Odin vs Thanos (Rematch)

Originally posted by carver9
What makes you think he'll use his full potential around the people that he care about and around asgard?

Again, if he wanted to stop thanos, he had plenty of opportunities to do so.

What other ways would Odin have stopped Thanos?

Originally posted by carver9
What makes you think he'll use his full potential around the people that he care about and around asgard?

Again, if he wanted to stop thanos, he had plenty of opportunities to do so.

Carver carver carver... Just because you feel Odin shouldn't have had that much trouble doesn't change the comic and how the fight went. Clearly, Odin was pissed... clearly he mentioned wanting to kill Thanos.. Afterall, he imprisoned his son and was invading asgard and had just wrecked his people (initial warriors). This is indisputable. Now, I will concede that Odin wasn't going all out... but neither was Thanos. Neither of them displayed any of the numerous powers they have. Shoot Thanos didn't even use his shielding to block some of the blows. Do you think Thanos would walk right through Odin's most powerful blast at that point of the battle.. instead of shielding or teleporting away? He clearly was trying to prove a point... He can take whatever Odin can dish out. Period. However, make no mistake Odin was certainly trying way more than 50% and this is clear by his words and actions to put him down. Furthermore, he even says... He hasn't fought someone like this is EONS.. that statement alone proves he feels Thanos is in his league.

Now you speak of upgrades... Well ODG argued that Makers blasts were more powerful than Galactus or Omegas because it KO'd him in one shot while the others fired a continous blast that couldn't penetrate his shields. Of course this is going with the premise that Thanos always has his shields up (which I disagree with by the way) Point is, some believe The Maker was that powerful to KO Thanos in one shot. Yet, when he was ready he took those blasts in stride and dished them back. He couldn't even budge Odin the first time they met.. yet after the upgrade.. He blasts Galactus hundreds of feet in one shot. We never ever seen Galactus blasted and thrown like that. Now personally I believe Galactus to be above Odin. Thus, we must assume that a similar blast from Thanos now after upgrades.. should certainly effect Odin more than their first encounter correct? Anyways, I still give Odin the majority but to think thanos has no chance is ludicris... He was praised by odin himself and a pissed of odin couldn't put him down pre-upgrade. Now, Thanos certainly can do even better than that. Maybe even get a win or two.. who knows.

Originally posted by carver9
OOOKKKAAAYYYY, his showing against galactus in no way should make you think that he can beat odin. Maker? I forgot or dont remember the comic you are referring to so I'm not going to comment on that one.

Yeah, I agree, Thanos would have recovered BUT it would have taken a while for that to happen since Odin had a thousand options under his belt. From what I seen of the ending of the fight, Thanos was laying down, so why didnt odin press his attack?

Why would Odin call Thanos weak? Thanos is far from being weak and I dont think mere blast would drop thanos, Odin would have to put some power behind it and THATS the reason why I think Odin complimented him, because thanos didnt fall as easy as Odin THOUGHT that he would have. Basically, Thanos showed high durability.

That still doesnt change the fact that Odin>>>Thanos.

1,000 options?

Odin respected him as a warrior because Odin was trying to kill him and failed to do so.

Not after the upgrade. It wasn't even prove before the upgrade.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So it's canon for Marvel and since Thanos is an part of Marvel it's also canon for Thanos. 🙂

Anyway. Odin Stomps.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So it's canon for Marvel and since Thanos is an part of Marvel it's also canon for Thanos. 🙂

Anyway. Odin Stomps.

Basically, Quan doesn't like the outcome so he's pretending that he controls what is canon and what isn't.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Basically, Quan doesn't like the outcome so he's pretending that he controls what is canon and what isn't.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Basically, Quan doesn't like the outcome so he's pretending that he controls what is canon and what isn't.

I know. Though everyone else knows that it is canon. 🙂

Some time ago he also admitted that it was canon but that since everyone loses to Squirrel Girl it doesnt mean anything, now his stance has changed and lies to himself and all others. 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why not? he laucnhed Galactus whose power greatly exceeds Odin's.

1,000 options?

Odin respected him as a warrior because Odin was trying to kill him and failed to do so.

Not after the upgrade. It wasn't even prove before the upgrade. Certain events in superman/batman are canon for dc not all of them. same thing here. It's not canon for Thanos.

But Thanos couldnt even move Odin out of his spot, so him launching Galactus is irrelevant to this battle.

When Thanos was laying on the ground, Odin had plenty of option to end it right then.

I agree, he was trying to kill him but I still dont think he was using his full ability during that fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver carver carver... Just because you feel Odin shouldn't have had that much trouble doesn't change the comic and how the fight went. Clearly, Odin was pissed... clearly he mentioned wanting to kill Thanos.. Afterall, he imprisoned his son and was invading asgard and had just wrecked his people (initial warriors). This is indisputable. Now, I will concede that Odin wasn't going all out... but neither was Thanos. Neither of them displayed any of the numerous powers they have. Shoot Thanos didn't even use his shielding to block some of the blows. Do you think Thanos would walk right through Odin's most powerful blast at that point of the battle.. instead of shielding or teleporting away? He clearly was trying to prove a point... He can take whatever Odin can dish out. Period. However, make no mistake Odin was certainly trying way more than 50% and this is clear by his words and actions to put him down. Furthermore, he even says... He hasn't fought someone like this is EONS.. that statement alone proves he feels Thanos is in his league.

