Odin vs Thanos (Rematch)

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Thor saved Odin all the time. Thor > Odin ... Thanos >>> Thor

Yeah, Thor > Odin atleast according to comics. For example the Dark Gods who captured Odin: Destroyers, Thor and Hercules had to save the day. Odin fought Surtur and lost, and again Thor saved day.

Odin can lift 75K and Thanos can lift 100K+

Odin < Galactus. Thanos has more convincing feats against Galactus. Thanos has enslaved Galactus atleast twice (Annihilus wave) and saved his life for example. Also Thanos could let one of his Thanosi handle Odin (Omega).

Also why are you bringing the fight where Thanos went to save Thor to this thread? If someone did not fight seriously in that, it was Thanos. They went to ask for Odins help and if Thanos would have killed Odin, it would been kind of pointless. Thanos was just taking blasts and was not even trying to harm odin ...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Funny how you say "technically defeated" when all that Thanos-clone did was have Tarrakis poison Odin's drink who was already weakened by months of imprisonment by, and the struggle with, the Dark Gods pantheon. Thanos-clone roofie'ing Odin isn't exactly what I'd call a defeat, much less a "technical" one.

Let me know when you substantiate your "Thanos going all out" idea.

Hence the term "technically" and in quotations no less. I know exactly what happened in that situation as you didn't enlighten anyone. I would never consider that a legit victory and my choice of words expressed that sentiment. The fact is that Thanos orchestrated a plan that incapacitated Odin. Period, end of story.

Good try ODG but it was you who made the claim that Thanos was going all out. I disputed said claim and it's up to you to prove your case. You can't and that's is okay because he wasn't. If he was, he would've AT LEAST employed his vaunted shielding. Shielding that in fact taxed Galactus to break, kept him safe from Champion PG for a time and stood up under fire from a being "more powerful" than Galactus. Thanos's shielding is legendary and it was nowhere to be found in his battle with Odin. That alone proves he wasn't going all out to win the fight and pulling out all the stops just as Odin wasn't. He didn't employ TK, TP, teleportation or any such measure. He WALKED RIGHT THROUGH Odin's gugnir blast seemingly to prove a point. Hence why I call it a pissing contest. If you going all out why would you choose to walk through an opponents best blast to date and take unecessary injury? You wouldn't.. he was trying to prove he can take what Odin can dish out. They both just stood there and blasted each other and neither used much tactics or range of abilities. So.. by all means prove he was going all out.

In regards to people saying he wasn't upgraded… Well he blasts Odin time after time and it barely moves him. He blasts a Galactus looking right at him and it sends him flying through his ship and bouncing across the moon. Now are we to assume Thanos wasn't trying very hard and sent weak blasts at Odin.. Well we can which would support a not going all out theory. Or we can say he was trying against odin and the reason he sent a more powerful character flying is because of the upgrade. You can't have it both ways. Galactus is more powerful than odin imo and so in one case he barely moves one.. in the other after upgrade.. he sends him flying and bouncing across the moon. Is this really a tough concept to grasp?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
When was he upgraded?

I noticed no difference between pre-the end thanos and post. In fact, he looked a little chubbier if you ask me.


It says in his miniseries that he gave himself extra power to prevent old enemies from coming after him.

