Originally posted by Starscream M
bring a demon relates to magic, where there is no bounds on reality...whereas inventing adamantium relates to science, where a reader has certain bounds of logic to follow
Yeah but that operates under the misguided notion that magic > science. In the comic book reality anything that can be achieved through magic can and has been achieved through science as well. They are two sides of the same con... only science has a reason for why the results occured.
magic = science
The fact that in reality science hasn't advanced enough to achieve the same results should have no baring on the debate.
Originally posted by srankmissingninthats not true. at all.magic = science
while science can replicate certain aspects of magic, it can't replicate all aspects.
ie. Superman's weakness to magic, not to tech. Juggernauts mystic invulnerability cannot be replicated scientifically. Wolverine's after life death battles cannot be replicated scientifically.
so, science does not = magic.
Wow . . . you took that entirely out of context.
I wasn't insulting adamantium. Hey, I'm totally good with adamantium. I was insulting the fact that every Wolvie fanboy/girl uses that as the ultimate reason why he's indestructible, since obviously nothing can break it and it can through anything all the time ever.
But that's neither here nor there. More a jab at fanboyishness than anything. From a fanboy. Oh, hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Starscream M
thats not true. at all.while science can replicate certain aspects of magic, it can't replicate all aspects.
ie. Superman's weakness to magic, not to tech. Juggernauts mystic invulnerability cannot be replicated scientifically. Wolverine's after life death battles cannot be replicated scientifically.
so, science does not = magic.
Originally posted by azudarko
Wow . . . you took that entirely out of context.I wasn't insulting adamantium. Hey, I'm totally good with adamantium. I was insulting the fact that every Wolvie fanboy/girl uses that as the ultimate reason why he's indestructible, since obviously nothing can break it and it can through anything all the time ever.
But that's neither here nor there. More a jab at fanboyishness than anything. From a fanboy. Oh, hypocrisy.
His adamantium cannot cut thru anything. He has to have enough force behind his stab to get the claw in. I'm betting he wouldn't be able to pierce Superman's skin.
Originally posted by Starscream M
thats not true. at all.while science can replicate certain aspects of magic, it can't replicate all aspects.
ie. Superman's weakness to magic, not to tech. Juggernauts mystic invulnerability cannot be replicated scientifically. Wolverine's after life death battles cannot be replicated scientifically.
so, science does not = magic.
All of those things can be achieved through science...
Juggs invulnerability? Ultron? Amazo? Wolverine's Resurrection? How many numerous characters have been brought back from the dead through science? Superman's weakness to magic is part of his krypton heritage, which is biological and could in theory be replicated through science and the mapping of the krypton genome
I stand by my statement that magic = science
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All of those things can be achieved through science...Juggs invulnerability? Ultron? Amazo? Wolverine's Resurrection? How many numerous characters have been brought back from the dead through science? Superman's weakness to magic is part of his krypton heritage, which is biological and could in theory be replicated through science and the mapping of the krypton genome
I stand by my statement that magic = science
Mxy's powers are actually super-science and superman is extremely vulnerable to them.
Originally posted by fangirl101
In Trinity, Morgan Lefay is made to look a fool by enigma, telling her that his science can do what ever her magic can and then some. Science and Magic are flip sides of the same coin.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah but that operates under the misguided notion that magic > science. In the comic book reality anything that can be achieved through magic can and has been achieved through science as well. They are two sides of the same coin... only science has a reason for why the results occured.
Hurray! 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingninnope...you've just stumbled upon one of the foundational corollaries of the KMC universe: one cannot win a debate against 'our holy savior' Masterbruce (aka moi), He who has been prophecized to bring about the age of enlightenment to KMC once He has rightfully attained his due, Modship over ALL!
So... have I won the science = magic debate? 😄💃
while science may replicate certain affects of magic, it is not the same as magic. science achieves results through universal laws...those laws cannot be changed nor transcended. magic has no laws. therefore, magic will be able to accomplish things that science simply cannot...and yes, Im talking about in comics.
Originally posted by Starscream M
nope...you've just stumbled upon one of the foundational corollaries of the KMC universe: one cannot win a debate against 'our holy savior' Masterbruce (aka moi), He who has been prophecized to bring about the age of enlightenment to KMC once He has rightfully attained his due, Modship over ALL!while science may replicate certain affects of magic, it is not the same as magic. science achieves results through universal laws...those laws cannot be changed nor transcended. magic has no laws. therefore, magic will be able to accomplish things that science simply cannot...and yes, Im talking about in comics.
name something that magic in comics has achieved that science did not?