Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant can threaten and defeat Galactus. For Thanos to being to take punishment from him its an outright feat. This is before his upgrade(s) as well. So he became even more powerful than when he confronted Tyrant.
Correction, a fully powered Tyrant can threaten Galactus, Tyrant wasn't fully powered when he fought Thanos, plus Thanos was himself powered up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasnt powered up to defeat the Maker.Tyrant can beat Galactus whereas Odin wouldnt stand a chance.
The only way for Tyrant to have a chance of beating Galactus would be if he's fully powered, Thanos didn't fight a fully powered Tyrant, also you're leaving out the fact that Thanos had a power up during that fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No a depowered Tyrant had Galactus dead to rights. Again Tyrant is more powerful than Odin anyways.
First, I'd like to see a scan where a depowered Tyrant beat Galactus in a straight fight(IOW, no outside circumstances) and second, Thanos had a power up during the fight.
Since I don't own the issues in question, I looked up Tyrant and while it mentioned a second Galactus fight, it didn't say anything about him having the edge, it did however say that he proved able to feed off of a starving Galactus's energy blasts.
It also mentioned that Tyrant was cut off from his power spheres during his fight with Thanos.
^That's right. Tyrant had millenia of one-sided prep against G, and had G's heralds to use as a bargaining chip to boot. It wasn't really a fair representation of a G vs depowered Tyrant battle.
Thanos was powered up slightly during the Tyrant fight. He stole an orb containing Morg's power. How much of a difference Morg's power made to Thanos is debatable, but the fact that he had it isn't.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Thanos was powered up slightly during the Tyrant fight. He stole an orb containing Morg's power. How much of a difference Morg's power made to Thanos is debatable, but the fact that he had it isn't.
I don't believe it had Morg's power. Tyrant gave Morg his power back to fight Thanos and co.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
I don't believe it had Morg's power. Tyrant gave Morg his power back to fight Thanos and co.
This is the scan that led me to infer that it was Morg's power, or at least some portion of it.
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cosmicpowersv1002p37tw3.jpg
I do recall that Morg was battling Terrax or something in that issue, so you might be right. Do you have a scan of the panel where Tyrant gives Morg's power back?
Originally posted by Ouallada
This is the scan that led me to infer that it was Morg's power, or at least some portion of it.http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cosmicpowersv1002p37tw3.jpg
I do recall that Morg was battling Terrax or something in that issue, so you might be right. Do you have a scan of the panel where Tyrant gives Morg's power back?
I'll see if I can get it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasnt powered up to defeat the Maker.Tyrant can beat Galactus whereas Odin wouldnt stand a chance.
You know I keep seeing this claim regarding Odin not standing a chance against Galactus, and everyone who claims that, here and elsewhere (I have been in threads involving these two here) has no feats that place Galactus at a higher level than Odin.
Fact 1- Odin and Galactus have feats on or around the same level, as Stan and Jack intended by their depictions back in the day.
Fact 2- If you are using Thanos versus Galactus in comparison to Thanos versus Odin, Thanos actually was able to move Galactus in their confrontation, while still losing, whereas Thanos was unable to even scratch Odin's clothing or beard.
Fact 3- Tyrant has never actually beaten Galactus, so I don't know why one would think he can if full powered Tyrant with millenia of prep could not do so.
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So Quanchi here is what you are contending.
That at the time of his battle with Odin, Thanos has durability comparable to the multiverse, and that Odin was going all out with his multiverse damaging power, but no one else in the vicinity was harmed (because what Sif and Puck had Omniversal durabilty?) nor anything destroyed.
Then due to his two upgrades, Thanos now has durability greater than the multiverse.
I think odin will win
But trying to say odin was thowing or not throwing around galaxy level blast because of the damage done to the surrounding area seems....pointless....if we go by that criteria....we can start to pick apart allot....and i mean allot of feats...it is what it is, odin tried to put down thanos
Originally posted by Silent MasterTyrant absorbs his energy blasts. In their battle Galactus resorted to tech and Tyrant countered. Again standing up to Tyrant is more impressive than standing up to Odin imo.
First, I'd like to see a scan where a depowered Tyrant beat Galactus in a straight fight(IOW, no outside circumstances) and second, Thanos had a power up during the fight.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbGalactus almost destroyed Thanos with all his shields up in one shot. Odin failed to put him down in six or seven pages. Galactus>>Odin. Its pretty much understood.
You know I keep seeing this claim regarding Odin not standing a chance against Galactus, and everyone who claims that, here and elsewhere (I have been in threads involving these two here) has no feats that place Galactus at a higher level than Odin.Fact 1- Odin and Galactus have feats on or around the same level, as Stan and Jack intended by their depictions back in the day.
Fact 2- If you are using Thanos versus Galactus in comparison to Thanos versus Odin, Thanos actually was able to move Galactus in their confrontation, while still losing, whereas Thanos was unable to even scratch Odin's clothing or beard.
Fact 3- Tyrant has never actually beaten Galactus, so I don't know why one would think he can if full powered Tyrant with millenia of prep could not do so.
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So Quanchi here is what you are contending.
That at the time of his battle with Odin, Thanos has durability comparable to the multiverse, and that Odin was going all out with his multiverse damaging power, but no one else in the vicinity was harmed (because what Sif and Puck had Omniversal durabilty?) nor anything destroyed.
Then due to his two upgrades, Thanos now has durability greater than the multiverse.
Thanos was able to charge through Odins blast and shrug some of them off like nothing. Thanos also did little damage to Galactus. If you read the comic youd understand even though it launched him it didnt really injure him. 😉
Thanos also took Odins crap for a while. While Thanos looked worse from one Galactus shot. Thanos confronted Galactus after his final upgrade.
Point is he wanted to put Thanos down bottom line. Galactus fought Tyrant but his ship remained intact. Collateral damage doesnt mean that they werent going all out friend. 😛
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant absorbs his energy blasts. In their battle Galactus resorted to tech and Tyrant countered. Again standing up to Tyrant is more impressive than standing up to Odin imo.
IOW, there were multiple circumstances involved in the Tyrant vs Galactus fight that were missing from the Tyrant vs Thanos fight. Which means you can't use one as proof of how impressive the other was.
Now, since the summary I found was correct about Tyrant absorbing his energy, was it also correct that Galactus was starving?
Originally posted by Silent MasterNo he just recently was fed.
IOW, there were multiple circumstances involved in the Tyrant vs Galactus fight that were missing from the Tyrant vs Thanos fight. Which means you can't use one as proof of how impressive the other was.Now, since the summary I found was correct about Tyrant absorbing his energy, was it also correct that Galactus was starving?
