WWH w/Gem of Cyttorak vs Thanos

Originally posted by carver9
What is there to study about the juggernaut. He has proven that he is completely invulnerable. Thanos only hope against juggernaut IS bfring, especially a juggernaut that is using his force field because without bfring thanos is going to face the same unstoppable being that thor had to face. You do know that juggernaut didnt even show a sign of pain against a blast that made galactus scream and pain and leave the planet. Thats a feat unto itself. You do know that juggernaut again took a blast and didnt show a sign of pain but that same blast ripped right through a celestial. You do know that juggernaut was blast all the way to the bone and was still still walking towards his opponent with a smile on his face. I hope this scan help you think about your post. Juggernaut just took a punch from hulk and didnt even flinch.
http://i110.imagethrust.com/images/3vBw/view-image/ma-hulk-10-021.html

Juggernaut hurling a blast back at storm
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/x-men/UXM_102_19.jpg

Takes another punch to the stomach without flinching and this again is from a 100 tonner. There isnt much that thanos could do to juggernaut except bfr and we dont even know if that would work
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92137183av8.jpg

Thanos has studied Juggy, and he knows to BFR him. Nothing more, nothing less. He's smart. He couldn't take Champ down, so he watched Champ f*ck himself over. Next we see Thanos, he wastes no time, and BFR's Champ (not to say he couldn't have knocked him out). He knows about Juggy, and even if he didn't, he would have basic knowledge, and have heard about him being unstoppable, and invulnerable.

Plus, one of those scans is non-canon.
One of them is from my Photobucket account (don't know what you were going to prove to me with that).
And you're using Colossus in comparison to Thanos to try and prove something?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What do you think I'm talking about?

Thanos has studied Juggy, and he knows to BFR him. Nothing more, nothing less. He's smart. He couldn't take Champ down, so he watched Champ f*ck himself over. Next we see Thanos, he wastes no time, and BFR's Champ (not to say he couldn't have knocked him out). He knows about Juggy, and even if he didn't, he would have basic knowledge, and have heard about him being unstoppable, and invulnerable.

Plus, one of those scans is non-canon.
One of them is from my Photobucket account (don't know what you were going to prove to [b]me with that).
And you're using Colossus in comparison to Thanos to try and prove something? [/B]

Gotcha, I guess I misread your post. I know which one your thinking is non cannon and using that colossus feat is actually a good thing since I dont think that thanos could stand there and take a punch from colossus like juggernaut did.

Again we dont know that bfr would work ainst the juggernaut since cytorrak does grant the wearer the ability to teleport.

I agree, thanos is one of the most smartest and powerful beings out there but I could see him being overwhelmed by the juggernaut and even wwh. You fail to realize that not only was wwh strength increased during the arc, his durability was increase along with his speed. All of this was stated in the 3rd wwh comic that came out. I do think that thanos is a team buster. I think that he could rip through the xmen, jla, etc... if given the chance and Im not saying that hulk and juggernaut could pull the same feat since they arent as versatile as thanos BUT I know that thanos would have much of a harder time taken these two out then taking out the team that I pointed out.

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha, I guess I misread your post. I know which one your thinking is non cannon and using that colossus feat is actually a good thing since I dont think that thanos could stand there and take a punch from colossus like juggernaut did.

Again we dont know that bfr would work ainst the juggernaut since cytorrak does grant the wearer the ability to teleport.

I agree, thanos is one of the most smartest and powerful beings out there but I could see him being overwhelmed by the juggernaut and even wwh. You fail to realize that not only was wwh strength increased during the arc, his durability was increase along with his speed. All of this was stated in the 3rd wwh comic that came out. I do think that thanos is a team buster. I think that he could rip through the xmen, jla, etc... if given the chance and Im not saying that hulk and juggernaut could pull the same feat since they arent as versatile as thanos BUT I know that thanos would have much of a harder time taken these two out then taking out the team that I pointed out.

Has Juggy ever teleported? Cain Marko?
Plus, he's been teleported away by Thor before. 😬

I didn't read the last part past the first sentence. All I know is that Thanos wins. And he wins easily.
*point*

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Why not? He's taken an all out punch from Thing and wasn't effected (at his weakest form). Plus, Sassy has taken a shot to the gut from Colossus, and was unaffected.

