Originally posted by quanchi112
I was there to save his son so of course I wasn't going to kill the man I was there to show him too. I sent a clone after him later and he almost wrecked all of asgard. I feel bad.
Why didn't you tank his attacks or avoid them, then? I mean, you looked like shit afterwords.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
[B] [QUOTE=12750490]Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Let's say Odin did give his all. Where in any of the panels did Thanos even knock Odin off his feet? Who needs Gungnir?I see you wanted to get into with Quan and merely quoted another post of mine and said really nothing of importance. Since you seem to want to get into a discussion on this topic.. Please address my post below and why I feel like Thanos wins both 1 & 2
Honestly this thread is really a joke. Thanos wins both and very easily in the last one. All it takes is basic logic and reason which seem to be lacking around here. He stomps Odin with ease in the second scenario… A clone with minimal effort or planning beat Odin and made him a non factor as they invaded Asgard. The real Thanos with 5 days prep WTF PWNS Odin with ease.
Now the first Scenario isn't quite the stomp the second one is and Odin does put up a fight and might take a win or two. Maybe. However, Thanos wins a clear majority in this encounter as well. Again, logic and reason make this rather apparent. For arguments sake let's say Odin wasn't going "all out" as I don't have too much issue with this. I could be argued he was but IMO I don't think he was giving it his total best or all out. However, the comic make it rather clear through narration and depiction a few telling things…. First Thanos had trapped his son and this certainly made Odin very pissed. Second, Thanos was invading Asgard and had wiped out many of his warriors before Odin even arrived and obviously he wasn't happy Asgard was being invaded. He speaks many times about wanting to kill Thanos, which again along with the previous facts make it rather clear he was certainly putting forth good effort to do so. Odin's initial attacks that one-shot heralds have little effect on Thanos. He takes some and fires some back. However, lets also understand the context of the shots from both… Odin was pissed and trying to kill Thanos… Thanos wasn't looking for a fight but rather help from Odin to cure his son. Why would you try and ko or kill someone who you need help from before this other guy breaks free and becomes a threat to the universe? The answer is you wouldn't. So that is the context behind those shots from both.
Next we see Odin pull out his spear to put more pressure and bring more firepower to the table. Why would you do so if you weren't trying? The answer is you wouldn't. This is made apparent again by his words and actions. Odin was clearly giving forth good effort to put down this invader and person who captured his son. Not to mention how Thanos mocked him and talked trash to him the whole fight…. Regardless, he pulls out his spear which amps and channels his destruction and Thanos decides to again prove to Odin that he can take whatever he can dish out. Decides to walk right through this now more potent blasts to prove a point. He does so and proves that point. However, is that Thanos fighting smart or tactical like we know he can? Nope.. he decides to walk right through the shot instead of call upon his shields to block that attack or any attacks the whole fight. Lastly, Odin's own words speak to how powerful he considers Thanos… "You drawn on a dark source of power that rivals mine and has no limits" "I haven't fought a foe like you in EONS" I think we all know how long eons is and how many people Odin has fought in that time. Thanos was the top dog and Odin makes this clear. Further proof… Yes Odin was winning and probably would've won.. however that is no sure thing, especially when it comes to comics. How many times have we seen someone just butt-raping another for the majority of the fight and next thing you know… bam.. the tide turns. It happens a lot. Further Thanos has shown the ability and intelligence to back away and leave when he knows he's beat. He has done so against Galactus and Tyrant for example. He knew he couldn't compete with them and has decided to flee before he gets killed. Do we see him have any kind of thoughts like this with Odin? No. Why because he knows he can compete with him and it will be a good fight. Sure he might not win but he's not totally outclassed or fears dying as he has others by engaging.
So.. what does all this prove… well through logic, reason and simple deduction it's rather obvious that Thanos can compete with a 100% Odin who he's not trying to put down but Odin is trying to put him down for panel after panel and earn Odin's praise and respect. Yet, some people think a 50% Odin can put Thanos down and take a clear majority? That is just crazy talk [/B]
So you actually think he was going all out right? All I see is Odin using blasts and pulling out Gungnir. Had Starlin allowed Odin to grow in size or tap into Asgard, what do you think would've happened? Tried to kill? Even after Annihilus had attack Asgard and drained the life force of it's citizen, Odin still spared his life. Had Odin been written dragged him into the middle of space and battled him from there, how is Thanos going stand up to Odin who has flight while the best Thanos could manage is levitation? The number of times Odin has fought galaxy levelers and death gods and won is more than Thanos could ever make claim. Thanos could barely keep up with Tyrant. The only fight he's won was against an unstable Kosmos/Maker. Other than that, he's lost to Galactus, ran from Tyrant, and keep getting up when Odin put him down. Never once did he even manage to move Odin off his feet with ANY ATTACK. This was one of Odin's more low showings and even then he managed to make Thanos look like a chump. He dropped meteors onto Thanos. Contrast that to how he was dragging Forsung through the cosmos and smashing him into stars. Big difference.
