Spike Lee Criticises Clint Eastwood And the Coen Brothers.

Started by dadudemon8 pages

Originally posted by chithappens
Well I could also use Christian rhetoric as an example: You die and stand on a cloud in this long ass line while some guy with a book of your sins stands there and decides if you go to heaven. If you are good in this life, you become an angel!

None of this is in the Bible, but it's plastered throughout the media, accepted and taught in the church like a fable within a fable.

The media "industry" is just being industry. 🙄

The Book of Life IS in the Bible.

Rev. 20:12, 15

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
• • •
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Also, what that means, every Christian religion out there who believe that we are all saved by grace and "not of works lest one should boast", are idiots. They have no clue that that particular "scripture" refers to the Jews carrying around little beads (or something like "merit badges) for every good work that they had done. Some people claim that Bible is so full of contradictions that it is nearly impossible to derive specific gospel principles, others, like myself, simply believe that a lot of the mistakes just need more background and explaining to be in proper context. That does NOT change the fact that there ARE blatant mistakes.

Also, about the angel part, you're right. That is no where in the Bible. In Mormon doctrine, only those who lived righteous lives and did what they were supposed to, except entering into the New and Everlasting Covenant, will be come angels to those more worthy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The Book of Life IS in the Bible.

Rev. 20:12, 15

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
• • •
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Also, what that means, every Christian religion out there who believe that we are all saved by grace and "not of works lest one should boast", are idiots. They have no clue that that particular "scripture" refers to the Jews carrying around little beads (or something like "merit badges) for every good work that they had done. Some people claim that Bible is so full of contradictions that it is nearly impossible to derive specific gospel principles, others, like myself, simply believe that a lot of the mistakes just need more background and explaining to be in proper context. That does NOT change the fact that there ARE blatant mistakes.

Also, about the angel part, you're right. That is no where in the Bible. In Mormon doctrine, only those who lived righteous lives and did what they were supposed to, except entering into the New and Everlasting Covenant, will be come angels to those more worthy.

In reference to the book of life, I'm talking about being in a heaven-like place, standing on some clouds while waiting to see what your fate is. The book is there. The other stuff is not.

And angels are entirely different beings from humans. Even Milton's "Paradise Lost" makes note of this.

Didn't know the mormon belief on that though. Where does that come from?

Originally posted by chithappens
Didn't know the mormon belief on that though. Where does that come from?

Comes from what we call a modern day prophet. Joseph Smith claimed to speak to God as does our current Prophet.

I must admit, I'm pretty lame when it comes to knowledge about Mormons, but don't their beliefs originate with Christian doctrines?

Originally posted by chithappens
I must admit, I'm pretty lame when it comes to knowledge about Mormons, but don't their beliefs originate with Christian doctrines?

Sort of. We ARE Christians...but there are fundamental differences between Mormons and other Christian Sects.

If you have more questions, let's take it to PM because I don't want to piss off the mods.

Re: Spike Lee Criticises Clint Eastwood And the Coen Brothers.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
Here's the link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2000781/Cannes-Film-Festival-Spike-Lee-criticises-Clint-Eastwood-over-all-white-Iwo-Jima-films.html that states:

Eastwood has made two movies about the 1945 Battle of Iwo Jima, one from a US perspective and one from the point of view of Japanese troops.

"Clint Eastwood made two films about Iwo Jima that ran for more than four hours total and there was not one Negro actor on the screen," Lee said.

"I've no idea why he did that. That was his vision, not mine. But I know it was pointed out to him and that he could have changed. It's not like he didn't know. It was a conscious decision not to have any black people."

The director was speaking at the Cannes Film Festival, where he is launching Miracle at St Anna, the true story of four black US Army soldiers trapped behind enemy lines in Italy. While fighting the Nazis, they also have to contend with racial abuse from their superiors.

"Here's the paradox. These African-American men wanted to fight against fascism in the name of democracy. At the same time, they were still second class citizens," Lee said.

Eastwood is also in Cannes, promoting his latest film, The Exchange. But he declined to comment on Lee's attack when questioned about it yesterday.

The Dirty Harry star was not the only film-maker to come under fire from Lee, the always outspoken director of Do The Right Thing and Malcolm X.

He said of brothers Joel and Ethan Coen: "I always treat life and death with respect, but most people don't. Look, I love the Coen brothers, we all studied at NYU. But they treat life as a joke. It's like, 'Look how they killed that guy! Look how blood squirts out the side of his head!' I see things different than that."

Miracle at St Anna will be released in October and is likely to premiere at either the Venice or Toronto Film Festivals, Lee said.

His next project is a feature-length documentary on basketball star Michael Jordan, which is being financed by the NBA. Lee and Jordan have worked together in the past on a series of Nike adverts.

Lee needs to shut the f*** up. How often do black directors put white people in their movies? How often are white people given a favorable depiction? I'd find it pretty revolting if they had black soldiers in a WW2 movie for the sake of political correctness when it wasn't historically possible due to segregation. The white man deserves to have nice things for himself...no one, whether a black person, a woman, a homosexual or anything else, has the right to think they can take those things from him.