Has Juggy ever teleported? Cain Marko?
Plus, he's been teleported away by Thor before. 😬

I didn't read the last part past the first sentence. All I know is that Thanos wins. And he wins easily.
*point*

You do know that colossus>thing when it comes to strength. Its still debatable if things is even a 100 tonner. When has sassy taken a shot from colossus and didnt budge because its not in his power to do so. Hell he budged from a punch from sabertooth and also got jurked by wildchild.

How do you think juggernaut made it back to earth when thor teleported him away. He sure didnt fly back.

The last part of my post was based on everything about the hulk being increased during the wwh arc including his speed. Theres nothing to suggest Thanos beating any one of these people easily without bfr. Thats his only hope in a battle against any one of them since both dont have any kind of weakness.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that colossus>thing when it comes to strength. Its still debatable if things is even a 100 tonner. When has sassy taken a shot from colossus and didnt budge because its not in his power to do so. Hell he budged from a punch from sabertooth and also got jurked by wildchild.

How do you think juggernaut made it back to earth when thor teleported him away. He sure didnt fly back.

The last part of my post was based on everything about the hulk being increased during the wwh arc including his speed. Theres nothing to suggest Thanos beating any one of these people easily without bfr. Thats his only hope in a battle against any one of them since both dont have any kind of weakness.

And losing to Wildchild and Sabertooth are the only things Sas can do? 😂

Anyway, here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg

'Walked', is what I believe he said.

His speed increased? What is he, Flash now? He's not avoiding getting hit by Thanos. I don't even know why you would bring up speed. 😂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And Thing is not even debatable in his league? He was called in to help the Initiative fight class 100's...
And please, if you think even current Colossus can effect Thanos, then you're smoking crack.

And losing to Wildchild and Sabertooth are the only things Sas can do? 😂

Anyway, here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg

'Walked', is what I believe he said.

His speed increased? What is he, Flash now? He's not avoiding getting hit by Thanos. I don't even know why you would bring up speed. 😂

I agree with thing fighting 100 tonners because he has basically been doing that for years. I never said that he cant fight 100 tonners, I said that he isnt one. Hell wolverine fight 100 tonners but he is far away from being one.

I never said that colossus would affect thanos but he should be able to make thanos budge since weaker characters like gamora has done so.

I never brought up sasquash losing to wild child and sabertooth, I brought up the fact that there mere strength affected him. Sasquash taking a punch from colossus is pure pis since sasquash isnt a 100 tonner himself. He is listed as a 90 tonner for years, so how in the hell is he taking punches from someone who is stronger then him. That must been tanaraq coming out of him.

Did I say anything about the flash, I said that hulks speed, strength and durability increase. I never said that hulk could move the speed of light now but with that increase in stats that should make it much harder for thanos to defeat him. Hulk was already a freakin powerhouse, any boost to his stats should be over whelming.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with thing fighting 100 tonners because he has basically been doing that for years. I never said that he cant fight 100 tonners, I said that he isnt one. Hell wolverine fight 100 tonners but he is far away from being one.

I never said that colossus would affect thanos but he should be able to make thanos budge since weaker characters like gamora has done so.

I never brought up sasquash losing to wild child and sabertooth, I brought up the fact that there mere strength affected him. Sasquash taking a punch from colossus is pure pis since sasquash isnt a 100 tonner himself. He is listed as a 90 tonner for years, so how in the hell is he taking punches from someone who is stronger then him. That must been tanaraq coming out of him.

Did I say anything about the flash, I said that hulks speed, strength and durability increase. I never said that hulk could move the speed of light now but with that increase in stats that should make it much harder for thanos to defeat him. Hulk was already a freakin powerhouse, any boost to his stats should be over whelming.

Actually, you just contradicted yourself. If he can't effect Thanos, then how can he make him budge?
Plus, Gamora one shotted She-Hulk in the same series, and Gamora uses skill, etc. Plus, if you actually took the time to research that instance you call into question, you would know that Thanos was depowered in that series (not to mention that you pass one time occurrences off as a standard... yet again).

Ya, and is this the only feats Sassy has? Take a look at his respect thread... please. You look rather ignorant, but I don't have the time to prove it right now, as I'm tired.
In Sassy's first appearance, he lifted a 250 ton object. Again you show your ignorance of the character. At least try and research the character when you try to pass something off as a fact.
Read his respect thread. Please. 🙂

Oh, so it's irrelevant to the way Thanos is going to beat him? Good, because I thought it had a point. Like, if his speed increased to a point where he could avoid getting BFR... etc.
Thanos wins. BFR.

