The Fury vs. Galactus/Phoenix

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WPTOC/Galactus FTW

Originally posted by llagrok
After he realizes it?

Do you think The Fury is some dumb shit with super powers?

Hold your straw man arguments, for some other member.

Face the facts, The Fury has limited data/intelligence that’s constantly being updated. While it is dealing with cosmic forces and its cosmic knowledge. No way you can compare one with the other.
Next I point out the fact, he has never dealt with an energy drain. An obvious choice, if you have the particular power set. Oh look, its an obvious choice both have that particular power set. But wait it gets better, its adaptation depends on its ability to processes data. He never encountered, so he has lil to no resistance to until after Galatcus/Phoenix perform the stunt. What you are left weaken Fury no different then the one you encountered in the classic comic book rendition. And I will go as far as to say that, Captain UK and Captain Britian are vastly outclassed by the cosmic duel. After they where the ones that ended its rampage with blunt force.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Really though since Fury could be recharged by minerals in the soil I don't see him having more energy in him then Galactus can absorb.


Actually Fury was depicted absorbing anything for regeneration.

So Fury is not limited to absorbing "soil."

Originally posted by King Kandy

Also he was defeated just by being cut into by MJJ's claws over and over again,
so they could probably just batter him around.


Nah.

Fury was being warped and "clawed into" simultaneously.

Jaspers' warp in fact, damaged Fury, as much as the physical combat.

(not to post the entire fight)

The Fury had to continuously shape-shift out of the warps, by adapting on the go,
while also physically engaging Jaspers head on,
on top of that,
the Fury simultaneously teleported itself and Jaspers across UniverseS during the entire battle.

This combination of factors is what weakened the Fury to the point where UK killed it,
not before Fury nearly Captain Britain even though it was weakened terribly.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Phoenix will hold him at bay and just generally fight him
while Big G drains him and then then just blow him up for the finish.
Fighting smart the team should take 6-7/10.


Phoenix attacks Fury, Fury immediately adapts to Phoenix,
and re-creates a planetary EMP which explodes the Force itself into billions of pieces.
(been done before) so one quickly down.

Fury simultaneously adapts to G,
withstanding Galactus' "energy drain"
then goes toe to toe with Galactus, Fury easily resists G's physical attacks,
Fury then adapts again, but now it's Galactus that begins to weaken,
so Fury teleports Galactus into an imploding universe,
Galactus dies.

See good friend,
I can create an imaginary scenario too, where my guy wins. 😛

Originally posted by id369

Captain UK and Captain Britian are vastly outclassed by the cosmic duel.


In the same fashion the cosmic duel is ridiculously outclassed by Jaspers' power.

And Jaspers' power wasn't enough.

Originally posted by id369

After they where the ones that ended its rampage with blunt force.


After battling across UniverseS one of the truly most powerful beings ever.

Let's be precise. 🙂

And yet, I could see Jean/Phoenix manipulate time. What can The Fury do, once its stuck in isolated time freeze? He could not possibly adapt, what he cant processes. Isn’t that right Mr. M?

Originally posted by id369

And yet, I could see Jean/Phoenix manipulate time.
What can The Fury do, once its stuck in isolated time freeze?
He could not possibly adapt, what he cant processes.

Isn’t that right Mr. M?


Actually, that's wrong id369.

Fury is immune (by adapting) to Reality warping,
both Time & Space are aspects of Reality.
(even after it's been attacked, Fury will still simply adapt it's way out of it)

So that ain't gonna ever work.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, that's wrong id369.

Fury is immune (by adapting) to Reality warping,
both Time & Space are aspects of Reality.
(even after it's been attacked, Fury will still simply adapt it's way out of it)

So that ain't gonna ever work.

Vice versa you could say that time and space manipulators can warp reality. But that isn’t the case, its just an aspect. Now be honest, there is no feat or claim to say The Fury can adapt on the fly to such ability.

Reasons.
1) that’s not how its adaptability works. It needs to experience said power to counter, it needs to processes that data to find a counter or built a counter. If its is frozen in time, it cant processes. Simple as that.

2) as much as you want to tie in reality warping to time manipulation. Its not how MJJ used his powers, he simply wanted to use its power to warp/change The Fury. Hard headed fellow if you ask me, since he hand various other options to take up, and meet with better results.

Originally posted by id369

Vice versa you could say that time and space manipulators can warp reality.

But that isn’t the case, its just an aspect.