^ "Life assuring" wishes. Which didn't really end up assuring his life at all.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hence the term "technically" and in quotations no less. I know exactly what happened in that situation as you didn't enlighten anyone. I would never consider that a legit victory and my choice of words expressed that sentiment. The fact is that Thanos orchestrated a plan that incapacitated Odin. Period, end of story.
I'm the one who put quotations around "technically." Not you. And that was about as "technically defeated" as a rapist "technically defeating" a college girl with roofies.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Good try ODG but it was you who made the claim that Thanos was going all out. I disputed said claim and it's up to you to prove your case. You can't and that's is okay because he wasn't. If he was, he would've AT LEAST employed his vaunted shielding. Shielding that in fact taxed Galactus to break, kept him safe from Champion PG for a time and stood up under fire from a being "more powerful" than Galactus. Thanos's shielding is legendary and it was nowhere to be found in his battle with Odin. That alone proves he wasn't going all out to win the fight and pulling out all the stops just as Odin wasn't. He didn't employ TK, TP, teleportation or any such measure. He WALKED RIGHT THROUGH Odin's gugnir blast seemingly to prove a point. Hence why I call it a pissing contest. If you going all out why would you choose to walk through an opponents best blast to date and take unecessary injury? You wouldn't.. he was trying to prove he can take what Odin can dish out. They both just stood there and blasted each other and neither used much tactics or range of abilities. So.. by all means prove he was going all out.
Angel Medina never draws shielding for Thanos. It's there though. Thanos drawing on his power and deactivating his shields is oxymoronic. And you still haven't showed us a single example of this "Thanos going all out" idea, that you're trying to project onto him. As it stands, until you do, you're just making excuses for Thanos' performance, i.e., being beat on like a red-headed step-child.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In regards to people saying he wasn't upgraded… Well he blasts Odin time after time and it barely moves him. He blasts a Galactus looking right at him and it sends him flying through his ship and bouncing across the moon. Now are we to assume Thanos wasn't trying very hard and sent weak blasts at Odin.. Well we can which would support a not going all out theory. Or we can say he was trying against odin and the reason he sent a more powerful character flying is because of the upgrade. You can't have it both ways. Galactus is more powerful than odin imo and so in one case he barely moves one.. in the other after upgrade.. he sends him flying and bouncing across the moon. Is this really a tough concept to grasp?
Galactus has been knocked around before. False distinction. Even Thanos characterizes his attack as pretty much a negligible nuisance.

He surprised G with his blast while Odin was in fighting mood. You don't believe he could have blasted G that way if G would have seen it coming?

Originally posted by King Kandy
It says in his miniseries that he gave himself extra power to prevent old enemies from coming after him.

You mean Drax? Who came after him and killed him? 😆

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You mean Drax? Who came after him and killed him? 😆

Guess he forgot to remove the whole "one weakness" part...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Guess he forgot to remove the whole "one weakness" part...

That must have been one hell of an upgrade, failing to do the one thing it was intended for.

Now that I think about it, I think Drax was stuck in the microverse at the time...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ "Life assuring" wishes. Which didn't really end up assuring his life at all. I'm the one who put quotations around "technically." Not you. And that was about as "technically defeated" as a rapist "technically defeating" a college girl with roofies. Angel Medina never draws shielding for Thanos. It's there though. Thanos drawing on his power and deactivating his shields is oxymoronic. And you still haven't showed us a single example of this "Thanos going all out" idea, that you're trying to project onto him. As it stands, until you do, you're just making excuses for Thanos' performance, i.e., being beat on like a red-headed step-child. Galactus has been knocked around before. False distinction. Even Thanos characterizes his attack as pretty much a negligible nuisance.

Again ODG YOU MADE THE CLAIM so back it up. Show me your evidence that Thanos was going all out. You made the statement now back it up. I proved that statement false with numerous examples. You.. well you haven't proved anything. It's funny to see you try and switch the onus to me, because you can't support you case. Thanks for the chuckle. Just as it's amusing with another false comparison which you love doing. Thanos employed NO shielding period. Prove he had shielding in their fight. We've seen Thanos call upon his shields against Galactus, Omega, Champion etc. We CLEARLY see a shield around him. Against Odin there was no such shielding. This is becoming a full time job proving your premises and false comparisons wrong man. Give me a little rest okay? What examples do you have of somebody blasting Galactus out of his ship and bouncing across the moon, or even sent flying for a great distance. You claim this happens all the time.. give me the examples. He blasts Odin doesn't move him... after upgrade he blast Galactus... sends him flying like we rarely see. Common sense, unless we want to say thanos wasn't trying against Odin and thus he was against galactus and it wasn't the upgrade. Which one?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He surprised G with his blast while Odin was in fighting mood. You don't believe he could have blasted G that way if G would have seen it coming?

Galactus was looking RIGHT at him when he blasted him. He even said.. have it your way.. then blasted him. This was no sneek attack.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galactus was looking RIGHT at him when he blasted him. He even said.. have it your way.. then blasted him. This was no sneek attack.

I don't think G expected someone to be foolish enough to attack him 😐

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galactus was looking RIGHT at him when he blasted him. He even said.. have it your way.. then blasted him. This was no sneek attack.

Its like being kicked in the shins by an angry five year old. You never see it coming.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
He surprised G with his blast while Odin was in fighting mood. You don't believe he could have blasted G that way if G would have seen it coming?
He looked at galactus and told him he was going to blast him. By your logic even warning someone you're ass is mine is a cheapshot.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Off panel, except for Thanos' purple butt raised in the air. And canon.