Furthermore, you make it sound as if Thanos was there to eat dirt. He agreed that they were going to do it the hard way. He doesn't have to kill Odin but he didn't have to lose either. He looked to be getting slapped around throughout the fight. Never once did he even manage a strong enough shot to move Odin off his feet.
At half power Odin, this would be close but Odin would still win. A poisoned Odin who hadn't the strength to fight still easily one-shot k.o. Ulik. Another instance, a sick Odin one-shots Annihilus who Thor could not defeat.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am Thanos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oA
I have already done so you can't seem to comprehend the fight and the situation they were in and seem to think Odin was screwing around. You need to understand the writer's intent to intellectual conversation can continue.
Starlin intended for Thanos to have a chance to fight Odin but never really even moved Odin. Thanos ended up hitting the ground atleast from three of the attacks and never once moved Odin. Then Jurgens read that and was like yup Odin defeated that dirt eater Thanos.
I guess you can't prove it and now pretend you don't have a clue what it is I am responding to so concession accepted.
So instead of giving me answer, you'd rather avoid it so as to not look stupid when he kick your ass again.
So now Warlock equals the Magus? Really? I mean their mindset is the same right? Do you think you can sub warlock in place of magus? Wow, it's worse than I thought you have no clue do you.
Warlock is Magus fruit. You didn't know this? The souls tormented by the Ultron and the prior Annihilation war ripped at Warlock and turned him into the Magus. Go read a book fruit. You'll learn something. He revealed his true self during the fight with Vulcan. Stop embarrassing yourself with you ignorance.
Sub what? They're the same being with difference mindset. You don't know Warlock becomes the Magus? Lol? You're bio didn't tell you anything about that? It was Warlock who saved Thanos' body and cocooned it and restored him. Magus' took the cocoon and preserved it.
Magus and Thanos were impressive. Thanos defeated billions hand to hand whereas Odin failed to stop an army of ants with asgard at his side. Another comparison that proves Thanos>Odin.
Yes. Blocking bullets and throwing lightning is impressive. Eating dirt is also impressive. Hand to hand? Is that what he did? Cause he was eye beaming people as soon as he got out of that cocoon. Then a blasted the GOTG ever chance he got. Hand to hand? Did you read that from your bio?
So if some makes you eat dirt in a fight, some how you're more impressive? Wait, Thanos destroyed a galaxy with his power? Ever? Oh that's right, none. 9 billion is nothing to a galaxy I hate to inform your feeble mind.
The ants were shown later and weren't impressive in the least. Odin was overran by their sheer numbers not because the ants were all badasses. Looks like somebody didn't read it. Thanos needs a cc to defeat him while mindless after crushing billions while Odin gets overrun by army ants because there's too many of them.Odin went all out and failed good thing Thanos wasn't going all out.
Post those scans as many times as you want it's trolling posting the same images over and over.
They were badasses. Thanos ate dirt while the ants conquered Asgard in a head on fight. Thanos SUCKS!
Here's the retelling of the Thanos Vs Odin fight:
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingDidn't even watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oAStarlin intended for Thanos to have a chance to fight Odin but never really even moved Odin. Thanos ended up hitting the ground atleast from three of the attacks and never once moved Odin. Then Jurgens read that and was like yup Odin defeated that dirt eater Thanos.
So instead of giving me answer, you'd rather avoid it so as to not look stupid when he kick your ass again.
Warlock is Magus fruit. You didn't know this? The souls tormented by the Ultron and the prior Annihilation war ripped at Warlock and turned him into the Magus. Go read a book fruit. You'll learn something. He revealed his true self during the fight with Vulcan. Stop embarrassing yourself with you ignorance.
Sub what? They're the same being with difference mindset. You don't know Warlock becomes the Magus? Lol? You're bio didn't tell you anything about that? It was Warlock who saved Thanos' body and cocooned it and restored him. Magus' took the cocoon and preserved it.
Yes. Blocking bullets and throwing lightning is impressive. Eating dirt is also impressive. Hand to hand? Is that what he did? Cause he was eye beaming people as soon as he got out of that cocoon. Then a blasted the GOTG ever chance he got. Hand to hand? Did you read that from your bio?
So if some makes you eat dirt in a fight, some how you're more impressive? Wait, Thanos destroyed a galaxy with his power? Ever? Oh that's right, none. 9 billion is nothing to a galaxy I hate to inform your feeble mind.
They were badasses. Thanos ate dirt while the ants conquered Asgard in a head on fight. Thanos SUCKS!
Here's the retelling of the Thanos Vs Odin fight:
The fight ended in standstill. That's what happened and Odin respected him as a great opponent he thought he defeated at the time.
You offered your concession just move on.
Do they have the same mindset? So I guess warlock would kill first right just like the Magus? Laughs uncontrollably.
Yes, I knew that and I also knew magus is a lot more dangerous because of his mindset with these powers just like Thor turns into ten times as dangerous when he goes all out and tries to kill right out of the gate. Mindset changes things there, kid.
