Originally posted by ushomefreeTalk about being rude, I would expect some type of civility from you.
Da Pittman-Shut the f--k up!
Reported 😉
Originally posted by ushomefreeHe has so just just for you. Again the whole ignoring part again.
In what way, knowing that he has not watched the entire presentation?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. If someone has legit questions, or something new to bring to the discussion, I am game and won't be hostile toward them. But Ushome angers me sometimes with his underhanded tactics in this forum, and I get carried away since I don't feel like he deserves that same promise from me anymore.....
Anyway, I had fun with the first half. Second half commentary (sarcasm returns, btw).
- Directed panspermia. A fun theory, vaguely scientific. Aliens bringing life to earth. He enjoys destroying it as the straw man that it is, but then of course reverts to form and inserts god as the only other answer. Clearly he isn't versed with anything done in the past 25 years toward testing for the creation of the basic building blocks of life in earth's primordial atmosphere. I'll cite them if anyone's interested, since I don't want to be accused of saying things without evidence. His probability equations suffer from similar flaws, and the misunderstanding of natural selection that leads many people to see it as impossible (it is far from it).
- Thermodynamics again. Sheesh. Hasn't he read an evolution text in the past 50 years?! And of course, the only way to reconcile the law (to him) is the Bible's explanation. Not only was this dealt with, but it was explained a long time ago by a testable (and since confirmed) source.
- Bible as literal science again. Though he has to mire through metaphor in order to produce a ridiculous interpretation of passages to match our known history.
- Lulz at the "test" for creationism. It's a test to try to disprove evolution, which is what all creation "science" is. Ah, wait, maybe not....It attempts to find the point at which Adam and Eve were created. Yeah. Also, let's be clear, he is talking here about a variation on young earth creationism....Bible as literal fact, not metaphor, and is even further toward the extreme than ID. No one but the most religiously-blinded should ever listen to this man. He's a waste of time.
- Part of his "scientific" way that his theory could be falsified (which all science needs) is that if science showed that humans don't have "spirit attributes," and his other criteria actually have little to do with disproving a Christian god. The analogical gap between, say, the anthropic principle and believing the specifically Christian god are monumental.
- He ends by saying there's no reason for hostility in these debates. I disagree. When one pushes religious dogmatic faith as science, and perverts actual science, we should all be fearful and upset. This man, by the sounds of it, would not be opposed to handing out Bibles in classrooms. Creationists, IDers, crazy people....believe what you want, teach it to your kids, whatever. Just don't try to push your beliefs on the public.
Originally posted by ushomefreeI have asked you to post the specific sections that you would like me to comment on, I don't think that is to much to ask for. You want an answer then ask a question. The same can be said to you, have you read the books that Digi and others have posted for you and others to read? If not then you are doing the same that you are accusing others of. tick-for-tat. 😉
See... this goes back to the core of my statement(s). If you have not watched the entire presentation, for lack of a better word, "Shut the f--k up!" You have no opinion worth interpreting.
Originally posted by ushomefree
And you have said nothing.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
But it makes people so brave and tuff 😄
Yeah, on the internet 40 something graphic designers suddenly become huge musclebound monsters that thrive on pain. Who knew?
On a completely tangiental note how much does a graphic designer make on average? I'm writing a story and looking for a realistic figure.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, on the internet 40 something graphic designers suddenly become huge musclebound monsters that thrive on pain. Who knew?On a completely tangiental note how much does a graphic designer make on average? I'm writing a story and looking for a realistic figure.
So, are we done with this thread? 😉
...and can we talk about your story? 😄
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos😆 You got me 😆
Yeah, on the internet 40 something graphic designers suddenly become huge musclebound monsters that thrive on pain. Who knew?On a completely tangiental note how much does a graphic designer make on average? I'm writing a story and looking for a realistic figure.
As for your question what type of designer? Web, corporate, small business, logo designer? I can give you a better answer but it is about 40 to 90 a year, most make between 40 to 60 a year.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, are we done with this thread? 😉...and can we talk about your story? 😄
Dunno, what's your position on BDSM?
Originally posted by Da Pittman
😆 You got me 😆As for your question what type of designer? Web, corporate, small business, logo designer? I can give you a better answer but it is about 40 to 90 a year, most make between 40 to 60 a year.
The character is a web designer but even the 40 to 60 is more than accurate enough.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosIf he just designs the site and doesn't build it then that would be in the range, if he builds it like I do then you would want to go more of the 60 to 90 range depending on the type of build.
The character is a web designer but even the 40 to 60 is more than accurate enough.
Ushome -
Lulz at the large font and angry tirades. You sound like you're about 12 with your recent comments. Grow a spine and realize that discussions go in different directions once a thread is made, and not everyone is willing to watch an hour-long presentation....yet they still have the right to post, and you CERTAINLY don't have the right to tell anyone to shut the *f* up.
Anyway, you accuse us that no one watched the video then get mad at me when I tell you that I did and I refer you to my earlier comments. Not really sure how you'd be pleased in this situation, but I'm thrilled that you're going off the hook for no apparent reason. In any case, they've been reposted since you initially asked, but is it really so hard to browse 2-3 pages for my posts?
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To others: I really want to start making my own threads in this forum for a change, only because we end up spending 90% of our time explaining why the latest creationist on youtube is wrong. It's enough to turn me off from the forum...but at the same time, there's more intelligent pursuits to be had than this endless bickering. So if anyone has any good ideas, I'd encourage you to either bump old threads or post new topics so that we finally have something different to discuss. If I think of anything, I'll follow my own advice, but as of right now I've been drawing a blank for a week or two.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Lulz at the large font and angry tirades. You sound like you're about 12 with your recent comments. Grow a spine and realize that discussions go in different directions once a thread is made, and not everyone is willing to watch an hour-long presentation....yet they still have the right to post, and you CERTAINLY don't have the right to tell anyone to shut the *f* up.
My thread was posted to comment of a "specific" video presentation! When members of the forum chose not to watch the video presentation--and still make comments about the video they never watched--their points are shortsighted, not to mention ignorant! It ain't rocket-science material to grasp my point.
But yes, telling members of the forum to "Shut the f--k up," was (and is) totally uncalled for; I lost my cool.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Anyway, you accuse us that no one watched the video then get mad at me when I tell you that I did and I refer you to my earlier comments. Not really sure how you'd be pleased in this situation, but I'm thrilled that you're going off the hook for no apparent reason.
Digi... you never watched the entire video. Be honest.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
In any case, they've been reposted since you initially asked, but is it really so hard to browse 2-3 pages for my posts?
Easy for you to say; never, in any thread, has the entire forum been against you! Moreover, tracking back to previous pages does not end the former! The replies are posted like clock-work. It is too much to manage.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
To others: I really want to start making my own threads in this forum for a change, only because we end up spending 90% of our time explaining why the latest creationist on youtube is wrong. It's enough to turn me off from the forum...but at the same time, there's more intelligent pursuits to be had than this endless bickering.
Oh... I agree with bickering; no doubt.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
So if anyone has any good ideas, I'd encourage you to either bump old threads or post new topics so that we finally have something different to discuss. If I think of anything, I'll follow my own advice, but as of right now I've been drawing a blank for a week or two.
Right... all this over a video I posted. Amazing!
C'mon Digi! You haven't said one remark about the video "itself!!"