Originally posted by SmashBro
1. Goro is stronger than both of them.#2: *snip*
3. Nope. He didn't self-destruct. Look at the endings again.
4. *snip*
5. It was speculation.
6. Based on the fact that he's been training fighters for centuries and knows many different styles. And Ryu has never done anything after his training with Ryu so what you say is pure speculation. Ryu has never been shown to rip someone's body in half or blow some up with a hadouken.
#1: Err... not... Not considering Gouki's major feats are physical atttacks of such proportions that Goro could never hope to match.
#3: Yes, he did, In almost every instance where Bison was destroyed, it was due to his own power overloading him, for instance, Roses ending was his own power blowing him away, BUT, lets say for example, Ken's ending, or Sakura's, or Ryu's.. We see the strike landing on Bison, but in everyt single one, even in Akuma's ending, we see Bison swell from the inside, thats his Psycho power freeing itself from the mortal shell, hence the blue flames incinerating him.
#5: The Tenma Kuujin Kuyaku redirects the angle Gouki's body travels in the air, and can do it from quite a height.
#6: Name one person who has survived being hit with a Shinkuu Hadoukem or even a Shankunetsu Hadouken... Regular Hadoukens are survivable, but immolation ones? or big beams? Forget it...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
#1: Err... not... Not considering Gouki's major feats are physical atttacks of such proportions that Goro could never hope to match.#3: Yes, he did, In almost every instance where Bison was destroyed, it was due to his own power overloading him, for instance, Roses ending was his own power blowing him away, BUT, lets say for example, Ken's ending, or Sakura's, or Ryu's.. We see the strike landing on Bison, but in everyt single one, even in Akuma's ending, we see Bison swell from the inside, thats his Psycho power freeing itself from the mortal shell, hence the blue flames incinerating him.
#5: The Tenma Kuujin Kuyaku redirects the angle Gouki's body travels in the air, and can do it from quite a height.
#6: Name one person who has survived being hit with a Shinkuu Hadoukem or even a Shankunetsu Hadouken... Regular Hadoukens are survivable, but immolation ones? or big beams? Forget it...
1. Physical feats involving special techniques, that is.
3. Umm...in Akuma's ending, it Akuma himself who destroyed Bison, not the psycho power.
5. But still, the said height was never stated.
I'm a huge Ryu fan but I have to disagree with some of the arguments here :
"Lui Kang has never taken punches from someone who is a strong as Ryu"....I'm pretty sure Goro, Kintaro etc. will be able to lift the same builder Ryu lifted with ease.
"Lui Kang has never faught someone as powerful as Gouki"....erm, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn ? Tsung might not be able to sink an island or split that damn mountain everyone keeps babbling about , but these people are sorcerers and they consume souls for a living...different kind of power...
Having said all that, I think Ryu would beat Kang but with some difficulty.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. No he isn't. Not be feats anyway. Being big, tall, and muscular does not cut it.
1. Goro is stronger than both of them.2. No there weren't.
3. Nope. He didn't self-destruct. Look at the endings again.
4. No I didn't.
5. It was speculation.
6. Based on the fact that he's been training fighters for centuries and knows many different styles. And Ryu has never done anything after his training with Ryu so what you say is pure speculation. Ryu has never been shown to rip someone's body in half or blow some up with a hadouken.
2. Yes they were.
3. According to official sources he did.
4. Yes, you really did, hell, you are still doing it.
5. No, it is called an estimate you dumb prick.
6. Kay. So? Being trained by someone doesn't mean you are as skilled, and BRC has never really shown this exceptional skill you speak of. Ryu fought that half red half blue dude if memory serves me right(I honestly don't remember his name), who could control fire and ice and rain meteors. What I am saying is not pure friggin speculation. Ryu can lift over 20 tons and support it during training in CANON, and this was near the start of his training. So what? For some reason he can't use his clearly superior strength in a fight? Are you a friggin idiot? Don't bother answering that, I already know the answer. Ryu never break anyone in half or blow someone up with a Hadouken? You wanna know what the reason for that probably is? Maybe cause he doesn't KILL people? Ever thought of that? He has a strength feat that FAR surpasses ripping someone in half you ignorant dumbass, of course he could rip someone in half if he wanted to.
