Originally posted by Robtard
Oil is run mostly by OPEC, they have the biggest pull. They in turn pay of our politicians, who in turn let 'Big Oil' sodomize us at the pump.
They produce about 45% of the worlds crude oil.
Took me a while to find a source for that....but I found it.
"OPEC Member Countries produce about 45 per cent of the world's crude oil and 18 per cent of its natural gas. However, OPEC's oil exports represent about 55 per cent of the crude oil traded internationally. Therefore, OPEC can have a strong influence on the oil market, especially if it decides to reduce or increase its level of production."
http://www.opec.org/library/FAQs/aboutOPEC/q13.htm
If we didn't USE gasoline as our primary transportation energy source, we wouldn't have this problem. We would produce more oil than we could use, the American people would have more money in their pockets due to savings from gas non-dependency, AND our cities would be cleaner! (F*ck you, smog, f*ck you very much.)
Riding the US of its oil dependency is someting I think is VERY important. If we had our own US car manufacturers making cars that do not burn gasoline or other petroleum products as their fuel source, we would create buttloads of jobs. The economy would improve, generally, because we could export both our cars and our surplus oil.
DUDE! That have f**king air cars! (Cars that run on air.) They are more efficient energy wise, and it costs less to make the "fuel" for the cars. (Just load up with compressed air.) Can you say the same for the refinement process for oil?
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, nationalisation will stop that from happening. I hate it when people always think nationalisation is bad, it saved my country from health and education...well, it helped.Nationalising the oil would stop the paying off the government and possibly even the illegal wars.
Hahaha, it sure did. Horrible system you have.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Bought gas in the US lately?
Good Lord, I've never seen an attempt to use an example to refute a point actually SUPPORT the point more drastically.
Gas is incredibly cheap in the US thanks to market forces; and as Jaden pointed out it is Government interference that keeps its prices high elsewhere.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hahaha, it sure did. Horrible system you have.
A german in a thread about gas.
Originally posted by chithappens
The question is why did gas prices inflate so high in the first place?
According to the news, its because there is a shortage, because the lizards are in control of OPEC.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
and as Jaden pointed out it is Government interference that keeps its prices high elsewhere.
aside from canada 😉
****actually, I'd say it might be better to say government involvement can have various effects on prices, depending on the nation's resource situation... Less export and more national control of oil would likely reduce prices in canada, although the transport cost of Albreta -> eastern canada might be higher than import prices.
Originally posted by chithappens
The obvious answer is that they just want our money. It's that simple. It's a big ass circle.Don't know about the air car though...
Basically, yes. We're grown dependant on their product, so now they set the terms. It's like the dynamic between drug-dealer and the addict.
I don't know how viable that air-car is, maybe for short range driving and not hauling a lot. There was a company that built a car which ran on liquefied air in the early 1900's, it didn't take though.
We've had electric cars since the late 1800's. Yet the EV1 was a flop. Designed to be from the start.
Hybrids, the rage of today aren't new either. There were several hybrids that saw road use between the late 1800's and early 1900's.
Cars getting 30+ mpg were around since the 70's, maybe even earlier. So that 2008 Honda Civic that get's a whopping 30+ mpg really isn't an improvement either.
Besides paying our politicians, Big Oil also pays to suppress technology of alternative fuels. I know interest in alternatives fuels lost drive once the gasoline engine became more dependable, but still in all those years, we've barely improved the technologies?
Originally posted by RobtardAll the while, it was the driving force behind the abandonment of mass/public transport systems in major, as well as minor and developing, cities all over the nation. As for alternative fuels, most of the progress in alternative fuels is coming from the oil companies themselves. They're the ones who are investing in these alternative technologies, as a long-term means of continuing to be the industry that posts record profits. It's very Eastern in it's outlook.
Besides paying our politicians, Big Oil also pays to suppress technology of alternative fuels.
Originally posted by Devil King
All the while, it was the driving force behind the abandonment of mass/public transport systems in major, as well as minor and developing, cities all over the nation. As for alternative fuels, most of the progress in alternative fuels is coming from the oil companies themselves. They're the ones who are investing in these alternative technologies, as a long-term means of continuing to be the industry that posts record profits. It's very Eastern in it's outlook.
the investment into alternative fuels accounts for very, very small percentages of annual spending for oil companies. I remember hearing about it on a Bill Moyers, essentially accusing companies of using the meme of "promoting alternative fuels" to stop them from looking like heartless and corrupt corporations determined to sell us a product that is destroying our planet and economy. I'll look it up if you want, but I am sort of just surfing the web at work.
They are the ones putting the most money into the research, but it is not in the intention of discovering a way to reduce their oil profits.
Originally posted by inimalist
the investment into alternative fuels accounts for very, very small percentages of annual spending for oil companies. I remember hearing about it on a Bill Moyers, essentially accusing companies of using the meme of "promoting alternative fuels" to stop them from looking like heartless and corrupt corporations determined to sell us a product that is destroying our planet and economy. I'll look it up if you want, but I am sort of just surfing the web at work.They are the ones putting the most money into the research, but it is not in the intention of discovering a way to reduce their oil profits.
Oh, I have no doubt they intend to aquire and resell every drop of oil on Earth before they start any real focus on their investments in alternatives. But they've laid the groundwork for their own futures. It's a long term win/win.
But, do feel free to research away. And while you're at it, post a few links about the oil companies shit-canning the public transit system.
In 2000, a gallon of gas averaged $1.40, now it's bordering $4.00 and will be well on it's way to $5.00 by the end of the year.
Inflation has gone up that much in just 8 years? The one thing besides being a war monger that GW Bush will be remembered for (that is if you're a ter'rist supporter), is being Big Oil's (esp. Exxon) little lapdog.
It will probably take a $5.01 price at the pump before people start going nuts and something is done, then again, the damage would have already been done and the profits reaped. Didn't Exxon set a record for profits worldwide in 2007?
Highest in American history. But they are not nearly as profitable as some Russian companies. When Bush looked into Putin's eyes he saw his soul. Apparently it was made of pools of black, tar-like, oil. I'm sure it was something to which Mr. Bush could relate. Then, Putin shot him the bird. But I'm sure Mr. Bush is comfortable with the "It's just business" adage.