Superman and Darkseid vs Thanos

Originally posted by jadervason
Isn't the Earth 65 trillion tons alone? Pre Crisis Superman could move it.

I never said pre crisis superman couldnt move it, Im referring to current superman. Pre crisis index finger could move trillions of tons but I have yet to see superman lift that. It was stated that hulk was lifting 50 trillion tons, it cant get no clearer then that. Majority of the strength feats that is put up for superman appears to be nothing but flight strength. I want to see some scans of him standing on both feet.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated that hulk was lifting 50 trillion tons, it cant get no clearer then that.

Originally posted by fangirl101
superman turned the wheels of mageddon. pushed warworld against it's engines. hulk is never far stronger than superman. and one shotting someone has nothing to do with thier strength but thier durability. and hulk for sure is NO WHERE NEAR superman's durability.

Where was the strength that was calculated when he was turning the wheel of mageddon and who says that the hulk couldnt repeat the same feat, I actually think that he could since he is stronger then superman.

Yeah, he sure did push war world but he sure as hell was sun dipped while doing this feat and then he was still struggling to that in the beginning. Nice feat though but that is something that I think a full confident gladiator could have done.

Im quite sure hulk durability is= to or greater then superman. Superman has been one shotted to many times to say that he is more durable then the hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said pre crisis superman couldnt move it, Im referring to current superman. Pre crisis index finger could move trillions of tons but I have yet to see superman lift that. It was stated that hulk was lifting 50 trillion tons, it cant get no clearer then that. Majority of the strength feats that is put up for superman appears to be nothing but flight strength. I want to see some scans of him standing on both feet.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
When was this?

Im sorry, it was 50 billion tons. Kind of sleepy but here ya go, this actually happened in the comic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image😖upporting_a_mountain_and_destroying_Onslaught.jpg

If he can push something in midair, why the hell do you think he couldn't lift it standing on his feet?

It was 250 billion tons, and he was supporting it on his back after it was dropped on them from Molecule Man.

Fix your link though.

Originally posted by carver9
Im sorry, it was 50 billion tons. Kind of sleepy but here ya go, this actually happened in the comic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image😖upporting_a_mountain_and_destroying_Onslaught.jpg

Wait, I'll have to repost the link.

physics stops the feat from happening.
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the mountain dropped on the heroes weighed 150 billion tons, hulk braced it but the cption did state that he held 150 billion tons regardless.
mountains weigh more than that in total.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It was 250 billion tons, and he was supporting it on his back after it was dropped on them from Molecule Man.

He was lifting it not supporting it and even if he was supporting it (which he wasnt) I would still count that as a lifting feat since he way how much, a thousand pounds.

Now what is the highest strength feat that superman has lifted because by his bio it states that he can only lift 100,000 tons.

Originally posted by jadervason
If he can push something in midair, why the hell do you think he couldn't lift it standing on his feet?

because its a flight and durability feat that everyone on the forum have continously brought up. Rogue strength class is 50 tons but she has lifted way more then that due to her flight.

Originally posted by carver9
He was lifting it not supporting it and even if he was supporting it (which he wasnt) I would still count that as a lifting feat since he way how much, a thousand pounds.

Now what is the highest strength feat that superman has lifted because by his bio it states that he can only lift 100,000 tons.

Originally posted by carver9
because its a flight and durability feat that everyone on the forum have continously brought up. Rogue strength class is 50 tons but she has lifted way more then that due to her flight.

what the ****? your arm muscles would give out and turn to power if you didn't have the strength to keep them in place. it's a strength feat. flight is tied to strength. or else someone like ferro, who is indestructible, would just be able to push the earth since he has a legion flight ring. he just isn't that strong.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
strength doesn't allow him to move planets, thrust does.
think about it, superman will be doing a handstand on earth and in his attempts to "lift it" he will just be doing a push up, he has to push against it with his flight. even hulk can't feasibly lift anything aproaching a solar mass due to it's gravity, lifting it isn't possible.

I agree with you, thats why I said majority of superman strength feats are based on flight but it was actually 250 billion tons on top of hulk and he was standing just fine. I just asked for something similar from superman without him flying. Hulk is 20 times more stronger then superman and again even though its a crossover pre crisis superman himself admitted to this so I guess that superman writer and hulk writer both came to the conclusion that hulk was stronger.

Originally posted by fangirl101
um no. superman can lift trillions of tons.

proof and I want to see him standing on two feat.

Originally posted by fangirl101
what the ****? your arm muscles would give out and turn to power if you didn't have the strength to keep them in place. it's a strength feat. flight is tied to strength. or else someone like ferro, who is indestructible, would just be able to push the earth since he has a legion flight ring. he just isn't that strong.

How would your arms give out if you are durable as hell, thats impossible. Superman have admitted when he was pushing a da** ship that was the size of a state that he using his flight to help him move the ship. Even louis and lex stated the same thing and that wasnt the 1st and only time that superman admitted to this.

You guys are bonkers. If the thrust is being applied to the bottoms of his feet, he's holding a planet over his head.

That's not considering how fast he's moving it, he could very well be accelerating it at .1g's or 10g's.

which would mean one tenth of an Earth or 10 Earths over his head.

here superman catches a ship the size of the moon and tosses it. you telling me he tossed the ship with his thrust power from flight? when clearly all he is doing is bending his elbows.

moon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mountain.

i rest my case.

Originally posted by fangirl101

here superman catches a ship the size of the moon and tosses it. you telling me he tossed the ship with his thrust power from flight? when clearly all he is doing is bending his elbows.

moon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mountain.

i rest my case.

You know what, that would have been a great feat if it didnt happen in space where there is zero gravity.

HMMM, Im glad I brought that up, I wonder how far I could throw a baseball in space.

well, superman's bio has him at a lower lifting capacity than the hulk when on solid ground in a purely weight lifting contest.

superman's weight lifting strength is capped on earth at like 100,000 tons, whereas the hulk's lifting capacity is inapplicable, the only quantified weight was the 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. and king hulk is superior to even the hulk persona that made that feat.

superman able to utilize his flight to supplement the weight could lift or move planetary masses with extreme effort.