Originally posted by SmashBroGoro has never even shown strength feats on par with Ryu's. Let alone Gouki's(lifting a submarine).
1. Physical feats involving special techniques, that is.3. Umm...in Akuma's ending, it Akuma himself who destroyed Bison, not the psycho power.
5. But still, the said height was never stated.
2. Different situation. Shun Goku no Satsu attacks the soul, sends it to hell, where it is tortured by demons.
3. No, but it can be estimated.
Smashbro, how old are you?
Originally posted by Jayct1. Not by feats. I can speculate Gouki can destroy the friggin planet with a punch, but I don't do it.
I'm a huge Ryu fan but I have to disagree with some of the arguments here :"Lui Kang has never taken punches from someone who is a strong as Ryu"....I'm pretty sure Goro, Kintaro etc. will be able to lift the same builder Ryu lifted with ease.
"Lui Kang has never faught someone as powerful as Gouki"....erm, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn ? Tsung might not be able to sink an island or split that damn mountain everyone keeps babbling about , but these people are sorcerers and they consume souls for a living...different kind of power...
Having said all that, I think Ryu would beat Kang but with some difficulty.
2. Shang Tsung or Shao Kahn have not one feat to rival Gouki's best. Gouki has soul attacks too you know.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No he isn't. Not be feats anyway. Being big, tall, and muscular does not cut it.2. Yes they were.
3. According to official sources he did.
4. Yes, you really did, hell, you are still doing it.
5. No, it is called an estimate you dumb prick.
6. Kay. So? Being trained by someone doesn't mean you are as skilled, and BRC has never really shown this exceptional skill you speak of. Ryu fought that half red half blue dude if memory serves me right(I honestly don't remember his name), who could control fire and ice and rain meteors. What I am saying is not pure friggin speculation. Ryu can lift over 20 tons and support it during training in CANON, and this was near the start of his training. So what? For some reason he can't use his clearly superior strength in a fight? Are you a friggin idiot? Don't bother answering that, I already know the answer. Ryu never break anyone in half or blow someone up with a Hadouken? You wanna know what the reason for that probably is? Maybe cause he doesn't KILL people? Ever thought of that? He has a strength feat that FAR surpasses ripping someone in half you ignorant dumbass, of course he could rip someone in half if he wanted to.
1. Having enough strength to rip someone in half does.
2. No there weren't.
3. And what are these official sources.
4. No I'm not. Stop lying. I don't overrate MK just as you overrate SF.
5. No, it's called speculation. Stop being childish.
6. YOU brought up the training issue in the first, now you're saying it doesn't matter? Also, I'm not saying Ryu can't use that kind of strength but to think that alone means Ryu wins is nonsense, considering the fact he still doesn't actually demonstrate this kind of strength. Oh Ryu doesn't kill people, is that why you were trying to argue that his Hadouken can blow somebody up? And please, lifting a boulder>ripping somebody's body. 🙄 Say anything to suit your bias needs.
And stop with the insults, unless you wanna get reported.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Goro has never even shown strength feats on par with Ryu's. Let alone Gouki's(lifting a submarine).2. Different situation. Shun Goku no Satsu attacks the soul, sends it to hell, where it is tortured by demons.
3. No, but it can be estimated.
Smashbro, how old are you?
1. As if Ryu has ever demonstrated his strength in a fight the way Goro has. 🙄
2. So Bison didn't self-destruct.
3. How?
How old I am is none of your business.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. Shang Tsung or Shao Kahn have not one feat to rival Gouki's best. Gouki has soul attacks too you know.