Bed.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thing was brought in to help the kids deal with 100 tonners. They had to fight him to get experience in fighting agaisnt 100 tonners. Do you get it?

Actually, you just contradicted yourself. If he can't effect Thanos, then how can he make him budge?
Plus, Gamora one shotted She-Hulk in the same series, and Gamora uses skill, etc. Plus, if you actually took the time to research that instance you call into question, you would know that Thanos was depowered in that series (not to mention that you pass one time occurrences off as a standard... yet again).

Ya, and is this the only feats Sassy has? Take a look at his respect thread... please. You look rather ignorant, but I don't have the time to prove it right now, as I'm tired.
In Sassy's first appearance, he lifted a 250 ton object. Again you show your ignorance of the character. At least try and research the character when you try to pass something off as a fact.
Read his respect thread. Please. 🙂

Oh, so it's irrelevant to the way Thanos is going to beat him? Good, because I thought it had a point. Like, if his speed increased to a point where he could avoid getting BFR... etc.
Thanos wins. BFR.

Bed.

Have a good one. I guess I'll post against your comment tomorrow. Talk to ya later.

It's odd how no one really comes out with a reasoning behind Thanos taking the win aside from"oh he wins end of story". WWH with the gem would make him COMPLETLY immune to attacks of any sort, plus hulk already has excellent mental defense which would be further amped by the gem. Really there isn't a chance of Thanos scratching him, if he teleports him the gem will just bring him back to the battlefield.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
It's odd how no one really comes out with a reasoning behind Thanos taking the win aside from"oh he wins end of story". WWH with the gem would make him COMPLETLY immune to attacks of any sort, plus hulk already has excellent mental defense which would be further amped by the gem. Really there isn't a chance of Thanos scratching him, if he teleports him the gem will just bring him back to the battlefield.

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos didn't beat him, he restrained him.Thanos himself admitted that Thor would be too strong in 15 minutes or so.

WHY do you think he sought out Odin? To get his ass kicked? haermm

They sought out Odin who believed they were there for other reasons. Thanos held his own and didnt lose. He was still standing and refused to yield. 😛

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thanos won't be having a gun or plot device this time, he has to duke it out h2h with no aid.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Im not changing it to h2h, it is all out....but thanos is fighting under his own power without the aid of anything. Although that seems to be the way he ever wins.....

Originally posted by The Great Galen
It's odd how no one really comes out with a reasoning behind Thanos taking the win aside from"oh he wins end of story". WWH with the gem would make him COMPLETLY immune to attacks of any sort, plus hulk already has excellent mental defense which would be further amped by the gem. Really there isn't a chance of Thanos scratching him, if he teleports him the gem will just bring him back to the battlefield.

Thanos either bfrs him or puts him in an energy containment block. Two ways for him to win easily. 🙂

BRF's don't work because the gem would just teleport him back, and the collective strength hulk will now have as a result of the gem would make him easily break out of any containment block. The only alternative is for Thanos to confront Hulk h2h, and Thanos simply lacks the power to generate any physical/energy offense that would harm Juggerhulk in any serious way.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
BRF's don't work because the gem would just teleport him back, and the collective strength hulk will now have as a result of the gem would make him easily break out of any containment block. The only alternative is for Thanos to confront Hulk h2h, and Thanos simply lacks the power to generate any physical/energy offense that would harm Juggerhulk in any serious way.

Thanos doesnt need to physically hurt him as he has other ways of winning this battle.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
BRF's don't work because the gem would just teleport him back, and the collective strength hulk will now have as a result of the gem would make him easily break out of any containment block. The only alternative is for Thanos to confront Hulk h2h, and Thanos simply lacks the power to generate any physical/energy offense that would harm Juggerhulk in any serious way.

Thor w/power gem couldn't break out of it, but Hulk w/gem of cyttorak is going to? Prove that logic.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
BRF's don't work because the gem would just teleport him back, and the collective strength hulk will now have as a result of the gem would make him easily break out of any containment block. The only alternative is for Thanos to confront Hulk h2h, and Thanos simply lacks the power to generate any physical/energy offense that would harm Juggerhulk in any serious way.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thor w/power gem couldn't break out of it, but Hulk w/gem of cyttorak is going to? Prove that logic.

Maybe because Hulk is physically more powerful then thor so its only logical to assume he would...not to mention he has the aid of the gem. Juggerhulk 8/10 here.