Originally posted by DigiMark007
Seems unlike him to me too, but the fact is it didn't phase street-levelers, so there's no rational way Thor felt more than a tingle.
Surfer by his feats alone is far and away superior to Thor, he just lacks the fanbase and appeal of Thor (and of course the very enduring appeal of Norse mythology) to allow him to be shown in proper relation to Thor, imo.
Originally posted by janus77Uhm he lost to wm Thor in this series. Case closed. He would lose again.
and the fact is that Surfer's power is shown to be sufficient for him to easily withstand a pretty angry Hulk's attacks, something Thor (WM or not) has never managed to do. so for Surfer to say that Thor's more powerful would be just as obviously false.Surfer by his feats alone is far and away superior to Thor, he just lacks the fanbase and appeal of Thor (and of course the very enduring appeal of Norse mythology) to allow him to be shown in proper relation to Thor, imo.
Originally posted by The Great GalenSurfer isnt as powerful as you think he is. Thor is a bad matchup for him. While I think Surfer can beat regular Thor this wm Thor was too much for Norrin to beat. This Thor was an animal. An animal I tellz ya.
Surfer fights Thor the sameway he fights thanos....completly leaving behind sense and rational thinking. Honestly I never quite understood why SS never oneshotted Thor.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombSurfer had him pinned on the ground while Thor couldn't do shit all. Surfer stopped attacking him, and the fight stopped, and Thor grabbed Mjolnir that Surfer had previously knocked out of his hand.
When? In that fight with Loki he did not beat Thor. Thor admitted that he was holding back and not even fighting, and Surfer couldn't even beat Thor there.
Thor never said he was holding back, and he was fighting back.
Surfer's comments don't match what was on panel, and you're smoking crack if you think Thor won that fight.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Surfer had him pinned on the ground while Thor couldn't do shit all. Surfer stopped attacking him, and the fight stopped, and Thor grabbed Mjolnir that Surfer had previously knocked out of his hand.Thor never said he was holding back, and he was fighting back.
Surfer's comments don't match what was on panel, and you're smoking crack if you think Thor won that fight.
I have scans of that fight I'd love to show you where Surfer (I meant Surfer originally not Thor) admits that Thor knew about what was going on and was Holding back.
Also, Thor overcomes Surfer's power and breaks Mjolnir free with one hit. Surfer was amazed.
And also, Surfer admits in that fight That Mjolnir ALONE is greater than his Power Cosmic.
And since Loki had combined his power with Surfer's, even if Surfer had won (which he didn't), you can't count it as a win for him.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombSurfer said Thor was holding back though, and obviously Surfer knows everything about Thor.
Well, since I'm new to this site I can't post links or pics
🙁I have scans of that fight I'd love to show you where Surfer (I meant Surfer originally not Thor) admits that Thor knew about what was going on and was Holding back.
Also, Thor overcomes Surfer's power and breaks Mjolnir free with one hit. Surfer was amazed.
And also, Surfer admits in that fight That Mjolnir ALONE is greater than his Power Cosmic.
And since Loki had combined his power with Surfer's, even if Surfer had won (which he didn't), you can't count it as a win for him.
Ya, I know. However, this is where Thor loses. And Thor does lose.
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Pretty irrelevant when Surfer won that encounter, isn't it?
Even though details are explainable, Surfer won that fight, which you previously said he lost, and that's all that matters.
You could. Surfer has gotten multiple upgrades since that fight (3), and he was depowered by the sonic shark previously. Either way though, Thor did not win.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistThor wasn't fighting!! 😆
Surfer said Thor was holding back though, and obviously Surfer knows everything about Thor.
Actually Surfer made an assumption that Thor was holding back. Is this truth enough?Ya, I know. However, this is where Thor loses. And Thor does lose.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1812/silversurferv1004p041co8.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6692/silversurferv1004p042ul2.jpgPretty irrelevant when Surfer won that encounter, isn't it?
Even though details are explainable, Surfer won that fight, which you previously said he lost, and that's all that matters.You could. Surfer has gotten multiple upgrades since that fight (3), and he was depowered by the sonic shark previously. Either way though, Thor did not win.
Sure Surfer was able to knock Thor down for a second, but Thor busted through (with just his strength alone) Surfer's shield on Mjolnir which Surfer said he couldn't.
Surfer, with his own power has never beaten Thor. This fight with Loki/Surfer, I still count as a win For Thor because Thor wasn't even fighting and made Surfer admit he was weaker.
Sure I guess in terms of Pure fighting Thor didn't win because he wasnt fighting, but it certainly wasn't a win for Surfer, if anything it made him look worse.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombIs that why he kept throwing his hammer at Surfer? And he didn't get a chance anyway, because Surfer was too fast for him.
THOR WASN'T FIGHTING!! 😆
Surfer was amped with Loki's Power and he admitted Thor was holding back.Sure Surfer was able to knock Thor down for a second, but Thor busted through (with just his strength alone) Surfer's shield on Mjolnir which Surfer said he couldn't.
Surfer, with his own power has never beaten Thor. This fight with Loki/Surfer, I still count as a win For Thor because Thor wasn't even fighting and made Surfer admit he was weaker.
Sure I guess in terms of Pure fighting Thor didn't win because he wasnt, but it certainly wasn't a win for Surfer, if anything it made him look worse.
No he didn't. Thor was knocked on his stomach crawling for Mjolnir after Surfer stopped hitting him.
He broke Surfer's 'cosmic blast' that Surfer hastily threw up to separate the two. He later separated them by blasting the shit out of Thor.
OK. You still added it in, and said Thor won, which he didn't. You brought it up, not me.
Thor was fighting, and Surfer's comment doesn't even make sense. As he said:
"I have seen his mallet's magic! It is truly mightier than my cosmic force!"
Did he see the magic when Thor's strength broke through the shield, or did he see it when Thor's hammer kept missing him?
No it didn't. And you're counting a 'personality' victory as a win, rather than the actual fight.
That's a horrible way to go about it, especially when Thor was dropped.
Nothing you can say makes me think Surfer won. He was AMPED by Loki and Still admitted Thor was holding back. End of story.
Don't get me wrong, I thin Current Surfer could probably beat or win as many times as Classic Thor if they fought, MAYBE even win a slim majority.
But just based off of their comic fights alone, Thor uses his head/powers better than Surfer and until Surfer actually wins a legitimate fight against Thor, I'll have to say Thor wins.
And Thor has The Odinforce now! If they fought Now Thor would utterly own Surfer.
Look, don't misunderstand where I'm coming from, I think that Surfer jobbed in that Loki/Surfer vs Thor fight. I think classic Thor vs classic Surfer is a little in favor of Thor, and Classic Thor vs Current Surfer is even, if not in favor of Surfer. I like both characters, but Thor has the better record between them.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombAnd Thor is WM in this thread. 🙂
And Thor has The Odinforce now! If they fought Now Thor would utterly own Surfer.Look, don't misunderstand where I'm coming from, I think that Surfer jobbed in that Loki/Surfer vs Thor fight. I think classic Thor vs classic Surfer is a little in favor of Thor, and Classic Thor vs Current Surfer is even, if not in favor of Surfer. I like both characters, but Thor has the better record between them.
No he didn't. Surfer was weakened by the sonic shark earlier in his stay on Earth and it lasted until a little bit after his fight with Thor.
And besides, Surfer back then was not as fast as he is now, and he still showed us that he can beat Thor using speed/power. Thor couldn't hit him.
