Michael Demiurgos vs Mad Jim Jaspers

Originally posted by Utrigita
that wasn't the point I merely gave the person that invented the term Omniverse a name.

And since there is no copyright on the term, the companies is free to define the term in what way they like within there comic books.

^errrr, i dont think marvel is greater than dc. i think it is the opposite in some extent. still, the omega affect is plot device reality manipulation, and the anti monitor was greater probably than any universal abstract in marvel, so yea, omegas would lose against him probably. still, normal darksied would lose bigtime to cable anywhere near his full potential.

Well, DC has a multiverse in the DCUA. A Mega verse in the 52. The hypertime verse. The Vertigo Multiverses. the seas of versus of YWH. It also has the Ultimator who is all kinds of verses, including those that could be, would be, and never would be and are.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanx.

To be honest, I wish DC's Omniverse would be a concrete fact,
that way,
it would further cement Marvel having their own Omniverse as fact. 🙂
(it's not about the "scientist," it's about lack there of)

Unfortunately it seems that Marvel is the only company
that has truly indulged the term,
going out of their way in fact,
even literally stamping TOAA as it's creator.

Anyhow I know Rip Hunter stated in 52
that the 52 Universes would expand into a Megaverse.

Later Galan presented a scan of Rip stating Reality was actually beyond infinite,
to me this may suggest that indeed, perhaps reality grew,
or, he may be talking about something else entirely,
sorry, I didn't read the arc, again, I'm speculating from Galan's scan.

Remember, DC has an Omniverse, Metaverse, and now a Megaverse.

Isn't meta-universe and multiverse the same thing?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and hence my original argument of marvel DEFINING the term differently than DC and other, and hence the argument {marvel}omniverse> {dc}multiverse, being wrong as the two are not compareable. this was brushed aside by astner. if then the above argument really IS to hold, then marvel SHOULD define the term as every1 else, and THAT is where marvel shies out due to copyright concerns as they can not claim to have authority over other publisher's characters and worlds because the OTHER publishers define omniverse as containing all publishers and all media. so again, when larvel says omniverse, they are referring to their singular multiverse and sumtimes to their megaverse{and this can be seen with the amount of authority and power the character is displayed}.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^errrr, i dont think marvel is greater than dc. i think it is the opposite in some extent. still, the omega affect is plot device reality manipulation, and the anti monitor was greater probably than any universal abstract in marvel, so yea, omegas would lose against him probably. still, normal darksied would lose bigtime to cable anywhere near his full potential.

That's 2005. You'll notice that Marvel handbooks no longer associate the omniverse with other companies, and even state that TOAA created it.

My two cents on how marvel coins Omniverse. Well to start, by its own definition, Marvel in of its self is a Megaverse. And it acknowledges outside activity, other then Marvel’s own creations..um everything which is compound under the Term Omniverese.

Seems fair, after all they are trying to be as innovative as possible to come up with scripts, and stories to sell. But I doubt, they made up the term and plucked all other fictional verses, with the intention of establishing its mythos over others. Or in short, marvel comes up with shit to sell, not see how its mythos stack up to our opinions in fictional battles taking place in a public forum.

Marvel has been confirmed to have more then one megaverse. Your analysis is false.

Originally posted by id369

It would seem that Omniverse, even by marvel standards is EVERY universe. Hmm. Seems that I and leo were much closer to being correct than any other. It's also interesting that the LT only presides over the marvel multiverse prime and NOT the omniverse as I had previously thought.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It would seem that Omniverse, even by marvel standards is EVERY universe. Hmm. Seems that I and leo were much closer to being correct than any other. It's also interesting that the LT only presides over the marvel multiverse prime and NOT the omniverse as I had previously thought.

This omniverse, megaverse, multiverse shit is getting annoying as hell.
Technically an omniverse can be made up of just 8 universes.

Besides, if all of Marvel is an omniverse and all of DC is a multiverse,
if a Marvel character affected the omniverse and if the DC character
affected the multiverse, I think those are both equally respectable since
both characters affected all of their respective reality.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Funny that you ignored this being an old version and that newer handbooks DO define the omniverse as being marvel-only.

hell, DC has a sea of multiverses that stretch to infinity. Same concept. Different name. It all boilds down to infinite universes. And There are posters who love to USE old handbooks when it's convenient for them, and then tie the meanings to NEWER characters or NEWER feats.

Example, Using Preretcon Beyonder's feats against the LT in the 80's to measure him up to the newer version of the LT.
Good bye.

Damnit, I forgot that i'm not talking to you anymore.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Damnit, I forgot that i'm not talking to you anymore.

You arent talking you are typing. You have stayed true to your word.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Funny that you ignored this being an old version and that newer handbooks DO define the omniverse as being marvel-only.

Can you post it? Or at least give us the title of handbook?

Yeah. Any newer additions of the MU Handbook since 2005.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Damnit, I forgot that i'm not talking to you anymore.

give it a rest. You like debating me and I like debating you.