You ignore what even Thanos-clones know:

I saw the panels myself. two men standing their glaring at each other wanting to continue fighting isn't a win for Odin. I could car less what a Thanos clone says I saw the fight with my own two eyes.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think the distinction between Thanos losing or stalemating Odin is pretty inconsequential. He showed that he was in the same weight class as Odin in that fight, and he's been upgraded since then.
Exactly.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Must be a pretty big weight class since Odin was looking unhurt and Thanos had trouble standing up.
Uhm, first things first here. Odin showed he's out of the Surfer's, Drax's weight class while we saw Thanos was in his weight class by the length of their fight, Odin's intentions, Odin's respectful comments, and the situation of the comic.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
When was he upgraded?

I noticed no difference between pre-the end thanos and post. In fact, he looked a little chubbier if you ask me.

Marvel's the end. You've heard people state this countless times so either tell us why you don't believe so because this charade of yours gets old.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Its like being kicked in the shins by an angry five year old. You never see it coming.
This is why you don't debate that often. you just refuse to accept what the comics give us. Example is when you ignore all of superman's impressive showings against darkseid and still say he wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I saw the panels myself. two men standing their glaring at each other wanting to continue fighting isn't a win for Odin. I could car less what a Thanos clone says I saw the fight with my own two eyes.
You should get those eyes checked.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again ODG YOU MADE THE CLAIM so back it up. Show me your evidence that Thanos was going all out. You made the statement now back it up. I proved that statement false with numerous examples. You.. well you haven't proved anything. It's funny to see you try and switch the onus to me, because you can't support you case. Thanks for the chuckle. Just as it's amusing with another false comparison which you love doing. Thanos employed NO shielding period. Prove he had shielding in their fight. We've seen Thanos call upon his shields against Galactus, Omega, Champion etc. We CLEARLY see a shield around him. Against Odin there was no such shielding. This is becoming a full time job proving your premises and false comparisons wrong man. Give me a little rest okay? What examples do you have of somebody blasting Galactus out of his ship and bouncing across the moon, or even sent flying for a great distance. You claim this happens all the time.. give me the examples. He blasts Odin doesn't move him... after upgrade he blast Galactus... sends him flying like we rarely see. Common sense, unless we want to say thanos wasn't trying against Odin and thus he was against galactus and it wasn't the upgrade. Which one?
Dude, I likened Thanos' fight with Odin to tyrant, a good example of him going all out. You said neither are good examples of him going all out because Thanos must use all his abilities. But it's incumbent upon you now to prove this. Because so far, you haven't even come up with a single example. Don't act like the burden of proof's been shifted. Thanos was using his shielding. Angel Medina doesn't draw Thanos' shields. Why would he handicap himself when it's being specifically stated that he is drawing upon his power? Some artists don't draw Thanos' shields, take the Tyrant fight for instance. And acting like blind-siding Galactus is a worthy feat when even Thanos himself downplays it is ironic.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You should get those eyes checked. Dude, I likened Thanos' fight with Odin to tyrant, a good example of him going all out. You said neither are good examples of him going all out because Thanos must use all his abilities. But it's incumbent upon you now to prove this. Because so far, you haven't even come up with a single example. Don't act like the burden of proof's been shifted. Thanos was using his shielding. Angel Medina doesn't draw Thanos' shields. Why would he handicap himself when it's being specifically stated that he is drawing upon his power? Some artists don't draw Thanos' shields, take the Tyrant fight for instance. And acting like blind-siding Galactus is a worthy feat when even Thanos himself downplays it is ironic.
When did he lose then?

Do you ask someone to yield after you beat them?

^ Lose what? He got beat on.

You ask them that when you're beating someone down.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Lose what? He got beat on.

You ask them that when you're beating someone down.

Odin thought he won. he didn't. Thanos told him so and then he gave him the option of yielding mainly out of respect. Thanos told him to go ---- yourself.

That's exactly how I went down. You live in your own fantasy world.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You should get those eyes checked.

He knows that Thanos was on the losing end, he's even admitted it before, he's just trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin was winning. Period. There was no victor in this fight and you know it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He knows that Thanos was on the losing end, he's even admitted it before, he's just trolling.
He was losing he hadn't lost yet. You don't wake someone up after koing them to ask them if they yield or not snake eyes.

Odin was winning but how the fight would have ended up is anyone's guess.