Which definitely doesn't rival Shao Kahn's.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. And that feat does not come close to lifting 20 tons, or in Gouki's case, lifting over 100 tons(the ship).
1. Having enough strength to rip someone in half does.2. No there weren't.
3. And what are these official sources.
4. No I'm not. Stop lying. I don't overrate MK just as you overrate SF.
5. No, it's called speculation. Stop being childish.
6. YOU brought up the training issue in the first, now you're saying it doesn't matter? Also, I'm not saying Ryu can't use that kind of strength but to think that alone means Ryu wins is nonsense, considering the fact he still doesn't actually demonstrate this kind of strength. Oh Ryu doesn't kill people, is that why you were trying to argue that his Hadouken can blow somebody up? And please, lifting a boulder>ripping somebody's body. 🙄 Say anything to suit your bias needs.
And stop with the insults, unless you wanna get reported.
2. Yes, there were. 🙂
3. Different guides, can't remember which specific one says this. DSZ, which one said that?
4. I'm not lying silly boy. You overrate MK far more than I do SF, cause when I talk about SF, I use facts.
5. No it isn't. It is an estimation.
6. I brought up training cause Oro, who has feats, was training him. Bai Rai Cho has none. He doesn't demonstrate that kinda strength? Dude...He demonstrated it by lifting the boulders. 😬
I never said RYU'S Hadouken can do it, Gouki's, sure.
Lifting 20 tons is a MUCH greater feat than ripping someone in half.
Originally posted by SmashBro1. He has demonstrated much more strength than Goro, who has only lifted men who were at best 500 pounds and thrown them, and punched people far away. Ryu threw Gouki an impressive distance if you remember.
1. As if Ryu has ever demonstrated his strength in a fight the way Goro has. 🙄2. So Bison didn't self-destruct.
3. How?
How old I am is none of your business.
Which definitely doesn't rival Shao Kahn's.
2. Not in that ending, no. His soul died.
3. By judging the distance with my eyes...
I would seriously like to know.
4. No, but his other feats crush all of Shao Kahn's others.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. And that feat does not come close to lifting 20 tons, or in Gouki's case, lifting over 100 tons(the ship).2. Yes, there were. 🙂
3. Different guides, can't remember which specific one says this. DSZ, which one said that?
4. I'm not lying silly boy. You overrate MK far more than I do SF, cause when I talk about SF, I use facts.
5. No it isn't. It is an estimation.
6. I brought up training cause Oro, who has feats, was training him. Bai Rai Cho has none. He doesn't demonstrate that kinda strength? Dude...He demonstrated it by lifting the boulders. 😬
I never said RYU'S Hadouken can do it, Gouki's, sure.
Lifting 20 tons is a MUCH greater feat than ripping someone in half.
1. Lifting 20 tons ain't squat compared to ripping a body in half. And Akuma didn't "lift" the ship. Afterall, I thought you said Ryu was his equal. Well so much for that. 😆
2. No there weren't.
4. So do I but unlike you, I don't make stuff up, like saying the Hadouken can make craters.
5. No it isn't. It's speculation.
6. Just to let you know, Bo Rai Cho isn't weak and rather his feats are impressive than Oro's or not doesn't change the fact that he's more skilled than he is more skilled Oro. And Ryu doesn't demonstrate that kind of strength while FIGHTING.
Ripping a body in half is a MUCH greater feat than lifting 20 tons.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. He has demonstrated much more strength than Goro, who has only lifted men who were at best 500 pounds and thrown them, and punched people far away. Ryu threw Gouki an impressive distance if you remember.2. Not in that ending, no. His soul died.
3. By judging the distance with my eyes...
I would seriously like to know.
4. No, but his other feats crush all of Shao Kahn's others.
1. And Gouki isn't even 500 pounds.
2. And he didn't in some of the other endings either.
3. Which is not a confirmation.
Well too bad.
4. Still, none of his abilities come close to Shao Kahn's best.