The Fury vs. Galactus/Phoenix

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

ok fury was programmed to go after all superbeings right ?

so how come it didn't go after Merlyn ?

Merlyn was an Omniversal God.

Oh and yea, 238 Jaspers was still more powerful than Merlyn ... ouch.

Ouch ... when we realize 616 Jaspers was FAR more powerful than 238 Jaspers.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

also how come it survived destruction of reality ?
especially since it had never gone through this before

Although Fury did get damaged after traveling across who knows how many UniverseS,
in order to reach 616.

We'll never know what obstacles the Fury must've endured during that incredible trip.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

better yet how it it survived the nullifier yet its creator didn't ?

how could MJJ238 give his creation powers he himself didn't have ?

Best answer I can give while not possessing a piece of Moore's mind.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Merlyn was never a super being from the 238 Universe.

Merlyn was an Omniversal God.

(btw I thought the only omniversal gods were Eternity Infinity Death Oblivion & Living Tribunal ??? didn't know that Merlyn was among them too)

Oh and yea, 238 Jaspers was still more powerful than Merlyn ... ouch.

Ouch ... when we realize 616 Jaspers was FAR more powerful than 238 Jaspers.

(I guess this thread I made ain't so far fetched as some ppl think :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t496725.html 😎 )

It's durability.

Although Fury did get damaged after traveling across who knows how many UniverseS,
in order to reach 616.

We'll never know what obstacles the Fury must've endured during that incredible trip.

That's how it works when you're God of Reality.

Best answer I can give while not possessing a piece of Moore's mind.

doesn't make sense (unless he got access to some tech/magic beyond his own but they never specified)

oh well

better yet why did MJJ have to create some mystical droid instead of just taking care of the heroes himself ? why didn't he just warp them all ? for example just turn them all into rocks or something (mxyzptlk-style 😄 )

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

yeah but fury went after other superbeings from 616 after that so normally he would've gone after every superbeing in the omniverse

The only reason Fury travelled to 616 was to chase down a 238 inhabitant,
which escaped 238 before it was nullified.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

(btw I thought the only omniversal gods were Eternity Infinity Death Oblivion & Living Tribunal ??? didn't know that Merlyn was among them too)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

so this means the MJJs are even more powerful than LT & the rest then ?

(I guess this thread I made ain't so far fetched as some ppl think :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t496725.html

And that thread is ridiculous.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

so it was some kinda supernatural droid then ? infused with MJJ's essence & even more or something like that ? 'cause just flesh & metal can't survive that so there had to be more to it. they never detailed how it was made or even what it was made of

The Fury was thought into existence by a reality God of the 238 Universe, (238 MJJ)
and it was given it's durability on a whim, 238 Jaspers' whim.

And actually the arc did in fact describe exactly what Fury was made of,
I don't have the time right now to crop the scans,
so I'll post them tomorrow.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

that's another thing - it did get damaged during its 1st "slide" to annoher verse but then it would've adapted to the damage caused by sliding - so we can assume that during next slides it never got damaged again right ?

I gave my reasons according to the arc's vague description what it might've been:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=497078&pagenumber=4

But the fact is, we have no idea what exactly it was,
it surely wasn't crossing Universal barriers, which is a joke to do so.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

yeah but that's just unreal

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

doesn't make sense
(unless he got access to some tech/magic beyond his own but they never specified)

It's quite simple friend:

I am God, and I wish to make you more invulnerable than I.

See. 🙂

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

better yet why did MJJ have to create some mystical droid instead of just taking care of the heroes himself ? why didn't he just warp them all ? for example just turn them all into rocks or something (mxyzptlk-style)

238 Jaspers completely warped that entire Universe into a reality of lunacy,
so we KNOW without a doubt, it was just his form of a twisted joke.

Originally posted by Mr Master And actually the arc did in fact describe exactly what Fury was made of, I don't have the time right now to crop the scans,
so I'll post them tomorrow.

No where on panel or in any bio
is it stated or alluded that Fury was damaged by "sliding" from one Universe to another.

I gave my reasons according to the arc's vague description what it might've been:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=497078&pagenumber=4

also is it damaged only when it uses its own transreality drive or does it get damaged when it is transported by someone else too ? (because in its fight against MJ616 they show them teleporting to different verses but it's not clear if it's MJJ or Fury doing the teleporting. we only know Fury did the last teleporting to unreality but we don't know who did the previous ones)

These are comic books friend, nothing is real.

I am God, and I wish to make you more invulnerable than I.

See. 🙂

MJJ616 could've done the same in his battle with fury instead of just shapeshifting & keeping that silly grin of his during the whole fight (lol)

so unless mjj was really stupid (or insane) the only reason he didn't make himself more invulnerable than himself or the fury would be because he simply couldn't do it so he wasn't God (not in absolute sense anyway)

one more thing tho :

Originally posted by Mr Master
And that thread is ridiculous.

ok then explain how on earth (or elsewhere ^^) can LT or even TOAA kill the fury (I'm serious. comics clearly place Fury above even omega mutants ie. he's basically a COSMIC level being, at least toward the end)

if you think there's a way LT can do it, then name it

just one way

any way

fire away ! 😄

Galactus throws a planetoid at him.
Fury hates rocks.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/misc/FantasticFour075-17.jpg

This thread is very old but I have only just got to it, but I have a working theory in how the Fury can be defeated. So far the Fury can adapt anything, can cross dimensions and survived the Ultimate Nullifier. So this is a tough call, but depending on what is classified as an alternate dimension you could technically write him out of existence very simply.

Some may say that the "what if" storylines are something that exist in an alternate reality as they don't form part of canon, such as the hilarious skit of Aunt May become Galactus herald and him feeding on twinkies. If that is true then any notion of traditional "rules" are off the table and anything is possible, even to the point where a previously unconsidered hero had the ability to take out the Fury for whatever reason the writer deemed fit. In this instance you could have a "what if" storyline of the Fury blowing away the Hulk and some debris smashing the windscreen of Howard the Duck's taxicab, Howard gets mad and Quack-Fu's the Fury to death because the only thing that can harm the Fury is duck feathers.

The other possibility which is even more of a stretch is to assume that our reality, that of the reader, is also an accessible reality for the Fury and because characters such as Deadpool regularly break the 4th wall would allude to that being a possibility. Taking that on board Stan Lee could wield his instrument of ultimate power and just write a storyline where the Fury is destroyed in tragic gardening accident (or whatever) and as he is linked via his alternate reality it makes it so everywhere.

For everything else however, I think the Fury wins, except maybe if the Beyonder tries out against him but at that level we are outside the realm of a realistic fight that could be understood by humans.

Team

Fury gets absolutely smashed

I bet you wont say that to his face.