Living Tribunal/Beyonder/Eternity vs. Parallax/Thanos w/IG/ Specter

Originally posted by Merlyn

LTs superiority over the ig is not whats being debated.
your statement regarding warlock /w/ ig is what i was speaking on.

this was my point.
there's no direct proof regarding what you stated LT was doing,
just your opinion based on other events.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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In order for the LT to interfere, it's NOT a matter of power,
but simply a matter of agreement between his Three faces:

Surfer:

"I KNOW you have the Power to stop this creature,
so I suggest you do it yourself"

LT:

"For this self to act, All Three faces MUST AGREE"

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Originally posted by Merlyn

that's all i was asking.

If the LT would've been unsure, or anything alluding to that sentiment,
the official Marvel Handbook (LT's bio)
would not have concluded that he is ABOVE the IG
based on that particular incident:

(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - 2006 - LT - bio)

"the Living Tribunal demonstrated that his power surpassed that of the Gems"

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Marvel comics evidently, agrees with my so called "opinion."

Originally posted by Mr Master
And Marvel Comic's opinion too, evidently:

Interesting,
so the LT not allowing the Gems to work together,
and the LT literally powering up the IG,
isn't enough for ya to tell ya the IG's function/power is dependent on the LT?

As you wish.

Look at the scans above.

That's an IG user getting his furious attack nullified with an LT gesture.

That same IG user, with IG in hand, was ordered by the LT, and he obeyed:

😆 ... I seriously hope you're joking.

"unless it invloves rune?"

When has Rune ever defeated the LT or even confronted the LT?

It's a mystery why the edict was ignored.

Perhaps cause Marvel wanted to make another IG arc,
which they did, that's what the Ultraforce/Avengers arc is all about.

Never, I say that with confidence.

dontgetit

So LTs edict is ignored and its a mystery, how about on panel the LTs ruling was defied......did it stop them from making the infinity war...no they made a story where eternity gave permission to LT, Rune defied LTs ruling, and its on panel.......why is it a mystery and you keep putting proof of marvel's stance...where?...why because a bio references his superiority over the gems, not the GAUNTLET

I remember you stating on panel> bio, well on panel LT questioned himself, and i dont take your opinion of the events..so its ok...we will all come to our own conclusions....except i dont put them around my scans and make it seem like utter proof, i dont spam threads will the same scans over and over with my words around them to impress anybody

Yeah thats the smile i have been waiting for 😆

Originally posted by starlock

I remember you stating on panel> bio, well on panel LT questioned himself, and i dont take your opinion of the events..so its ok...we will all come to our own conclusions....except i dont put them around my scans and make it seem like utter proof, i dont spam threads will the same scans over and over with my words around them to impress anybody

Yeah thats the smile i have been waiting for 😆

The LT questioned himself? You are being misleading in propose, the LT always questions himself before acting, its his modus operandi.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

I'm not disputing the protocol.
I know all three faces have to agree before he acts.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

Again whether his three faces agree or not doesn't mean he has the power to actually do it.
Look at the HOTI incident.
His faces obviously agreed there, but the LT was treated like a child.

His decision to act doesn't automatically equate to having more power.

When he didn't act against Thanos/IG it wasn't cause Thanos was above him
the LT gave his reasons:

As you can see,
it has absolutely NOTHING to do with power.

Btw.

On Panel and in bios THOTI was above the LT, proven in both sources.

IG was dominated by the LT on panel,
and ceritifed as being above the IG in his official bio.

Quite a different story.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

The SS knows that the LT's ruling was keeping the Gems from working together.
He doesn't know anything about the LT defeating an IG wielder in battle, because it never happened.

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook - 2006 - LT - bio)

"the Living Tribunal demonstrated that his power surpassed that of the Gems"

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This!

Plus Marvel comics itself literally telling us the LT is above the IG, is enough for me.

the in betweener and galactus might as well not be in the fight. parrallax or thanos soundly trounce either with great ease. which leaves the lt to face all that power. now who knows what would happen if the power of the parrallax and the ig combined. or if the spectre could over rule the lt's power over the gems. in a neutral setting, it would be possible. team 2 in a stomp.

Originally posted by starlock

So LTs edict is ignored and its a mystery,
how about on panel the LTs ruling was defied......

Originally posted by starlock

did it stop them from making the infinity war...
no they made a story where eternity gave permission to LT

Originally posted by starlock

Rune defied LTs ruling, and its on panel.......

So Silver Surfer > LT? 😂

Originally posted by starlock

why is it a mystery and you keep putting proof of marvel's stance...where?
...why because a bio references his superiority over the gems, not the GAUNTLET

Even though the LT (on panel) made the IG ineffective?

