortlessly with a gesture nullifying IG/Warlock's attack.
2. Marvel Handbook corroborating the LT's power over the Gems.
3. The LT making the IG an ineffective glove.
4. The LT powering up the IG with a phrase.
5. The LT on panel stating he only acts when his Three faces agree,
which clearly tells us what he was doing during his determination in the Warlock case.
Originally posted by Mr Masterthis was my point. there's no direct proof regarding what you stated LT was doing, just your opinion based on other events.
This is the only possibility,
since all other and surrounding evidence proves the LT was/is above the IG in power.
that's all i was asking. 👆
Originally posted by starlockPlease its your opinion...that it
And Marvel Comic's opinion too, evidently:
Originally posted by Mr Master....................................................................................
(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - 2006 - LT - bio)
"the Living Tribunal demonstrated that his power surpassed that of the Gems"
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Originally posted by starlockLT made a verdict on the gems,
separately so they would not work together...
As you wish.
Originally posted by starlocki did not see a active IG user trying to stop him?
That's an IG user getting his furious attack nullified with an LT gesture.
That same IG user, with IG in hand, was ordered by the LT, and he obeyed:
Originally posted by starlockand LT took off the edict for the infinity war....
i think doctor strange could do the same...
until someone more powerful came along....
Originally posted by starlocklucky LT is very powerful....unless it involves rune for some reason....
who seemed to ignore the edict about the gems
When has Rune ever defeated the LT or even confronted the LT?
It's a mystery why the edict was ignored.
Perhaps cause Marvel wanted to make another IG arc,
which they did, that's what the Ultraforce/Avengers arc is all about.
Originally posted by starlockI know its thanos talking...
but its very telling when he compares the IG to the HOTU....
i would debate that the IG has a good chance to beat LT
Originally posted by starlockLets see what does thanos say
"The infinity gauntlet had granted me mastery of all time,space,power,reality,the mind and the soul,but it was external control
Now i was ALL THAT WAS and subservient to none"I leave it to the onlookers to decide what they may,
i wont add my view or opinion at all
