Classic Beyonder vs Lucifer

Originally posted by Galan007
Hyperbole doesn't have to strictly mean "an exaggeration", it can also mean "words that are used for emphasis or effect". Calling the beyond realm an ocean to a drop of water, fits that analogy pretty well, imo.

The 616 was nothing in comparison, that is something most will agree on. And while putting a number with the 'ocean statement' is cool and all, it doesn't hold much 'water' [no pun intended] as far as proof goes, imo.

That's all I was saying. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007

Hyperbole doesn't have to strictly mean "an exaggeration",
it can also mean "words that are used for emphasis or effect".

The of "Hyperbole" revolves around exaggeration only.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole

"extravagant exaggeration"

My personal dictionary states:

"exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally"

Originally posted by Galan007

Calling the beyond realm an ocean to a drop of water,
fits that analogy pretty well, imo.

The Beyond Realm was created on panel by the Beyonder,
and it was stated by the writer to be an Ocean,
while the infinite Multiverse was a drop of water.

So it's not an exaggeration. (hyperbole)

Originally posted by Galan007

The 616 was nothing in comparison, that is something most will agree on.

Originally posted by Galan007

And while putting a number with the 'ocean statement' is cool and all,
it doesn't hold much 'water' [no pun intended] as far as proof goes, imo.

We can't deny the feat that took place on panel,
and what was stated about said feat by the writer himself.

Also,

Shooter put a number on how much more powerful Beyonder was than the Multiverse,
so me putting a number on the size of Beyonder's Reality would be appreciated by Jim imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112

It was a statement by the writer to prove a point. Beyonder was that much more powerful than Lt.

We cant figure the exact numbers out but the statement was made to show the Lt was insignificant to the Beyonder as was the entire marvel universe.

The number I'm putting on it, not me really, that's a freakin rough estimated fact actually,
is for exactly that purpose,
to give some perspective/reference as to how much bigger the Beyond Realm was.

But hey,
I'm cool with just using "an Ocean to a drop of water" to describe the Beyond Realm.

That, in itself, says everything.

I mean can you imagine that?

An infinite Multiverse = a drop of water? 😂

Holy!

This is why Beyonder was retconned. 🙂

So in one instance it's ok to use real world numbers and logic, but when someone does it to prove an impossibility against certain posters arguments, then that person is shot down, said to be speaking gibberish, etc. Interesting.

still waiting for a scan from the end where it says on panel that thanos was referring to destroying anything other than a UNIverse. oh wait there isnt any, pages upon pages of restating old arguments wont change that. {and yes the adding of contradictory words in brackets is a habit of master, they are never stated on panel}

Originally posted by Mr Master
True that.

The number I'm putting on it, not me really, that's a freakin rough estimated fact actually,
is for exactly that purpose,
to give some perspective/reference as to how much bigger the Beyond Realm was.

But hey,
I'm cool with just using "an Ocean to a drop of water" to describe the Beyond Realm.

That, in itself, says everything.

I mean can you imagine that?

An infinite Multiverse = a drop of water? 😂

Holy!

This is why Beyonder was retconned. 🙂

More Infinite than the Infinite Multiverse 😐

Originally posted by leonheartmm still waiting for a scan from the end where it says on panel that thanos was referring to destroying anything other than a UNIverse. oh wait there isnt any, pages upon pages of restating old arguments wont change that. {and yes the adding of contradictory words in brackets is a habit of master, they are never stated on panel}

Originally posted by fangirl101

So in one instance it's ok to use real world numbers and logic, but when someone does it to prove an impossibility against certain posters arguments, then that person is shot down, said to be speaking gibberish, etc. Interesting.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

still waiting for a scan from the end where it says on panel that thanos was referring to destroying anything other than a UNIverse.
oh wait there isnt any

I'll also accept 1 Universe.

I'll even accept A Universe.

But don't come to me The Universe,
because that meant the ENTIRE Marvel Universe. (everything)

Just like the Writer/Creator of "The End: Marvel" stated:

Jim Starlin interview:

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing"

===================================

Or is it that you truly believe,

your unsupported opinion > Jim Starlin (Writer/Creator of "The End: Marvel"😉

Stop being crazy

Originally posted by leonheartmm

pages upon pages of restating old arguments wont change that.

Again:

Jim Starlin interview:

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing"

===================================

Let me know when it sinks in.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

{and yes the adding of contradictory words in brackets is a habit of master,

they are never stated on panel}

Reported for trolling.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I have noticed that myself.
Quite a bit actually.
And then gone off one for bringing that up.

Guess you're looking to get reported too.

I ain't playing games no more, cats report me cause of that grudge,
well I'm starting to report now too, and the LIARS are my #1 target.

So unless you can prove what you're agreeing with, don't do it again.

Notice the courteous warning. 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok

More Infinite than the Infinite Multiverse

I understand the dontgetit smilie, but it is what it is.

To this day (in Marvel) there are different levels of infinity though,
so I'm not surprised:

=====================================

There are different levels of infinity: (omnipotence)

Kubik says,

"Our power is as nothing to the Celestials"

Kosmos replies,

"But Kubik, do we not possess Infinite Power (Omnipotence)

Kubik retorts,

"Yes, Our might is Infinite. But there are Levels of Infinity"

..............................................................

CONTINUES ...

Kubik finishes:

"Thus are demonstrated two levels of infinity,

there are of course, an infinite number more"

..............................................................

Dr Strange corroborates this Marvel fact:

"the very Concept of Infinity is relative,

Numbers are Infinite, so are odd Numbers, yet by definition,

there are Twice as many Numbers as there are odd Numbers ...

