Superman and Darkseid vs Thanos

Originally posted by jadervason
You guys are bonkers. If the thrust is being applied to the bottoms of his feet, he's holding a planet over his head.

That's not considering how fast he's moving it, he could very well be accelerating it at .1g's or 10g's.

which would mean one tenth of an Earth or 10 Earths over his head.

How is the thrust applied to the bottom of his feet when there isnt anything at the bottom of his feet but air, dont make sense. Flight, durability is different then actual true strength.

Originally posted by carver9
You know what, that would have been a great feat if it didnt happen in space where there is zero gravity.

HMMM, Im glad I brought that up, I wonder how far I could throw a baseball in space.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, superman's bio has him at a lower lifting capacity than the hulk when on solid ground in a purely weight lifting contest.

superman's weight lifting strength is capped on earth at like 100,000 tons, whereas the hulk's lifting capacity is inapplicable, the only quantified weight was the 150,000,000,000 ton mountain. and king hulk is superior to even the hulk persona that made that feat.

superman able to utilize his flight to supplement the weight could lift or move planetary masses with extreme effort.

good post but a lot of people will disagree because they dont know the difference between flight feats and strength feats.

Originally posted by carver9
You know what, that would have been a great feat if it didnt happen in space where there is zero gravity.

HMMM, Im glad I brought that up, I wonder how far I could throw a baseball in space.

You have no concept of physics.

Originally posted by fangirl101
you obviously don't know about DENSITY. Inertia. Etc. The theory that an object at rest stays at rest. and one that is in motion stays in motion. k thanks. you have lost this round. he used his muscles to throw a DENSE HUMUNGOUS moon sized ship that was at rest, or moving in one direction, into a nother.

Show me a feat happening where there is gravity and I would totally agree with you but until then hulk is stronger. How the hell is superman going to throw something the size of a moon but need help after that scan from wonder woman and martian manhunter with moving a moon. Thats ridiculous. Again space helped him with that feat.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me a feat happening where there is gravity and I would totally agree with you but until then hulk is stronger. How the hell is superman going to throw something the size of a moon but need help after that scan from wonder woman and martian manhunter with moving a moon. Thats ridiculous. Again space helped him with that feat.

Originally posted by jadervason
You have no concept of physics.

Just show me something standing on two feat. That shouldnt be hard for a character that has been out for how many years.

I go downstairs for twenty minutes and it turns into a physics debate.

Originally posted by carver9
He was lifting it not supporting it and even if he was supporting it (which he wasnt) I would still count that as a lifting feat since he way how much, a thousand pounds.

Now what is the highest strength feat that superman has lifted because by his bio it states that he can only lift 100,000 tons.

Anyway, he was lifting it? Woah! Did they add onto the story in a Hulk comic or something? Because I only remember him supporting it.
You would count it as a lifting feat because he's light? What?

I don't know, I don't care. I'm not even going off the top of my head, because I just don't care.

Two questions:

What bio?

And

What is this supposed to mean? That bios hold weight?

Originally posted by fangirl101
you obviously don't know about TEAM BOOKS. it's the same reason thor can pwn a celestial on his own but in the avengers gets knocked around by ultron. please please, i can't take any more.

I guess you agree huh. Superman unable to even budge the moon by himself but he can throw something the size of the moon. Hell, even composite superman couldnt move the moon by himself, he needed help from wonder woman and martian,AGAIN. You do know that composite superman (blue superman) was stated as being one of the strongest supermen created. I kinda feel bad that he couldnt move that moon, huh.

Originally posted by carver9
Just show me something standing on two feat. That shouldnt be hard for a character that has been out for how many years.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Correction: 150.

Anyway, he was lifting it? Woah! Did they add onto the story in a Hulk comic or something? Because I only remember him supporting it.
You would count it as a lifting feat because he's light? What?

I don't know, I don't care. I'm not even going off the top of my head, because I just don't care.

Two questions:

What bio?

And

What is this supposed to mean? That bios hold weight?

I wish I have a scanner but its his latest bio and in the hulk comic the narrator states that hulk is lifting this weight over his head, not supporting it.

The bio holds more weight then anything that you all conjur up and hulk lifting over 1 billion tons over his head isnt the biggest strength feat that was quoted for hulk but that is something that I just wanted to use because it actually STATES the size that he was lifting, so its something that just cant be argued against.

Originally posted by fangirl101
the hulk DID NOT LIFT any mountains. he braced it. get that thru your skull. so we dont' know exactly how much he lifted. but bracing isn't a strength feat according to you. all he did was act like a human pole. his durability was as much into play as his strength. according to you. he didn't move his arms up and lift anything out of the way. he just stood there with the mountain on his back.
oh and superman precrisis stories are cannon. if you didn't now. thanks.

but the thing about it is his arms was holding the weight up and his body wasnt supporting anything and also the narrator stated that he was lifting this amount. It cant get any clearer then that. Now, again I ask, can you show me something quoting a strength feat for superman with him standing on two feat lifting it up. I'll give you a number and see if you can trump it 150,000 tons. Show me that and I'll leave you alone (even though thats still weigh below hulk).

Originally posted by carver9
but the thing about it is his arms was holding the weight up and his body wasnt supporting anything and also the narrator stated that he was lifting this amount. It cant get any clearer then that. Now, again I ask, can you show me something quoting a strength feat for superman with him standing on two feat lifting it up. I'll give you a number and see if you can trump it 150,000 tons. Show me that and I'll leave you alone (even though thats still weigh below hulk).

you really aren't worth the time. I just showed you superman tossing a ship the size of the moon. if you think space makes the feat easy, you go and toss something the size of the moon in space. you know NOTHING about physics and inertia. It is harder to move something at a high speed that is at rest, than to just brace against the partial weight of something. I tire of you. i won't be responding any more in this line of debate.

