Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I would have thought that Hellboy losed, but feats of his HF show that he could take lethal strikes from Wolverine, but its funny how those points were ignored.
Im not disagreeing with hellboy healing factor, he has an impressive healing factor but overrall wolverine is just to much for him and is just plain out better.
Im not saying this because wolverine has a better healing factor but I can just see hellboy as one of the people that wolverine usually fight and run through on occasions with a quick swipe to the head. I like hellboy, I love the character and the attitude that he has but I can see wolverine getting 10/10 and the fight last at least 3 to 5 minutes. Thats how much i think that wolverine is over hell boy. If wolverine didnt possess his claws in this fight then I can see this being more interesting (due to hellboys healing factor and durability) but in this match wolverine will over whelm him immediately.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not disagreeing with hellboy healing factor, he has an impressive healing factor but overrall wolverine is just to much for him and is just plain out better.Im not saying this because wolverine has a better healing factor but I can just see hellboy as one of the people that wolverine usually fight and run through on occasions with a quick swipe to the head. I like hellboy, I love the character and the attitude that he has but I can see wolverine getting 10/10 and the fight last at least 3 to 5 minutes. Thats how much i think that wolverine is over hell boy. If wolverine didnt possess his claws in this fight then I can see this being more interesting (due to hellboys healing factor and durability) but in this match wolverine will over whelm him immediately.
My post was not directed at you, you seem to be sane.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Him being immortal does not make him wolverine level in healing nor closes.what hell boy best healing factor feat which makes you think he closes to wolverines level?
Well he can heal from anything as long as he wishes to
He has had his entire chest cavity impaled and everything ripped out from a big blade and he kept on fighting like nothing happened. Also I said I don't think it's on Wolverine's level.
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I suggest people read the fight between Koshchei and Hellboy in Darkness Calls
So . . .my question is this.
Are you people aware that these two character aren't from the same universe? That you have no, in any way/shape/form, ability to compare the two because they come from two different planes of existance in which the standards of "strong" are nowhere near to each other?
In the world of Hellboy, he's one of the strongest mortals out there. He's been shot, smashed, stabbed through his entire body, fought the Goddess of Witchcraft (a pretty good testament to his healing factor, for those willing to look it up), as well as confronting many old gods and evil spirits. However, unlike many Marvel characters, he's not so drastically overstated. He can't lift a nuclear submarine. He can't survive a nuclear bomb. As the character himself has stated many times, he's just a normal guy with a job to do, and a few extra "abilities" to set him apart.
Wolverine however, like so many Marvel characters, is incredibly overstated. Not to say this as an insult, that's just the way Marvel works. They elevate their character to near god-like status, able to lift 15 tons of whatever the **** Wolvie can lift. (That's not just a number I pulled out my ass. There is -some- mutant that can lift that . . .can't remember though.)) Not to mention this "unstoppable adamantium" bullshit (which, sorry guys, sounds like some kid playing make believe and saying "Nuh-uh, my fireball hit you cause -insert brand new excuse-. Adamantium as the end all/be all of super-excuse is just boring and stupid.) tilts the bar even more.
So, if Hellboy was to be written in a Marvel context, he'd probably be a lot stronger. If Wolverine was written in a Mignola context, he'd probably be a lot weaker. Until that happens, there's no real point in comparing them.
Though, if that happened, it would be a cool fight scene. And they could have $&#@ afterwards. And there could be fanfiction. Anyway . . . .
Cheers.
Originally posted by azudarko
So . . .my question is this.Are you people aware that these two character aren't from the same universe? That you have no, in any way/shape/form, ability to compare the two because they come from two different planes of existance in which the standards of "strong" are nowhere near to each other?
In the world of Hellboy, he's one of the strongest mortals out there. He's been shot, smashed, stabbed through his entire body, fought the Goddess of Witchcraft (a pretty good testament to his healing factor, for those willing to look it up), as well as confronting many old gods and evil spirits. However, unlike many Marvel characters, he's not so drastically overstated. He can't lift a nuclear submarine. He can't survive a nuclear bomb. As the character himself has stated many times, he's just a normal guy with a job to do, and a few extra "abilities" to set him apart.
Wolverine however, like so many Marvel characters, is incredibly overstated. Not to say this as an insult, that's just the way Marvel works. They elevate their character to near god-like status, able to lift 15 tons of whatever the **** Wolvie can lift. (That's not just a number I pulled out my ass. There is -some- mutant that can lift that . . .can't remember though.)) Not to mention this "unstoppable adamantium" bullshit (which, sorry guys, sounds like some kid playing make believe and saying "Nuh-uh, my fireball hit you cause -insert brand new excuse-. Adamantium as the end all/be all of super-excuse is just boring and stupid.) tilts the bar even more.
So, if Hellboy was to be written in a Marvel context, he'd probably be a lot stronger. If Wolverine was written in a Mignola context, he'd probably be a lot weaker. Until that happens, there's no real point in comparing them.
Though, if that happened, it would be a cool fight scene. And they could have $&#@ afterwards. And there could be fanfiction. Anyway . . . .
Cheers.
You think a scientist inventing a virtually unbreakable metal is stupider then a giant invulnerable red demon hand? 😕
Originally posted by srankmissingninbring a demon relates to magic, where there is no bounds on reality...whereas inventing adamantium relates to science, where a reader has certain bounds of logic to follow
You think a scientist inventing a virtually unbreakable metal is stupider then a giant invulnerable red demon hand? 😕
The thing is Wolvies HF has been weakened since his days being obliterated into a skeleton. That feat isn't really valid anymore. THat doesn't show his current levels. He does have an extremely good HF but not at that level anymore. I mean when he faced mystique he did take a while to heal from a shot up his nose into his brain.