Correct, I agree.
Originally posted by id369

Now be honest,
there is no feat or claim to say The Fury can adapt on the fly to such ability.


Actually there is,
he easily adapted while in the 238 Reality,
while that entire Universe's concepts of Time/Space and all else,
were warped completely,
so completely that Marvel states it:
was the MOST retrograde of all the linked Earth-worlds across the inter-dimensional Continuum."

Wow, that's Marvel paying homage to Jaspers 238. 🙂

Anyway:


(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook)

(On Panel confirmation)

Originally posted by id369

Reasons.
1) that’s not how its adaptability works. It needs to experience said power to counter, it needs to processes that data to find a counter or built a counter. If its is frozen in time, it cant processes. Simple as that.


Good thing it already experience, and withstood,
Time/Space and all other concepts being warped
by two of the most powerful Reality warpers ever.

Just like it withstood all those Concepts being erased from existence. 👆

Originally posted by id369

2) as much as you want to tie in reality warping to time manipulation.
Its not how MJJ used his powers, he simply wanted to use its power to warp/change The Fury. Hard headed fellow if you ask me, since he hand various other options to take up, and meet with better results.


That's your opinion.
But the fact is that Jaspers tried everything he could to defeat Fury, and could not.

It's that simple.

btw. I don't wanna tie in reality warping to time manipulation,
it's already tied.

Time/Space is the basic foundation and most fundamental aspects of Reality.

I'm sure you already know this.

You pulled off a mountain of twist and turns to your comments and a few scans to show how The Fury survived the destruction of the universe, and adapted to reality warp. Yet neither is even remotely related to a time stop or a time freeze. Reality warp, was not used in such a manner, so no you can not say he has a adapted to a power set, he has not bin exposed off.

Can you actually bring something cohesive, are am I to expect the same redundancy from here on?

lmao

Talk about not wanting to face the facts.

Originally posted by llagrok
lmao

Talk about not wanting to face the facts.

which are?

Originally posted by id369

You pulled off a mountain of twist and turns to your comments and a few scans to show how The Fury survived the destruction of the universe, and adapted to reality warp. Yet neither is even remotely related to a time stop or a time freeze. Reality warp, was not used in such a manner, so no you can not say he has a adapted to a power set, he has not bin exposed off.


If you say so, if you can't face the facts though, there's no point in this debate.

Originally posted by id369

Can you actually bring something cohesive,
are am I to expect the same redundancy from here on?


Gibberish.

Come back when you have evidence to contradict what I'm saying. 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok

lmao

Talk about not wanting to face the facts.


Originally posted by id369

which are?


Time & Space make up Reality? ... doh

(Eternity - embodiment of Time)

(Infinity - embodiment of Space)

"Together with Eternity it encompasses all creation" (Reality)

616 Jaspers, with absolute control of both Concepts: (reality)

Since you're probably being honest about you ignorance concerning Fury,
I'll bare with ya and throw some pearls of knowledge at ya.

============================================

So you wanna see Fury resisting a Time-based attack specifically?

Ok, I really thought the proof I presented would be enough,
but if I must ...

"Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants
"

..........................................................................................................

Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.

When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse
"

==============================================

Now imagine the kind of attack
Scatterbrain unleashed on the Fury after he killed some of her team mates:

Her touch is all that's needed,
yet she clawed her fingers into the Fury's head like a savage!

Fury immediately adapted, and owned Scatterbrain,
and Brian who tried to help.

thankyou ... As a reasonable man, I'm sure you'll now concede.

looks like Fury's power was seriously underestimated

Sorry, but I don't buy the fact that Fury would be over Galactus after absorbing TaaII. Galactus would devore the Fury. He would absorb it, destroying him in the process.

I just can't figure that Mad Jim Jasper, a mere mutant, could be OVER the concept of equality.

team for the easy win.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure. Fury could win depending on the situation, but if the only way to kill it is to put as much damage output as Jaspers did, I think that it will overcome both entities.

meh, i still think that galactus devouring taa II (ie. "perhaps the greatest energy source in the universe"😉:

gives him the decisive edge in this particular battle. awesrg

ok fury was programmed to go after all superbeings right ?

so how come it didn't go after Merlyn ?

also how come it survived destruction of reality ? especially since it had never gone through this before
(is it just a cyborg or is it a "mystical" cyborg like imbued with MJJ's magic or something ?)

better yet how it it survived the nullifier yet its creator didn't ? how could MJJ238 give his creation powers he himself didn't have ?