Yes, he was taking them all on and blasting and what not all hand to hand. Odin lost hand to hand against ants.
When did Odin under his regular mindset destroy a galaxy on his own in a fight?
No, there were just many of them. try picking up a comic once in a while. They overwhelmed the asgardians due to numbers.
That's a clone.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Nah. I read the comic and the bio supports it. Do you consider it a loss when someone asks you to yield and when you say no the fight stops. is that what you are saying?
That knows more than you. This is true.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingThat's what I normally wear outside my annihilation gear.
That's not what he thinks. Apparently dressing up as Thanos and reading bios makes him more knowledge than Jurgens/clone.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So you actually think he was going all out right? All I see is Odin using blasts and pulling out Gungnir. Had Starlin allowed Odin to grow in size or tap into Asgard, what do you think would've happened? Tried to kill? Even after Annihilus had attack Asgard and drained the life force of it's citizen, Odin still spared his life. Had Odin been written dragged him into the middle of space and battled him from there, how is Thanos going stand up to Odin who has flight while the best Thanos could manage is levitation? The number of times Odin has fought galaxy levelers and death gods and won is more than Thanos could ever make claim. Thanos could barely keep up with Tyrant. The only fight he's won was against an unstable Kosmos/Maker. Other than that, he's lost to Galactus, ran from Tyrant, and keep getting up when Odin put him down. Never once did he even manage to move Odin off his feet with ANY ATTACK. This was one of Odin's more low showings and even then he managed to make Thanos look like a chump. He dropped meteors onto Thanos. Contrast that to how he was dragging Forsung through the cosmos and smashing him into stars. Big difference.Furthermore, you make it sound as if Thanos was there to eat dirt. He agreed that they were going to do it the hard way. He doesn't have to kill Odin but he didn't have to lose either. He looked to be getting slapped around throughout the fight. Never once did he even manage a strong enough shot to move Odin off his feet.
At half power Odin, this would be close but Odin would still win. A poisoned Odin who hadn't the strength to fight still easily one-shot k.o. Ulik. Another instance, a sick Odin one-shots Annihilus who Thor could not defeat.
Honestly is this the best you could do? You didn't even address most of my main points and went off on unrelated tangents for some reason. I don't know where to even begin...
1. Did you not see me say I don't think Odin was going all out or giving it his all? I said that very clearly. I said... I thought he was putting forth a good amount of effort and wanted to kill or put down Thanos. Do you think that is a bad quantification of Odin's effort?
2. You can talk about how Odin fought like this against this opponent or did this against that opponent. However, what exactly does that prove? I believe you know that many times characters aren't portrayed the same way by different writers. Even characters written by the same writers don't do some tricks or things they did a previous time the wrote them. So... as you can see that really has little merit and proves next to nothing. You can say all you want that he wasn't really trying because he didn't fight like this or that, which is disproved by what I just said. However, to go further... what matters is what the writer and artist were trying to depict in that comic through narration and depiction. Thus, I am spot on when I say the writers were trying to portray them as relatively close in power levels. I believe they were portraying Odin as superior no doubt there. However, they included very clear lines that drive home the point they were trying to make... "I haven't fought a foe like you in EONS" That is very clear on what they were trying to convey. You draw on a dark source of power that is almost unlimited and rivals mine. The had Thanos walk right through some of Odin's best shots instead of fight smart to prove a point that I thought was rather clear.. Thanos can take some of Odin's best shots. I didn't think basic comprehension was this hard. Thanos wanted to prove a point and did so. Point being, it doesn't matter how Odin has fought in the past... as people portray people differently.. Fact... the writers made it clear with their words how they felt these two matched up.
3. However, since we want to bring up other fights... answer me this... Why did Thanos never back down or have any doubts the entire time he fought Odin. Yet when he's clearly out of his league... he has ran with no issue and admitted he would die if he didn't. He challenged Tyrant and hung with him for awhile until he realized he need to go or die. Same with Galactus and Omega. Yet with Odin... he had no doubts or thoughts of fleeing... What does that say... He didn't feel like Odin was out of his league or that he would die because of the fight. Pretty basic deduction.
4. Lastly, you can't get around the fact that Odin wanted to kill or put Thanos down.. while thanos was going there seeking help from Odin. He didn't want to fight and had just finished fighting the Asgard warriors and had fought PG Thor a little bit before. Odin was clearly fresh while Thanos had been putting in work... Is this true or not? All of what I said is true and put context into the shots that were being fired.
now please address these points and tell me what I said that isn't facts or logical reasonable deductions.
Originally posted by lightyeargeeA black hole caused him to bleed but it didn't beat him so I fail to see your logic here. Odin was trying to kill him and just because he didn't blow up any galaxies that doesn't mean he pulled attacks. You have to use common sense when reading these issues and every fight won't have a planet blow up but this doesn't mean that the fight which lacked the collateral damage lacked the power of these characters.
Because A Black Hole hurt thanos. Black Holes Eat Galaxies slowly. If Odin unleashes Galaxy Destroying power, it will be>>>>>Black Hole.