Originally posted by id369I have not come across in any new handbook
that has updated entry to the omniverse
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Official Marvel Handbook update: (winter 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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On Panel description of Marvel's Omniverse defined above"
"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"
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On Panel artistic depiction of Marvel's Omniverse defined above"
How Marvel's Omniverse is an infinite number of Sol III (616) variations.
(Exiles - 2008)
"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.
An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"
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swank
There's tons of more explicit evidence if you're interested, just let me know.
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As for 616 Jaspers, I'm not interested in who wins,
but in Marvel, even beings with the power over all creation,
over all time/space in Marvel, (like matrix/Merlin) couldn't even touch 238 Jaspers.
And as we know, 616 Jaspers >>> 238 Jaspers.
Literally, in Marvel, the ONLY cat that's had 616 Jaspers number, is the Fury. 🙂
Even in the recent "Die by the Sword" arc,
616 Jaspers was going to destroy the entire Omniverse ... again!
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On Panel,
Jaspers was threatening to destroy the entire Marvel Omniverse again.
According to Roma (Omniversal guardian)
The Writer:
"Starlight Citadel ... home of Roma,
who serves as protector of the Omniverse"
Roma:
"The time has come to face the reality,
that All things,
perhaps
All people are Finite"
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"Everything's in question, and All becomes Finite,
perhaps it's time for the Omniverse to change"
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Is Roma hyperboling?
NOT according to the WRITER:
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(writer)
"For now the players are all taking the stage ... the battle is about to begin"
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"At stake --- well, the Fate of pretty much EVERYTHING"
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Official Marvel Handbook clip - 2008 - Exiles bio ... confirms this to be a FACT!
"Exiles teamed with Excalibur,
to stop Jaspers & the Fury from destroying the Omniverse"
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Jaspers nearly wiped out the INFINITE number of protectors of the Marvel Omniverse,
in the aftermath, the Exiles, with prep, partially re-organized the Exiles:
"leaving Sabertooth as leader with Morph,
Psylock and new members Mystiq, Sage & Shadowcat,
as sole protectors of the Omniverse"
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On Panel verification:
"Prep work is over people, as of now, we're the Exiles,
time to go to work, an' start savin' the Omniverse"
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The Marvel Omniverse!
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Exiles - (2008)
"Those lights we've been assuming was a star, just as we see from Earth,
they represent entire Dimensions.
I think that's a representation of the entire Omniverse,
we're looking at All Creation"
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The Marvel Omniverse!
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Exiles (2008)
"Crystal Palace ... home of the Exiles ...
when they look up into the sky at night at what they believe are Stars ...
... it turns out they're really beholding Entire DimensionS,
the WHOLE, incredible panoply (collection) of the Omniverse ...
... right before their eyes"
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The Marvel Omniverse!
(already presented above with the official Marvel Handbook of winter 2007)
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Exiles (May 2008)
It seems in May 2008 these insane writers of the Exiles
(amongst others like X-Men, Quasar, Earth X, Infinity Abyss, Avengers, FF and Marvel Handbooks)
still think there's a Marvel Omniverse:
"Some heroes protect cities, some countries, some Worlds,
but who's looking out for the ENITRE Omniverse? ...
... One band of heroes shouldered the weight of ALL Possible UniverseS"
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This ain't just talk neither!
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We see an artistic representation On Panel of the Omniverse they're taling about,
the Omniverse they transcend and protect on the very next page:
(same issue May 2008)
"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.
An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"
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yawn
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(Official Marvel Universe Handbook update - Winter 2007)
Core Continuum Designation
"Numerical identification given to each Earth in the Omniverse"
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Here are a few examples of Marvel's Core Continuum DesignationS:
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"Crooked World - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-238"
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"2020 - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-8410"
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"Earth A - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-721"
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Michael still wins this easy
Marvel never stated they have their own omniverse
Marvel will show the omniverse and they cant show other companies so they call it what it is, but its still one omniverse and all reality's are in it
I am still waiting for the definition from the new handbook, i was sure one just came out...no one has it?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and hence my original argument of marvel DEFINING the term differently than DC and other, and hence the argument {marvel}omniverse> {dc}multiverse, being wrong as the two are not compareable. this was brushed aside by astner. if then the above argument really IS to hold, then marvel SHOULD define the term as every1 else, and THAT is where marvel shies out due to copyright concerns as they can not claim to have authority over other publisher's characters and worlds because the OTHER publishers define omniverse as containing all publishers and all media. so again, when larvel says omniverse, they are referring to their singular multiverse and sumtimes to their megaverse{and this can be seen with the amount of authority and power the character is displayed}.