One Infinity is included within a larger Infinity"

=====================================

Marvel's claim of levels of Infinity wasn't made up by Marvel,
it's actually based on a real theorem from the real world created by Georg Cantor.

This theorem has been widely accepted as a legitimate theorem since 1891,
even inducted into Princeton's curriculum (like Calculus)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor%27s_theorem

Cantor's Theorem:

"The theorem is named for Georg Cantor, who first stated and proved it."

:

=====================================

..........................................................................................

Sounds just infinite 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm also still waiting for a scan from the End
where it says on panel Thanos only destroyed [b]One Universe.

I'll also accept 1 Universe.

I'll even accept A Universe.

But don't come to me The Universe,
because that meant the ENTIRE Marvel Universe. (everything)

Just like the Writer/Creator of "The End: Marvel" stated:

Jim Starlin interview:

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing"

===================================

Or is it that you truly believe,

your unsupported opinion > Jim Starlin (Writer/Creator of "The End: Marvel"😉

Stop being crazy

No doubt, that one track mind is absolute,
but I don't care about that.

Again:

Jim Starlin interview:

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe it ought to be the real thing"

===================================

Let me know when it sinks in.

Second time you LIE about me.

Reported for trolling. [/B]

lol, so your saying that the entire marvel reality is infact ONE universe then??? :laugh. again , feel free to prove me wrong, when you can find on panel statements claiming sumthing other than UNIverse. THE universe or A universe make no difference. universe is universe.

and LIE you say????? please stop being a little crybaby. after all, i havent reported you yet for the sheer amont of ugliness and unpleasantness you bring to the thread. yet your reporting me for telling the truth????

here is the TRUTH. read the VERY first line you lying little weasel. your first statement was a correct reference to what was stated on panel in the end, and it says UNIVERSE. then you put brackets and write OMNIverse, which is not only a direct contradiction but never stated on panel ever in the end. hence your lie has been caught and id appresiate it if you didnt bring it up again.

Originally posted by Mr Master
..................................................................................

Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

................................................................................

"I was Everything ... bonded to [B]Omni-Reality"

................................................................................

And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:

The PROOF:

................................................................................

"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"

Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

................................................................................

"I was Everything"

Ain't that the truth.

................................................................................ [/B]

Originally posted by leonheartmm

lol, so your saying that the entire marvel reality is infact ONE universe then??? :laugh again

Originally posted by leonheartmm

feel free to prove me wrong, when you can find on panel statements claiming sumthing other than UNIverse. THE universe or A universe make no difference. universe is universe.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

and LIE you say????? please stop being a little crybaby. after all, i havent reported you yet for the sheer amont of ugliness and unpleasantness you bring to the thread. yet your reporting me for telling the truth????

I can put up with your intransigence,
but not with LIES!

Originally posted by leonheartmm

here is the TRUTH.
read the VERY first line you lying little weasel.
your first statement was a correct reference to what was stated on panel in the end, and it says UNIVERSE. then you put brackets and write OMNIverse, which is not only a direct contradiction but never stated on panel ever in the end. hence your lie has been caught and id appresiate it if you didnt bring it up again. [/B]

Real Truth!

That's why I put Omniverse in brackets you silly child.

Perhaps if you stop getting high before debating, this wouldn't happen to you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Stop smokin.

Come back when you find what I asked for.

If you LIE about me one more time,
I'll report you.

I can put up with your intransigence,
but not with LIES!

Reported for trolling!

That's why I put Omniverse in brackets you silly child.

Perhaps if stop getting high before debating, this wouldn't happen to you.

😆 😆
thats a badass thing to say "you LIE ABOUY ME ONE MORE TIME AND ILL REPORT YOU!" 😆 😆

it wasnt a lie, you were caught with your pants down little baby. you demanded evidence and i delievered. omni reality is not omniverse, that is your own little world.

you know what, go ahead, report me for LYING i dare ya 😆 ! the mods will have a right laugh. basically, own up and stop being so childlessly insecure, you lied, we caught you, end of story. and ill keep reposting that post{which is among many} until the time yo stop lying to cover up your lie.

PLEASE ... Delete that OVER-SIZED Scan, it was a mistake!!!!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
😆 😆
thats a badass thing to say "you LIE ABOUY ME ONE MORE TIME AND ILL REPORT YOU!" 😆 😆

Originally posted by leonheartmm

it wasnt a lie, you were caught with your pants down little baby.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

you demanded evidence and i delievered. omni reality is not omniverse,
that is your own little world.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

you know what, go ahead, report me for LYING i dare ya ! the mods will have a right laugh.
basically, own up and stop being so childlessly insecure, you lied, we caught you, end of story. and ill keep reposting that post{which is among many} until the time yo stop lying to cover up your lie.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
omni reality is not omniverse

Actually Leon, you've been putting words in Mr Masters mouth.
Either you start debating instead of downtalking, or you simply leave the thread to those willing to debate under the rules of the forum.

Master, Leon, let's keep it nice and clean.

Bada won't hesitate to durfist the two of you.

Originally posted by llagrok

Master, Leon, let's keep it nice and clean.

Bada won't hesitate to the two of you.

Imo, that's a troll, hence why I posted: Reported for trolling.

Originally posted by Astner

Actually Leon, you've been putting words in Mr Masters mouth.
Either you start debating instead of downtalking, or you simply leave the thread to those willing to debate under the rules of the forum.

I've crumbled the entire fantasy he's self-imposed upon Marvel,
that's gain me yet another troll to follow me around
and attempt to besmirch my name every chance they get.

I already have 3 dedicated trolls, don't need another one. 🙁