Classic Beyonder vs Lucifer

Started by fangirl10126 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
Not really, even a step above Beyonder in the cosmic hierarchy chain should be able to affect Beyonder.

What does that have to do with LT though?

Where does the LT get ALL of his power and authority from?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Where does the LT get ALL of his power and authority from?

TOAA, but LT power is constant, so that really doesn't matter.

But like I said, I'll leave this to more knowledgeable people.

Originally posted by Mindset
TOAA, but LT power is constant, so that really doesn't matter.

But like I said, I'll leave this to more knowledgeable people.

Oh the LT's power is constant? So when Reed Richard's pwned him with a cosmic mirror, his power was constant? When he decided his ultimate punish for korvak was blowing up the sun and when that didn't work, he just sealed off the universe that was constant? Or was it when he held two megaverses in one hand and fashioned them to his liking? One of which holds the prime marvel reality. Or is it when the LT resisted The heart of the Universes power longer than anyone else besides eternity and infinity? Please tell me. So the Lt's power was the same when Eternity was younger and there was only one marvel multiverse to govern or now that there is an omniverse with megaverses inside of it. Which is it?

Beyonder prevails

He could defeat all of vertigo at once and the dcuniverse.

what is the point of these forums when u have classic beyonder vs or thanos with hotu vs?....are they done for spite?...or a people actually looking to have an interesting debate about the various combatants?...
cheers 💃

Originally posted by I love DC
Beyonder prevails

He could defeat all of vertigo at once and the dcuniverse.


Q?

Originally posted by lannfear
what is the point of these forums when u have classic beyonder vs or thanos with hotu vs?....are they done for spite?...or a people actually looking to have an interesting debate about the various combatants?...
cheers 💃
cuz some feeltheoppositeistrue

Don't really buy into the Beyonder hype, nothing but poetic narrative. I need to see some actual feats.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
see how you had to add OMNIVERSE in brackets in front of the actual ON PANEL statement which said "UNIVERSE" and your own sources having the AUTHIR say marvel UNIVERSE? lmao, quoting your own words "your own oppinion means nothing, in opposition to on panel feats" both on panel and through the mouth of the CREATOR{a higher authority} the reality has been described as NOTHING other than a UNIVERSE. therefore, thanos destroyed a UNIVERSE on panel and LT died by the destruction of a UNIVERSE on panel. case closed, that is ALL the comic and the creater say. dont try to weasel your way out of your own trap dumass.

Lucifer for the win

I have noticed a poster adds his own words in brackets in front of his scans, since i first got here over a year ago, it always leads to misleading statments and confusion...and it leads one to think ones opinion is fact

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Don't really buy into the Beyonder hype, nothing but poetic narrative.
I need to see some actual feats.


hum

Classic Beyonder appeared in 51 issues, and performed feats in all of them,
if we include Secret Wars I, then that's even more feats still.

Re-arranging Reality, creating Reality, erasing Reality,
imploding entire Universes, erasing Death from the infinite Multiverse,
making the LT tremble in fear,
shooting a uni-directional blast that crossed the infinite Multiverse
destroying everything in its path,
absorbing an explosion that would've disintegrated the Microverse,
withstanding a blast that would've destroyed BILLIONS of entire UniverseS,
defeating the Molecule Man, surveying the Multiverse simultaneously without moving,
studying the entire Multiversal fabric with a gesture,
creating an infinity that was like an Ocean ... while All of Marvel was a drop of water.

Those are some off the top of my head, (All On Panel)
most of which were done while limiting himself. 😂

I noticed a Troll that's still doing his best to LIE about my name,
damn, that grudge is unbelievable.

I challenge anyone to prove I lied,
or added any extra info of any kind to any of my scans.

"a year ago?"

How about the same Trollish behavior taking place since 2006. 😬

Let the hate go already potna.

Originally posted by fangirl101

[B]Oh the LT's power is constant?


correct.

If you ahve any proof of any kind that suggest otherwise,
please post the evidence, or point me in the direction.

Originally posted by fangirl101

So when Reed Richard's pwned him with a cosmic mirror,
his power was constant?


you mean when the LT pwnd himself.

Get your facts straight.

Originally posted by fangirl101

When he decided his ultimate punish for korvak was blowing up the sun and when that didn't work, he just sealed off the universe that was constant?


The Writers wanted Korvac to erase that Universe,
had the LT curbstomped Korvac like we all know he could've,
then the Writer wouldn't have been able to finish his story now would he?

The LT never confronted Korvac, heck the LT never even saw Korvac,
the LT demonstrated his power by ripping that entire Universe form the Multiverse,
and then sealing it in an impenetrable barrier.

All done with a gesture.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Or was it when he held two megaverses in one hand and fashioned them to his liking? One of which holds the prime marvel reality.

Or is it when the LT resisted The heart of the Universes power longer than anyone else besides eternity and infinity? Please tell me.


And? ... You call that low showings?
Originally posted by fangirl101

So the Lt's power was the same when Eternity was younger and there was only one marvel multiverse to govern or now that there is an omniverse with megaverses inside of it. Which is it?


Correct. The LT has never been retconned into more or less power.

The LT has always been the Judge of all Marvel,
most powerful entity in all Marvel.

Only Molecule Man, Beyonder (both retconned now) and THOTI, (God's power)
have truly been more powerful than the LT.

Protege stole his powers, and then there is Scathan.

Originally posted by Bentley

Protege stole his powers, and then there is Scathan.


Protege didn't steal his power,
Protege copied his power, but never confronted the LT in any way.

The mysterious Scathan, at best,
for some undefined reason, is somewhere equal to LT.

But Scathan didn't confront the LT either,
and I agree with Bran, it's the dumbest scenario one can imagine,
cause Scathan did indeed use Celestial tech.

Now,
unless how I've theorized with allusions within the arc,
that Scathan was TOAA's agent in some way,
the story really is senseless.

But it's canon, so I won't deny it. 🙂

No problem, I thought it was worthy of mention.

Originally posted by Bentley

No problem, I thought it was worthy of mention.


👆 Don't get me wrong, it did happen, and it is canon.

The circumstances are somewhat petty,
but most, if not all cosmic stories have some of that.

There's really no choice in the matter if you want to make a story involving omnipotents.

That's why it makes me laugh when cats try to nitpick THOTI or any other god-like power.
They don't realize if THOTI was written without any PIS,
Thanos would have acquired THOTI, waved his hand, end of story.

How can you sell a book that way?

You feel me Ben?

The story first, then the logic. Its something basic in every versus-comic-discussion. 👆

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Don't really buy into the Beyonder hype, nothing but poetic narrative. I need to see some actual feats.
He has feats lots of them. Do you know who the Beyonder is?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Why is it hyperbole?

Beyonder did create such a Universe, on panel.

So what exactly makes the analogy, "hyperbole" good friend?

Hyperbole doesn't have to strictly mean "an exaggeration", it can also mean "words that are used for emphasis or effect". Calling the beyond realm an ocean to a drop of water, fits that analogy pretty well, imo.

The 616 was nothing in comparison, that is something most will agree on. And while putting a number with the 'ocean statement' is cool and all, it doesn't hold much 'water' [no pun intended] as far as proof goes, imo.

That's all I was saying. 🙂

We know that pun was intended. 😊