Republican Vice President?

Started by Doom and Gloom5 pages

Given McCain's advanced age, who he picks as a running mate is VERY important. Romney would be the best choice. I hope to hell it isn't Huckabee, the last thing we need is a religious nut in position of serious power.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
due to lack of experience and bad policies/voting history.
Lack of experience is bullshit and bad voting history? I'd ask "are you serious?" but obviously you are. Infact, I think most independants like Obama (or favour him over McCain) opinion polls have Obama with a huge lead over McCain.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
On the other hand, he'd gain the full evangelical vote, and take the election like Bush did in 2004, even with movies in theatres, music videos on TV, and every known face in the world calling for votes for Kerry.
Plus voting machines like the ones in Florida and Ohio and removing likely Democrat voters from the ballot.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Again, just my opinion.

Huckabee would change it back to a typical conservative republican v.s. liberal democrat election...and it'd be tight, but my wager is that conservatives would win.

Once again, look at the opinion polls.

CBS News/NY Times -- July 7-14, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 45% -- John McCain -- 39% -- +6
Gallup Daily -- July 11-13, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 46% -- John McCain -- 43% -- +3
ABC News/Wash Post -- July 10-13, -- 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 49% -- John McCain -- 46% -- +3
Reuters/Zogby -- July 9-13, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 47% -- John McCain -- 40% -- +7
Quinnipiac -- July 8-13, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 50% -- John McCain 41% -- +9
Newsweek -- July 9-10, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 44% -- John McCain -- 41% -- +3
CNN -- June 26-29, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 50% -- John McCain -- 45% -- +5
Mclaughlin & Associates -- June 26-29, 2008 -- Barack Obama - 46% -- John McCain -- 38% -- +8
Rasmussen Reports Tracking June 26-28, 2008 Barack Obama 49% -- John McCain -- 43% -- +6
Gallup Daily -- June 25-26&28 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 46% -- John McCain -- 42% -- +4
The Times/Bloomberg Poll -- June 19-23, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 49% -- John McCain -- 37% -- +12
Newsweek -- June 18-19, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 51% -- John McCain -- 36% -- +15
Rasmussen Reports Tracking -- June 17-19, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 48% -- John McCain -- 44% -- +4
USA Today/Gallup -- June 15-19, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 50% -- John McCain -- 44% -- +6
Fox News/Opinion Dynamics -- June 17-18, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 45% -- John McCain -- 41% -- +4
Reuters/Zogby -- June 12-14, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 47% -- John McCain -- 42% -- +5
NBC News/Wall Street Journal -- June 11, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 47% -- John McCain -- 41% -- +6
Rasmussen Reports Tracking -- June 9, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 50% -- John McCain -- 44% -- +6
Gallup Daily -- June 9, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 48% John McCain -- 42% -- +6

Lombardo Consulting Group
May 26-28, 2008 -- Barack Obama -- 44% -- John McCain -- 40% -- +4

For example.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has effectively taken himself out of the running:
Jindal Says He's not Interested in No. 2 Spot with McCain (Fox News)

But washingtonpost.com's Chris Cillizza is skeptical:
Jindal Campaigning for Veep? (washingtonpost.com)

Every week, washingtonpost.com's Chris Cillizza rates the 5 most likely choices (he believes) for VP for both Obama and McCain.

The Republicans for this week:

5. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal
4. South Dakota Senator John Thune
3. Rob Portman, former Congressman from Ohio, former Director of the OMB, former U.S. Trade Representative
2. Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty
1. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/07/veepstakes_line_its_now_or_nev.html

Originally posted by Strangelove

5. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

He wants to castrate all first-time sex offenders. I like that.

The Cases For and Against Rob Portman, former Director of the Office of Management and Budget, former U.S. Trade Representative, and former U.S. Rep. from Ohio.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
He wants to castrate all first-time sex offenders. I like that.
It may seem like a good idea, but it's categorically prohibited by the 8th Amendment.

I don't see how that could ever be considered a good idea, but then again, I don't have the mentality of a spoon fed *******.

What I meant was I understand how other people would think it's a good idea. I too find it both abhorrent and ignorant.

Yeah, wasn't really refering to you Strangelove, I know you wouldn't think something that dumb. Just general public.

Okay, just checking.

Originally posted by Strangelove
It may seem like a good idea, but it's categorically prohibited by the 8th Amendment.

But the problem with the 8th, is that "cruel and unusual" isn't very clear cut. Here in AZ we still have the gas chamber as a legal form of execution. So I don't see why LA, who has some of the harshest punishments in the country, can't turn child rapists into eunuchs.

I'm sure I said spoon fed assholes, not general public, but whatever.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But the problem with the 8th, is that "cruel and unusual" isn't very clear cut. Here in AZ we still have the gas chamber as a legal form of execution. So I don't see why LA, who has some of the harshest punishments in the country, can't turn child rapists into eunuchs.

You just have to love that Constitution.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But the problem with the 8th, is that "cruel and unusual" isn't very clear cut. Here in AZ we still have the gas chamber as a legal form of execution. So I don't see why LA, who has some of the harshest punishments in the country, can't turn child rapists into eunuchs.
Yes well, states can technically do whatever they want, until someone sues the state or the government. State and federal courts' jurisdictions are appellate (laws can only be overturned if they are challenged). In my view, the Arizona death penalty should be struck down (hell, in my opinion, the death penalty period is wrong), but it just hasn't been challenged yet. If Gov. Jindal tries to castrate sex offenders, you can be sure it would be challeneged almost immediately.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Yes well, states can technically do whatever they want, until someone sues the state or the government. State and federal courts' jurisdictions are appellate (laws can only be overturned if they are challenged). In my view, the Arizona death penalty should be struck down (hell, in my opinion, the death penalty period is wrong), but it just hasn't been challenged yet. If Gov. Jindal tries to castrate sex offenders, you can be sure it would be challeneged almost immediately.

It would be protested by middle-aged hippies in CA who's opinion doesn't really matter, but who in LA will? Take a look at their legal system: lethal force on trespassers is legal just like TX, they have Jessica's Law, and Angola is the worst prison in the nation with an average inmate sentence of 80 years. If we were talking VT or CO, I would agree that it would be an uphill battle to get it ratified, but not in the Bayou State. And Jindal's really serious, its not just speculative coffee talk.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It would be protested by middle-aged hippies in CA who's opinion doesn't really matter, but who in LA will? Take a look at their legal system: lethal force on trespassers is legal just like TX, they have Jessica's Law, and Angola is the worst prison in the nation with an average inmate sentence of 80 years. If we were talking VT or CO, I would agree that it would be an uphill battle to get it ratified, but not in the Bayou State. And Jindal's really serious, its not just speculative coffee talk.

You mean it would be protested by "San Francisco politics"?

Originally posted by Devil King
You mean it would be protested by "San Francisco politics"?

Where that Salvadorian killed the father and two sons? Yeah.

Gruesome Newsom politics.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It would be protested by middle-aged hippies in CA who's opinion doesn't really matter, but who in LA will?
You know there are liberals in every state, right? Hell, they don't even have to liberals. Anyone can look at a law where the victims get castrated and think "Hey...that's not right."

Originally posted by Strangelove
You know there are liberals in every state, right? Hell, they don't even have to liberals. Anyone can look at a law where the victims get castrated and think "Hey...that's not right."

How do out-of-state votes matter in LA issues?