Now you speak of upgrades... Well ODG argued that Makers blasts were more powerful than Galactus or Omegas because it KO'd him in one shot while the others fired a continous blast that couldn't penetrate his shields. Of course this is going with the premise that Thanos always has his shields up (which I disagree with by the way) Point is, some believe The Maker was that powerful to KO Thanos in one shot. Yet, when he was ready he took those blasts in stride and dished them back. He couldn't even budge Odin the first time they met.. yet after the upgrade.. He blasts Galactus hundreds of feet in one shot. We never ever seen Galactus blasted and thrown like that. Now personally I believe Galactus to be above Odin. Thus, we must assume that a similar blast from Thanos now after upgrades.. should certainly effect Odin more than their first encounter correct? Anyways, I still give Odin the majority but to think thanos has no chance is ludicris... He was praised by odin himself and a pissed of odin couldn't put him down pre-upgrade. Now, Thanos certainly can do even better than that. Maybe even get a win or two.. who knows.

Why wouldnt Thanos not go all out in a battle that he is loosing?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I know. Though everyone else knows that it is canon. 🙂

Some time ago he also admitted that it was canon but that since everyone loses to Squirrel Girl it doesnt mean anything, now his stance has changed and lies to himself and all others. 😐

True and I also find it amusing that he's demanding that I prove it's canon when I already did so by pointing out where events from the 616 universe(Civil War) had an effect on the book and another instance where it crossed over with a 616 book(Thing mini-series).

Originally posted by quanchi112
This doesn't prove it's canon for Thanos.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I know. Though everyone else knows that it is canon. 🙂

Some time ago he also admitted that it was canon but that since everyone loses to Squirrel Girl it doesnt mean anything, now his stance has changed and lies to himself and all others. 😐

Originally posted by carver9
But Thanos couldnt even move Odin out of his spot, so him launching Galactus is irrelevant to this battle.

When Thanos was laying on the ground, Odin had plenty of option to end it right then.

I agree, he was trying to kill him but I still dont think he was using his full ability during that fight.

You have nothing which supports this notion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
True and I also find it amusing that he's demanding that I prove it's canon when I already did so by pointing out where events from the 616 universe(Civil War) had an effect on the book and another instance where it crossed over with a 616 book(Thing mini-series).

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never admitted it was canon you liar.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thats pis. doesnt count here. superman is awesome and isnt pis. hes dc 's main guy. it sucks though becuz ds has become supermans *****. ds started out so strong only to get his ass kicked all the time now. 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sg is undefeated and it happened off panel. It's not even the real Thanos but it's besides the point.

Thanos dominated the Surfer in a few blows while Prime needed an entire fight back and forth to beat Ion even though mid fight he was exposed to lead.

It seemed so.
Your stance changed from "it's pis" to "it's not the real Thanos" (though we know it was the real one) to "it's not canon".

dur

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It seemed so.
Your stance changed from "it's pis" to "it's not the real Thanos" (though we know it was the real one) to "it's not canon".

dur

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It seemed so.
Your stance changed from "it's pis" to "it's not the real Thanos" (though we know it was the real one) to "it's not canon".

dur

Originally posted by xJLxKing
😂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Going by your logic I could debunk all of Thanos' feats by saying they aren't canon for him or indeed anyone. Him bitchslapping Thing? Nope, not canon for the Thing. See how that works?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The events of this event and such are mentioned throughout Thanos' bio and didn't contradict his character.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Thanos' bio was filled with blatant contradictions, just like your arguments.
He lost to Squirrel Girl and a Watcher confirmed it. Even if his bullshit explanation about his clones were true then that would mean the clone was so close to the real thing that there's no real difference and thus Squirrel Girl defeating said "clone" is the same as defeating the real Thanos. The Living Tribunal could have confirmed it and Starlin still wouldn't have accepted it.

This isn't canon to Thanos it was more of an joke aimed at starlin.

Marvel hasn't accepted it so neither should you.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It seemed so.
Your stance changed from "it's pis" to "it's not the real Thanos" (though we know it was the real one) to "it's not canon".

dur

If you'll notice, he doesn't claim it was a clone or non-canon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
pps squireel girl isnt meant to be taken seriously. she fought thanos off panel. that comic is garbage.

Same here

Originally posted by endrict
Squirrel Girl

Originally posted by quanchi112
off panel in a comic not to be taken seriously.

And now we know why

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9257044&highlight=squirrel+userid%3A108017#post9257044

i just hate squirrel girl so much and find her so distasteful. i really dont count anything she did as real but will only ague in these forums based on if i have to count her in which case she beats karate kid.

IOW, he basically admitted that he's going to ignore her feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldnt Thanos not go all out in a battle that he is loosing?

This is all you had to say carver? You have to alteast concede the points I made as valid and logical.

The answer to your question is... to prove a point... He wasn't going looking for a battle or to kill or put down Odin. In fact, in heeded Odin's help to cure Thor of his "WM" before he became even a bigger threat. So, why on earth would he try and kill Odin or KO him if he needed him. Now I'm not saying Thanos couldn't have KO'd or killed him, what I'm saying is that he wasn't going all out beause he wasn't even looking for a fight and needed Odin's help. To me it was more of a pissing contest by both parties and Thanos being like.. you can dish out whatever you want but I will still be here when you come to your senses about your son.