If you Reject Religion.....

Started by DigiMark0074 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
Right see, that's the exact thing i'd get rid of... no tax benefits for religious organizations. Or any sort of benefits. They don't deserve anything from the government.

Well, the idea is that if they are monetarily contributing to our government, they need equal say with other organizations. Which voids the separation of church and state. Otherwise they're being stripped of wealth without gaining benefits, which would be wrong on multiple levels.

I actually agree with tax breaks on those grounds. My musings above were more for ironic value than as an actual argument.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmm. I wonder if atheist organizations get tax benefits like mainstream religions...

Non-religious charities do, yes.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Well, the idea is that if they are monetarily contributing to our government, they need equal say with other organizations. Which voids the separation of church and state. Otherwise they're being stripped of wealth without gaining benefits, which would be wrong on multiple levels.

No, you misunderstood me. They will get the same benefits anyone else gets. They won't get any benefits BECAUSE they are religions, they will get all the same benefits that any "club" gets but not one bit more.

Interesting idea.

Re: If you Reject Religion.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
....would you support any type of "non-violent" religious persecution in our modern times?
Nonviolent persecutions, now as opposed to old time persecutions, are still the same thing. Persecutions are just that. It may not be on plat forms, but it is still on the plat form.

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This is what it would be like, if the majority of people were athiests.

ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go **** a hooker.

ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.

ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive."

ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!

The athiest kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

ATHIEST DAD: Hey!

ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again. I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life."

ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!

ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.

ATHIEST DAD: Why not?

ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men ****ing each other in there.

ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?

ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile. They just aren't finished yet.

ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.

ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!

ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!

The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.

RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate your's! That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that! Die, Christian!

THE END

Scary, isn't it?[/B]

Everyone knows this is how the world would be if a majority of people rejected religion. DUH!

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Everyone knows this is how the world would be if a majority of people rejected religion. DUH!
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Everyone knows this is how the world would be if a majority of people rejected religion. DUH!

Except the end (which has some humorous truth to it) that really doesn't sound too bad for anyone.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except the end (which has some humorous truth to it) that really doesn't sound too bad for anyone.
Haha, yeah, I do tend to agree. Though it is written with obvious disgust at the idea of such freedoms.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except the end (which has some humorous truth to it) that really doesn't sound too bad for anyone.

The part where they want to kill Christians?

😕

I thought he might have literally meant "The End."

Ah. K then. Lulz.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I thought he might have literally meant "The End."

Nah, I am pretty sure he meant the part with killing a christian.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
The part where they want to kill Christians?

😕

Just thing about claiming to be tolerant of religion but still disliking Christians. Burning them is amusing though.

Oh well. Lulz all round either way.

Indeed.

Well...X and Digi's joke ruined...

If a person rejects organized religion it seems for many societies or subgroups that they are rejecting their views, their morals, and their culture. Therefore, they are ruining their idealized concepts of their own ideologies and feel threatened. At this point they strike out against those that think or view things differently. And like the historical evidence has shown, heaven forbid someone should share an opposing view on certain subjects.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well...X and Digi's joke ruined...

...I wasn't joking. I was asking him a question.

And somehow I doubt anyone knows enough atheists to say they're familiar with a representative example of how they'd behave toward Christians. Personally, any atheists I know (quite a few) are among the most tolerant people I know. It's the "angry atheists" that flood youtube videos and discussion forums that create the stereotype, which doesn't usually hold up to legitimate inquiry. In other words, Sym's comments might have been intended as lighthearted, but reveal an underlying cultural stereotype which is largely unfounded.

See my thread "Why Atheists Are Moral" for more on this matter, including numerous studies that link non-religiosity to higher moral standards.

Dudes.

Sym just said that except for the burning Christians that scenario isn't that horrible (i.e. pot isn't very harmful, sexual open mindedness should be accepted, abortions are okay). Though he was probably saying it in a lighthearted manner, I tend to agree.