Even though the LT (on panel) made the IG effective?

Even though with a gesture,
the LT (on panel) shunted IG/Warlock's furious attack?

Even though the LT and Warlock both stated the LT represents a force above the IG?
(making the LT above the IG, otherwise, what's the point of claiming that?)

Finally,

Even though the LT's Bio makes it quite clear that his power is above the Gems? (IG)

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The story they were describing was about the IG, not the gems separate.

And the on panel evidence speaks for itself.
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Originally posted by starlock

I remember you stating on panel> bio, well on panel LT questioned himself

"I RULE AGAINST YOU"

And the LT was about to stomp Warlock at the expense of reality,
but Warlock knew his defiance was pointless,
so Warlock obeyed.

Originally posted by starlock

and i dont take your opinion of the events..so its ok...
we will all come to our own conclusions....
except i dont put them around my scans and make it seem like utter proof

You don't make it seem like "utter proof"
cause you got none of any kind.

Originally posted by starlock

i dont spam threads will the same scans over and over
with my words around them to impress anybody

If you can't withstand all the evidence, just ignore it, (as you've been doing)
but don't beginning to insult like a troll does.

Originally posted by Bentley

The LT questioned himself?
You are being misleading in propose,
the LT always questions himself before acting,
its his modus operandi.

Unfortunately, not everyone knows this,
so it's best to have patience with them.

I'll just continue to present on panel proof corroborated in Marvel bios,
and that will be that.

After that,
it's either look, read and understand,
or,
be happy in one's ignorance.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Bad example, I never said LT's decision to act = he's above whatever.
I said LT must first be in agreement (with his 3 faces) before he acts.

When he didn't act against Thanos/IG it wasn't cause Thanos was above him
the LT gave his reasons:

As you can see,
it has absolutely NOTHING to do with power.
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I'm not going to debate who is superior between the IG and the LT since that's already been done to death.

I agree that the LT's decision to act has nothing to do with power. However, you said that the LT not disagreeing with SS was proof that he had the power to stop it. I'm simply stating that's not true. The LT just made a comment that he couldn't act, nothing about agreeing or disagreeing with Surfer.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

I'm not going to debate who is superior between the IG and the LT
since that's already been done to death.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

I agree that the LT's decision to act has nothing to do with power.
However,
you said that the LT not disagreeing with SS was proof that he had the power to stop it.
I'm simply stating that's not true.
The LT just made a comment that he couldn't act,
nothing about agreeing or disagreeing with Surfer.

But the LT's comment was in response to SS's assertive statement:

"I KNOW it is within your power to stop this creature"

LT replied:

"In order for this self to act, all Three faces must agree"

Sounds to me like,

YEA! ... but my faces have to agree before I can do that!

And the proof is in the pudding!

1. I can nullify an IG attack with a gesture.

2. I can make the IG ineffective.

3. I can power up the IG with a phrase.

4. Marvel Handbooks also certifies my superiority over the Gems.

srugdoped

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Originally posted by Marvelknight
I see that team 1 has some weak links. So I will take Galactus and In-Betweener and change them the Beyonder/Eternity.

Originally posted by Marvelknight

I guest everyone missed this post.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I guest everyone missed this post.

Originally posted by Galan007

😂

G, is the LT above the IG?

Silly question I know,
but I'd like you to just make it clear for the record,
yes, in your opinion of course.😄

Updated.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I guest everyone missed this post.

The outcome is still the same. Team 2 wins.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Alright, G is here.

G, is the LT above the IG?

Silly question I know,
but I'd like you to just make it clear for the record,
yes, in your opinion of course.😄

imo, the only reason LT had to gauge his power against Warlock /w/ IG is because he'd never faced something that powerful face to face before. LT seemed to be testing the water before he lept in, so to speak.

I'm not trying to change anyones opinion on the matter - that's just what I personally believe.

Originally posted by Galan007

imo, LT and the authority he represents are above the IG.

imo, the only reason LT had to gauge his power against Warlock /w/ IG is because he'd never faced something that powerful face to face before. LT seemed to be testing the water before he lept in, so to speak.

I'm not trying to change anyones opinion on the matter - that's just what I personally believe.

I like the explanation.

LT's team wins. I imagine that's the Pre Retcon Beyonder

LT>IG wielder

Originally posted by guy222
LT's team wins. I imagine that's the Pre Retcon Beyonder

LT>IG wielder

Why would it be ?

U think its the Post Retcon my friend