Bottom line. Any kind of health care that isn't absurdly expensive is against conservative principles. Read a little Edmund Burke or the political philosophies of John Adams. The whole purpose of conservatism is to "conserve" traditional values, institutions, and social hierarchies. It's a hell of a lot easier to actually do that without a middle class and when a majority of people are so overworked, sick, and underpaid that they don't have the energy to do anything about social inequality or rights or any of that. Health care would put people away from wage slavery because it would lower the costs of small businesses and the financial burden of families, and also drive up taxes, therefore drive up wages and allow for greater social mobility and actually improve the competitiveness of the US economy. Kind of like how many of the European states have economies that are starting to outcompete the US and have a very low unemployment (Germany's is 5% right now). Universal health care is bad for the economy because it'll erode away the power of the plutocracy that controls our current economy and government, so it's bad.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm not familiar with "centralized insurance" as a term... do you mean government-run insurance? Because yes, that would take care of that particular problem.
Thats a form, but its not the only one. You either have one source of insurance or all insuance agencys working under one model/system.
Originally posted by King Kandy
But if that's not government run, it will be even more of a problem since they will be a monopoly and can charge as much as they want.
No. Centralized does not mean one agency. If can be something like the US is proposed where you have all insurance comapnies overseen/sheparded by the USG. Thats centralization without single-payer.
Regardless, the second part of my plan is also essential. A single government run insuarance does not garuntee price control. Rationing care and the use of evidence based medicine are also essential.
But unfortunately the majority of the US population is too dumb to understand medicine.
Originally posted by Ordo
No. Centralized does not mean one agency. If can be something like the US is proposed where you have all insurance comapnies overseen/sheparded by the USG. Thats centralization without single-payer.Regardless, the second part of my plan is also essential. A single government run insuarance does not garuntee price control. Rationing care and the use of evidence based medicine are also essential.
But unfortunately the majority of the US population is too dumb to understand medicine.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxThe doctor's and hospitals never had any power in the modern era. You're using a Republican talking point. Basically, you're ignoring who in the US is most satisfied with care (Medicare, and VA recipients-government run care) and boiling it all down to the ideology of government bad, private good.
Universal healthcare would do absolutely nothing to help this country. It would just give more control to the gomment. Do you really want the Gomment deciding who is fit to live and die? Seriously...,that's what what this boils down to. Give the Frackin power back to the Doctors and hospitals.
Do you live in California? Tell me how awesome things got ten years ago when they decided they didn't want government run electricity and gave the power back to the power companies.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Universal healthcare would do absolutely nothing to help this country. It would just give more control to the gomment. Do you really want the Gomment deciding who is fit to live and die? Seriously...,that's what what this boils down to. Give the Frackin power back to the Doctors and hospitals.
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Just remember the Libertarian code people! Wanting free healthcare is nothing but stealing from hard working people, illegal downloading is just part of the quest for freedom.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Do you really want the Gomment deciding who is fit to live and die?
Do you really want some company deciding who is fit to live and die?