If you Reject Religion.....

Started by WrathfulDwarf4 pagesPoll

Religious Tolerance

If you Reject Religion.....

....would you support any type of "non-violent" religious persecution in our modern times?

Well, if I was to reject religion I wouldn't be in favour for persecution because A) people have the right to believe what they want and B) it would become blurred, and spawn into political persecution, racial persecution, cultural persecution and so on.

Oh, you've edited it...I suppose Non-Violent could be...banning Churches of certain religions or saying Theists can't work in politics or the post office...again its wrong.

As for your poll...I don't get it, Yes to Religious Tolerance, No to Religious Tolerance or is it Yes I favour Persecution, No I don't?

Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
....would you support any type of "non-violent" religious persecution in our modern times?

Are you talking about every religion, or any religion?

What do you mean by "non-violent" religious persecution?

What type of support are you talking about?

Re: Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you talking about every religion, or any religion?

What do you mean by "non-violent" religious persecution?

What type of support are you talking about?

Religion as a whole.

non-violent as in "you" directly harming someone.

Support as in advocator, propagandist, political, etc...

Re: Re: Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Religion as a whole.

non-violent as in "you" directly harming someone.

Support as in advocator, propagandist, political, etc...

Passive harm is just as bad as direct harm. So, the answer would be NO.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Passive harm is just as bad as direct harm. So, the answer would be NO.

Its the whole "washing your hands of it" sort of thing.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Its the whole "washing your hands of it" sort of thing.

If such a think were to happen, my religion would demand that I protect those that I could. The type of Buddhism that I practice is not passive and does fight against evil.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If such a think were to happen, my religion would demand that I protect those that I could. The type of Buddhism that I practice is not passive and does fight against evil.

"For evil to prosper all it takes is for good men to do nothing."

Religious Persecution and indeed any type of persecution would be evil.

Yeah, the way you framed the question means that pretty much anyone would say "no." What normal huamn would endorse persecution of any kind?

I think you might have been looking for non-violent protests. But again, you're just protesting someone else's belief. For that to be viable from any perspective, it would have to be protesting some aspect of a religion that was causing harm to others. If that's the case, then sure I'd have no problem protesting. Otherwise, an unequivocal no.

What do you mean by "reject religion"? If I were in the shoes of someone who viciously hated theists I'd be all for persecuting them.

If you just mean someone who happens to be an atheist then they would have to be a rather nasty person to want to persecute others in any way. Personally I'm against any kind of religious persecution.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, the way you framed the question means that pretty much anyone would say "no." What normal huamn would endorse persecution of any kind?

I think you might have been looking for non-violent protests. But again, you're just protesting someone else's belief. For that to be viable from any perspective, it would have to be protesting some aspect of a religion that was causing harm to others. If that's the case, then sure I'd have no problem protesting. Otherwise, an unequivocal no.

How the hell do you beat me to damn near every topic and quote me verbatim? 😆

Originally posted by chithappens
How the hell do you beat me to damn near every topic and quote me verbatim? 😆

Digi: 5
Chit: 0

I'd say something encouraging like "Great minds think alike" but really I'm just thrilled that I thwart you so often.

313 😛

Sigh, really, I have to type expeditiously.

Your defeat shall come!

Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
....would you support any type of "non-violent" religious persecution in our modern times?
I am religious, but if I did reject religion:

I would actively work against religion in the same manner that religious individuals approach others about religion.

I would support efforts to educate the religious about the error of their ways.

If this would be considered "persecution" then my answer is yes.

Re: Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by Regret
I am religious, but if I did reject religion:

I would actively work against religion in the same manner that religious individuals approach others about religion.

I would support efforts to educate the religious about the error of their ways.

If this would be considered "persecution" then my answer is yes.

But it wouldn't be considered persecution by most. That's education, or at worst evangelization. So I'd co-sign your comments, but again wouldn't advocate anything that I would consider to be persecution.

Well i'd certainly work so that Religion had no benefits over non-religion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well i'd certainly work so that Religion had no benefits over non-religion.

Hmm. I wonder if atheist organizations get tax benefits like mainstream religions...

Originally posted by Regret
I am religious, but if I did reject religion:

I would actively work against religion in the same manner that religious individuals approach others about religion.

I would support efforts to educate the religious about the error of their ways.

If this would be considered "persecution" then my answer is yes.

Depending on how it's done that can slip very quickly into something that is clearly persecution.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmm. I wonder if atheist organizations get tax benefits like mainstream religions...

Their God won't let them do that.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmm. I wonder if atheist organizations get tax benefits like mainstream religions...

Right see, that's the exact thing i'd get rid of... no tax benefits for religious organizations. Or any sort of benefits. They don't deserve anything from the government.

Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
....would you support any type of "non-violent" religious persecution in our modern times?

Absolutely not. I am in no position to dictate what another person must believe. But, at the same time, folks of the other side of the divide MUST understand that their beliefs have no place in politics, my life or the social progress of a nation that recognizes no state religion. Basically, there is no need for religious persecution as long as those who subscribe to it know their absolute faith in it doesn't automatically represent an opprotunity for them to force their personal beliefs on others...much less everyone.