truth is subjective, since the point of view is that of an individual. ofcourse, individuals have sumthing in common including basic human traist/nature and biases and well as intellect. hence there is a level to which the idea of subjectivity can be stretched before it starts sounding silly and untrue, coming from the mouth of a HUMAN. if you rent human and dont have the basic defining traits of humans, then ofcourse you may stretch is much farther from your subjective point of view.
To all KMC members-
For better or worse, I have never subscribed to the notion that truth is (or was) "subjective." Frankly, I am surprised that no one called me out on the act--playing devil's advocate! People... truth is "objective," not because it is convenient, but because it is necessary for man's survival, amongst other things. Traffic signals were formulated for a reason, and it ain't subjectivity. Truth is not determined by the eye of the beholder! A man will die, regardless of the fact, that he may think (and feel), that he is immortal. In any case, "if" truth were subjective, no one on the entire forum would have an argument. What's to talk about and/or debate?! Truth is subjective; truth is determined by the eye of the beholder. All opinions/perspectives are utterly, completely valid. What a scary world, indeed.
Look slaw dawg, that was a terrible attempt to prove yourself right:
Truth is subjective. With the street light, yes I have an option to decide if I want to decide if it's "true" that I should stop. But since other people follow the road, I just made a decision to heighten the likely hood me getting hit by a car.
It is not a fact that all people will stop. Theoretically, if they know the system, they will stop but it's not 100 % guaranteed. Some people have been playing too much GTA IV.
Originally posted by ushomefree
To all KMC members-For better or worse, I have never subscribed to the notion that truth is (or was) "subjective." Frankly, I am surprised that no one called me out on the act--playing devil's advocate! People... truth is "objective," not because it is convenient, but because it is necessary for man's survival, amongst other things. Traffic signals were formulated for a reason, and it ain't subjectivity. Truth is not determined by the eye of the beholder! A man will die, regardless of the fact, that he may think (and feel), that he is immortal. In any case, "if" truth were subjective, no one on the entire forum would have an argument. What's to talk about and/or debate?! Truth is subjective; truth is determined by the eye of the beholder. All opinions/perspectives are utterly, completely valid. What a scary world, indeed.
You're an incredible idiot.
Truth is subjective. Facts remain objective. Debate is about how accurate the interpretation being made is. Worse for you, even if truth were an objective absolute it would still be unprovable and leave everyone in the same position.
Originally posted by ushomefree
To all KMC members-For better or worse, I have never subscribed to the notion that truth is (or was) "subjective." Frankly, I am surprised that no one called me out on the act--playing devil's advocate! People... truth is "objective," not because it is convenient, but because it is necessary for man's survival, amongst other things. Traffic signals were formulated for a reason, and it ain't subjectivity. Truth is not determined by the eye of the beholder! A man will die, regardless of the fact, that he may think (and feel), that he is immortal. In any case, "if" truth were subjective, no one on the entire forum would have an argument. What's to talk about and/or debate?! Truth is subjective; truth is determined by the eye of the beholder. All opinions/perspectives are utterly, completely valid. What a scary world, indeed.
Originally posted by ushomefree
I am going to bed now. Oh... wait... I'm not--oh wait, I am! Hmm... I guess I am, since truth is subjective. But I can never be sure; this is simply my truth (of the notion). Frustration, hello! Oh brother... I must not, must not, must not be "objective." Objectivity does not exist! Oh shoot... their I go... making an objective statement. Man, I really don't know what to believe. Oops... their I go again! Sheesh!! How foolish of me? Dare I question?!
Why should I talk to you?
Originally posted by ushomefree
To all KMC members-For better or worse, I have never subscribed to the notion that truth is (or was) "subjective." Frankly, I am surprised that no one called me out on the act--playing devil's advocate! People... truth is "objective," not because it is convenient, but because it is necessary for man's survival, amongst other things. Traffic signals were formulated for a reason, and it ain't subjectivity. Truth is not determined by the eye of the beholder! A man will die, regardless of the fact, that he may think (and feel), that he is immortal. In any case, "if" truth were subjective, no one on the entire forum would have an argument. What's to talk about and/or debate?! Truth is subjective; truth is determined by the eye of the beholder. All opinions/perspectives are utterly, completely valid. What a scary world, indeed.
You haven't read one thing since you first started spamming this thread, have you? You don't have the slightest grasp of what subjectivity really means, as is evidenced by any of your posts. Knock down your ridiculous straw man all you want. You haven't made one logically valid statement in this entire thread.
Also, devil's advocate?! No, that would be giving you too much credit. I called you what you are: a worthless troll. This is off-topic, sarcastic, baiting, and spam. It's also condescending, but we'll let that slide since it's not an overt insult.
It's just a pity my report wasn't attended to...means we have to put up with more of your crap.
Originally posted by ushomefree
To all KMC members-For better or worse, I have never subscribed to the notion that truth is (or was) "subjective." Frankly, I am surprised that no one called me out on the act--playing devil's advocate! People... truth is "objective," not because it is convenient, but because it is necessary for man's survival, amongst other things. Traffic signals were formulated for a reason, and it ain't subjectivity. Truth is not determined by the eye of the beholder! A man will die, regardless of the fact, that he may think (and feel), that he is immortal. In any case, "if" truth were subjective, no one on the entire forum would have an argument. What's to talk about and/or debate?! Truth is subjective; truth is determined by the eye of the beholder. All opinions/perspectives are utterly, completely valid. What a scary world, indeed.
dude, every1 knows you were acting for heaven;s sake. i was simply trying to call out the incorrectness in your sarcastic stance, which you were trying ot disredict the subjective nature of reality. reality IS subjective but all humans also have many things which are SIMILAR in their perspectives which form the basis of communication of ideas and symbolism. it also formulates the idea of {ideally} laws and general behaviour etc. people can argue on the things on which they are NOT similar but they will INEVITABLY have many basic things which ARE simmilar, without which they wudnt be human. also, learning has a great part to play in making us understand the commom meaning of ideas and words exchanged.
but do remember that this view is STILL subjective, as it holds ONLY for humans and not most other species or perhaps beings or sentiences which arent bound by the same basic concepts as us {i.e existance/self preservation/drive to be loved and love others/etc etc etc}.