Originally posted by carver9
I wish I have a scanner but its his latest bio and in the hulk comic the narrator states that hulk is lifting this weight over his head, not supporting it.

The bio holds more weight then anything that you all conjur up and hulk lifting over 1 billion tons over his head isnt the biggest strength feat that was quoted for hulk but that is something that I just wanted to use because it actually STATES the size that he was lifting, so its something that just can be argued against.

No. I could conjure up some doozies. Using actual feats that override bios.

So, how come Superman can't have feats that are higher than what he was quoted...
Even using a bio that I haven't seen it.

So, it can be argued against? 😕

Originally posted by fangirl101
you really aren't worth the time. I just showed you superman tossing a ship the size of the moon. if you think space makes the feat easy, you go and toss something the size of the moon in space. you know NOTHING about physics and inertia. It is harder to move something at a high speed that is at rest, than to just brace against the partial weight of something. I tire of you. i won't be responding any more in this line of debate.

Im not trying to make you mad and I didnt say that the feat wasnt a good feat but it holds no weight because again how is he going to toss something the size of the moon when he couldnt move the moon in a comic years after that. Space and gravity had a lot to do with that. Answer this, if you traveled in space and there was some weights that weighed about 350 pounds but it was just floating around in space, do you think that you can budge it, do you even think that you'll be able to push it and make it float in a different direction. The thruster was busted on the ship so thats all superman had to do was push a ship that was basically floating there. Good feat but not as impressive as you make it.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Oh OK... because I could tell he was lifting it over his head by the way it was supported on his back.

No. I could conjure up some doozies. Using actual feats that override bios.

So, how come Superman can't have feats that are higher than what he was quoted...
Even using a bio that I haven't seen it.

So, it [b]can be argued against? 😕 [/B]

Well I promise you its something that isnt made up but I agree since I dont have a way to post it then if I was you I wouldnt agree either.

It wasnt supported on his back and the narrator specifically said that he was lifting it up.

Can you show me some superman feats of him lifting something while standing that could be higher then his bio. I asked for proof but there isnt any yet. Im also going to say that hulk is stronger then thanos since thanos also dont have any feats that put him above hulk. By the way marvel made a scale that put each character in sections of strength and hulk was put with celestial which was over thanos. Again I know its from a bio but hulk has the feat in comics and the feat from a bio to prove that he is stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
Well I promise you its something that isnt made up but I agree since I dont have a way to post it then if I was you I wouldnt agree either.

It wasnt supported on his back and the narrator specifically said that he was lifting it up.

Can you show me some superman feats of him lifting something while standing that could be higher then his bio. I asked for proof but there isnt any yet. Im also going to say that hulk is stronger then thanos since thanos also dont have any feats that put him above hulk. By the way marvel made a scale that put each character in sections of strength and hulk was put with celestial which was over thanos. Again I know its from a bio but hulk has the feat in comics and the feat from a bio to prove that he is stronger.

OK. So, what is Hulk's back called? Because it was being used to support the weight.

No, because I said I don't care. Can you understand that?

Oh, I would like to see this 'scale'. Can you provide it?
And the mere fact that they put Hulk in the scale of the Celestials reeks of bullshit. Unless Celestials are incredibly weak compared to their blasts.

And this is based off the fact that Thanos doesn't lift anything? And what does this have to do with Superman/Hulk comparisons, other than the fact that you seem to be baiting me? Or does Hulk jump into this thread and solo everybody?

Anyway, bed.

Listen, pal, the point is...force.

If he can push off of NOTHING and move the moon, I should think he can push off the ground and do the same.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya. I don't believe anything you say that's true ever since the last time Rorschach proved you wrong. Put up, or shut up.

OK. So, what is Hulk's back called? Because it was being used to support the weight.

No, because I said I don't care. Can you understand that?

Oh, I would like to see this 'scale'. Can you provide it?
And the mere fact that they put Hulk in the scale of the Celestials reeks of bullshit. Unless Celestials are incredibly weak compared to their blasts.

And this is based off the fact that Thanos doesn't lift anything? And what does this have to do with Superman/Hulk comparisons, other than the fact that you seem to be baiting me? Or does Hulk jump into this thread and solo everybody?

Anyway, bed.

😆

Why do you think that Im trying to bait you and why when people debate it always have to turn to something negative. I dont care about the trolling crap, spamming, or whatever other term that you all use, I just come on here every now and then and just give my opinion.

Rorschach never proved me wrong about anything, I enjoy debating with him because he's one of the few that gets flaming mad and he's one of the best debators on here but he havent proven anything yet.

Well as long as the narrator say that the hulk is lifting something then you shouldnt argue against it. It didnt say his back was lifting it, the narrator said that hulk was lifting it.

I understand that but if you are debating a character being stronger then another character at least show some proof. I think that hulk is on a different level then superman when it comes to strength.

A celestial dont have to be weak to be compared to someone in hulk caliber since hulk dont have a limit with his strength. Hulk strength is limitless and he proven this by beating someone physically that was stated as being equal to a celestial and this was onslaught. It was stated that onslaught strength and powers match a celestial but hulk proved that he was stronger then onslaught.

Its not that thanos dont lift anything but there is nothing to prove that thanos is even close to hulks strength except him beating up on a calm hulk.