Thanos & Darkseid Vs. All-Star Superman

Started by deadspeak258 pages

that's it? I realize this is a debate and you are not required to state/show anything other than your opinion, but if this were a court case and you didn't provide any evidence except you word to the contrary you would lose.

Like a blinding flash, there went his credibility as a debator.

Originally posted by deadspeak25
that's it? I realize this is a debate and you are not required to state/show anything other than your opinion, but if this were a court case and you didn't provide any evidence except you word to the contrary you would lose.
Thanos at his weakest while battling Drax destroyed an entire planet. He was resurrected and came back much more powerful. yet you bring me some feat with him sinking an island. Thanos also rapes the Surfer who can destroy an entire planet with ease.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Like a blinding flash, there went his credibility as a debator.
Most in here have agreed this is spite. Its beyond spite actually. It isnt close at all.

Uh, yeah spite AGAINST the team.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Uh, yeah spite AGAINST the team.
Ok. Thanos has beaten the Maker,raped the Surfer,fought Thor and the Thing at once(preresurrection a.k.a. at his weakest,fought thor with the power gem who was growing stronger by the second(This same Thor beat Dr Strange,Silver Surfer,and the Infinity watch together)while he only made Thanos nose bleed. Do you know who the Maker is?

Thanos also raped the Fallen One and mindraped him into being his own personal herald.

Do you know that Thanos has Darkseid on his side who can oneshot Superman if he has his omega beams at full power.

Thor, Thing, and Surfer are all around class 100 guys. They can lift about 100 tons. As I stated, All Star Superman can lift 3,000,000,000,000,000 tons with a single hand. Thanos has been bloodied by Gamora.
Theres a reason they are putting All Star Supes in its own continuity. The character is so powerful that it'd be stupid to have him face standard villains. I'll agree he is a dumb concept, but you have to get Superman vs Thanos out of your head and look at this particular character for what he is.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Thor, Thing, and Surfer are all around class 100 guys. They can lift about 100 tons. As I stated, All Star Superman can lift 3,000,000,000,000,000 tons with a single hand. Thanos has been bloodied by Gamora.
Theres a reason they are putting All Star Supes in its own continuity. The character is so powerful that it'd be stupid to have him face standard villains. I'll agree he is a dumb concept, but you have to get Superman vs Thanos out of your head and look at this particular character for what he is.
Huh? You act as if all fights have to do with strength alone...wrong. Surfer can augment his strength and with his power cosmic can shatter planets. Me posting a scan of him making an island sink isnt impressive with the said company in this thread.

Surfer cant hope to amp his strength to those levels. And what would you have liked? Supes smashing his arm against the rock and destroying the planet? That'd go over really well. Anyway you either cant process the number of 0's in that lifting feat, or your having a particularly blind Thanos day. Either way Im not debating this anymore, its pointless.

Okay well I'll give you a short synopsis. . .

Lex tries to bombard Sup with sunlight to cause havoc with his powers. Superman becomes supercharged more than tripling his strength (which as stated earlier he can no lift 200 quintillion tons of force, with one arm no less. And enabling him to extend his biometric aura (effectively creating force shields). He finds out that he is no longer effected by K-nite after being shot by Lios with a K-nite gun, and proves that his intellect has increased to unimaginable levels by creating an elixer that provides normal people with his powers (albiet for 24 hours). Speaking intellect he toward the later part of the series he creates life Earth-Q in the infant universe of Qwewq, and he somehow figures out how to combine kryptonian DNA with humans and passes that info along as well.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Surfer cant hope to amp his strength to those levels. And what would you have liked? Supes smashing his arm against the rock and destroying the planet? That'd go over really well. Anyway you either cant process the number of 0's in that lifting feat, or your having a particularly blind Thanos day. Either way Im not debating this anymore, its pointless.
I gave you Thanos feats that easily trumped the island sinking one. To each his own.

Originally posted by deadspeak25
Okay well I'll give you a short synopsis. . .

Lex tries to bombard Sup with sunlight to cause havoc with his powers. Superman becomes supercharged more than tripling his strength (which as stated earlier he can no lift 200 quintillion tons of force, with one arm no less. And enabling him to extend his biometric aura (effectively creating force shields). He finds out that he is no longer effected by K-nite after being shot by Lios with a K-nite gun, and proves that his intellect has increased to unimaginable levels by creating an elixer that provides normal people with his powers (albiet for 24 hours). Speaking intellect he toward the later part of the series he creates life Earth-Q in the infant universe of Qwewq, and he somehow figures out how to combine kryptonian DNA with humans and passes that info along as well.

He still loses badly.

A regular Superman beats Darkseid.

AS Superman wins here.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
A regular Superman beats Darkseid.

AS Superman wins here.

Agianst these two? Are you serious?

That wasnt a island, it was a bunch of standing rocks above the water.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Drax was created to kill Thanos. He changed recently with his latest resurrection. To put it plainly he was Thanos' kryptonite and no one else could replicate this feat.

Supes dies quickly.

Drax was created with the strength to kill Thanos, nothing more.
Drax isn't made out of some Thanos-like kryptonite or something.

If Thanos would be ffed up if a half million ton key fell on his head then what makes you think that All Star Superman, who can lift it like a feather and can move at speeds faster than light instantly, won't ko him in the first nanosecond?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has shields that Drax bypassed due to his special powers. Bet you didnt know that. He isnt breaking through his forceshields and if he did Thanos has survived a black hole,Thor,Odin,Maker,Galactus,etc.

Superman is faster than Thanos.
So he gets the first hit (which is deadly).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Most in here have agreed this is spite. Its beyond spite actually. It isnt close at all.

You're right. This is spite.

Superman wins this in one nanosecond.

Now close this.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Thor, Thing, and Surfer are all around class 100 guys. They can lift about 100 tons. As I stated, All Star Superman can lift 3,000,000,000,000,000 tons with a single hand. Thanos has been bloodied by Gamora.
Theres a reason they are putting All Star Supes in its own continuity. The character is so powerful that it'd be stupid to have him face standard villains. I'll agree he is a dumb concept, but you have to get Superman vs Thanos out of your head and look at this particular character for what he is.

Class 100 means that they lift at least 100 tons.

People keep bringing up that particular feat for AS Superman. As mentioned, Drax destroyed a planet in a fight with Thanos, but couldn't put the latter down. Do you understand how much mass a planet has? Earth is a small planet going by mean mass, and its mass is 6E^24kg. That is 6 zeroes more than what your feat has. Thus, a planet has 2000000 more mass than your feat, and that is with me taking one ton as 1000kg, when it is less.

More strength/power is needed to destroy a planet than to lift it. That is only logical -- I can lift a pebble, but cannot destroy it that easily.

Ergo, AS Superman really isn't that great.

Originally posted by h1a8
Drax was created with the strength to kill Thanos, nothing more.
Drax isn't made out of some Thanos-like kryptonite or something.

If Thanos would be ffed up if a half million ton key fell on his head then what makes you think that All Star Superman, who can lift it like a feather and can move at speeds faster than light instantly, won't ko him in the first nanosecond?

Andy Schimdt says otherwise.