Not Knowing the Answer?

Started by Symmetric Chaos6 pages
Originally posted by ushomefree
Level with me; help me understand.
Originally posted by ushomefree
I doubt, that you have confused anyone.

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Originally posted by ushomefree
A powerful statement again! But you need to put things into perspective, young man. The end of this quote, leaves the audience uninformed. Communicating with persons who agree with you is one thing. Perhaps, elaboration is not necessary? You need to think about other members of the forum when make such statements. This quote, should have been followed with: "For example...."

The concept that people need meaning in life is extremely simple and does not need elaboration whether one agrees or not. You come across as unable or unwilling to address his point.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Don't you understand, that all man, have "bias" views? And that, it is only the will of man to control them, in order to be as objective as possible? Naturalists are not Saints and/or victims! I understand your point; but it applies to all man, regardless of views. Humans are humans!

He said that.

Thank you, "Da Pittman!"

You're welcome

-- Da Pittman

wounded2

Didz ur hed asplode?

For whatever reason, Da Pittman is not available for comment; for all I know, he is out with a hotty or playing Bingo. You have participated in this thread extensively. Perhaps, you can post your main point (and we can continue from there)?

I was not trying to sharp-shoot Da Pittman or Symmetric Chaos. Point is, my questions, comments, and/or concerns were directed towards Da Pittman; he made the statments, not Symmetric Chaos. And yet, Symmetric Chaos felt the need to offer his opinion--which is cool, by the way! But, he spoke "over" Da Pittman. For whatever reason, he--Da Pittman--is not available, and either is Symmetric Chaos. Can anyone on the forum (who shares the views of Da Pittman and Symmetric Chaos) bring me up to speed on things, simply by presenting their primary point?

C'mon guys... what's up?

Originally posted by ushomefree
C'mon guys... what's up?
chuck norris. in every direction you can look.

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Originally posted by ushomefree
For whatever reason, Da Pittman is not available for comment; for all I know, he is out with a hotty or playing Bingo. You have participated in this thread extensively. Perhaps, you can post your main point (and we can continue from there)?

Add him as a friend and we will see when he is on.

Originally posted by ushomefree
C'mon guys... what's up?

This was posted 4 minutes after the previous post of yours. It's a discussion board, not a chat room. Did you really expect a response by then?

Also, you sound high.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
This was posted 4 minutes after the previous post of yours. It's a discussion board, not a chat room. Did you really expect a response by then?

Also, you sound high.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
eat I can't wait.

Quantum Quackery: Physics, Metaphysics, and Flapdoodle by Dr. Victor J. Stenger, physicist.

That's the particular lecture I heard, and it's probably google-able. It's good, but there's plenty of other legitimate places where one can seek information as to how quantum mechanics don't justify most (or any) supernatural beliefs, despite the myriad attempts to do so.

There are those who do try to justify the supernatural with QM. But even the "conscientious" transcendent maps will point out why this is wrong. Basically, it collapses the reality hierarchy: it confuses the deep structure of the physical world with the overall Big Picture.

Originally posted by Mindship
There are those who do try to justify the supernatural with QM. But even the "conscientious" transcendent maps will point out why this is wrong. Basically, it collapses the reality hierarchy: it confuses the deep structure of the physical world with the overall Big Picture.

And that is what some people are trying to do. 😉

QM is great for pseudo-science and paranormalists, because a lot of people know a little bit about science and physics...enough to feel a sort of privileged enlightenment trying to find connections between science and spiritualism, but they don't know enough to debunk such claims as the nonsense that they are.

Even I, and othes like me, can say I don't believe in it, but part of it is an appeal to authority and knowing where to look for proper scientific answers, because my own limited knowledge on the subject isn't nearly enough to debunk such claims alone. Though in having to debate quantum exploitationists, one does start to become versed in most of the basic principles, and ways in which QM is normally perverted to serve the beliefs of others. The most common being the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM, in which we "decide" the outcome of quantum superpositions by observing them....and thus is such alleged telekinetic prowess pushed to serve all sorts of nonsensical beliefs.

Firstly...

Originally posted by inimalist
Why would god do X?
Because I'm just that good.

Now onto the question at hand...

(Putting aside the fact that I'm of the general opinion people en masse are stupid and that such stupidity derived from organized religionism results in idiotic opinions like cdesign propentsism which undoubtedly this thread as all others will degenerate into)

There are in my opinion three general approaches to questions that at some point have seemed unanswerable... why is the sky blue, what makes apples fall... the inquisitive, the complacent and the apprehensive.

The inquisitive seek actual answers using my beloved empirical method, while the complacent don't really care as long as apples keep falling and the sky remains blue. Meanwhile the apprehensive afraid the blue sky will one day fall, pray to a false god to keep holding it up, in hopes that piety will cleanse them of alien Body Thetans so that one day their own Thetan will be lead back to the parallel Theta Universe.

Telling people to hurry up and respond from Mr "Hold one... let me get back to this." ...you can call me Sir Lulzalot.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Firstly... Because I'm just that good.

Now onto the question at hand...

(Putting aside the fact that I'm of the general opinion people en masse are stupid and that such stupidity derived from organized religionism results in idiotic opinions like cdesign propentsism which undoubtedly this thread as all others will degenerate into)

There are in my opinion three general approaches to questions that at some point have seemed unanswerable... why is the sky blue, what makes apples fall... the inquisitive, the complacent and the apprehensive.

The inquisitive seek actual answers using my beloved empirical method, while the complacent don't really care as long as apples keep falling and the sky remains blue. Meanwhile the apprehensive afraid the blue sky will one day fall, pray to a false god to keep holding it up, in hopes that piety will cleanse them of alien Body Thetans so that one day their own Thetan will be lead back to the parallel Theta Universe.

Telling people to hurry up and respond from Mr "Hold one... let me get back to this." ...you can call me Sir Lulzalot.

lmao

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And that is what some people are trying to do. 😉
Indeed. But even some well-intentioned and very intelligent people mistakenly make this call (or at least, allude to it). Fritjof Capra comes to mind.