And them defining a term that isn't in fiction locket into a certain understanding, based on copyright, there definition of the term is wrong?
I have never seen a single reference to the omniverse in any single other comic book then marvels and the one reference from DC, for all we know the other companies could be directly against them sharing anything with anyone.
Marvel has never claimed copyright over the other characters that exist in the other fictionel world because that would as you say yourself a direct violation of the copyright however to take a term that only to my knowlegde DC has used once and that has no copyright attached to it, I cannot see how that becomes a violation.
Oh Michael ftw.
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Even Marvel writers withIN Marvel comics in the questionnaires' section,
have meticulously defined what the Marvel Omniverse is:
Originally posted by Galan007For all who are still curious,
Here are the excerpts we are referring to,
from the last page of the latest issue of Exiles:
(questionnaires addressed to the Writers)"The Omniverse... There are infinite MULTIverseS inside it"
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ONLY Omniverse we know of that has infinite MULTIverseS
is Marvel's Omniverse!!!
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Can anyone present evidence of another company claiming THIS? ❌
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Is there On Panel PROOF ...
that directly links an "infinite MULTI-Multiversal Omniverse" with Marvel?
You bet your ass there is. 😎
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(Goblin Queen/Beyonder's essence) ... like I said, ONLY Marvel's Omniverse!!!!
"The Beyonder Walks amongst us ... He will Destroy Everything"
"The MultiverseS ...
the Past ... the Present ... the Yet to Be ... will ALL be Destroyed"
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Hmm ... perhaps just the term MultiverseS on its own isn't enough.
Meh, how's this then ...
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"In the Countless MultiverseS you (Alex) alone are unique.
So much Power in such a small mind ...
we could have Conquered the MultiverseS together ...
Now I will have to do it alone"
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Originally posted by starlockMeaningless scans
Originally posted by starlockand opinion are not proof
So your unsupported opinion >>> Marvel's established on panel and bio facts.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOfficial Marvel Handbook update: (winter 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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On Panel artistic depiction of Marvel's Omniverse defined above"
How Marvel's Omniverse is an infinite number of Sol III (616) variations.
(Exiles - 2008)
"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.
An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"....................................................................................
durlaugh
Yah, you convinced me, therefore I disagree with:
Marvel's On Panel evidence,
that's supported/confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks of Nov. 2007.
(aside from ALL the other proof)
Which basically makes me crazy
Originally posted by starlockand since your not interested in the winner of this match,
just stop spamming the thread
Originally posted by Mr Master
Vs meaningless words?I'll take your word over Marvel's any day:
So your unsupported opinion >>> Marvel's established on panel and bio facts.
Yep, I agree with you, why is Marvel trying to teach you about Marvel?
Yah, you convinced me, therefore I disagree with:
Marvel's On Panel evidence,
that's supported/confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks of Nov. 2007.
(aside from ALL the other proof)Which basically makes me crazy
Pay attention homie,
the Omniverse issue was raised and not by me,
you participated in it asking questions about a new Handbook,
now you see the overwhelming evidence that completely devours intransigence,
and to brush it away, you label it "spam" ... when indeed it's PROOF,
which you seem to have none of.
All I see is marvel backing up thier original definition of omniverse as ALL realities. They haven't said ALL marvel realities. Sorry if I don't see it.
Originally posted by fangirl101All I see is marvel backing up thier original definition of omniverse as ALL realities.
They haven't said ALL marvel realities.Sorry if I don't see it.
Anyhow,
let me know when DC begins presenting copies of 616 in their comics:
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We see an artistic representation On Panel of the Omniverse they're taling about,
the Omniverse they transcend and protect on the very next page:
(same issue May 2008)
"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.
An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"
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Also,
let me know where is it stated that Wanda tore down all of DC and re-built it:
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X-Men Die by the Sword - (Late 2007)
"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"
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Finally ... Let me know, where is it stated that TOAA created all of DC:
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(Late 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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Let me know, until then, whatever. stoned
I'm done, before I indulge the circles to come
between on panel/bio supported evidence
vs
unsupported speculations/theories/and straight up fallacies.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Vs meaningless words?I'll take your word over Marvel's any day:
So your unsupported opinion >>> Marvel's established on panel and bio facts.
Yep, I agree with you, why is Marvel trying to teach you about Marvel?
Yah, you convinced me, therefore I disagree with:
Marvel's On Panel evidence,
that's supported/confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks of Nov. 2007.
(aside from ALL the other proof)Which basically makes me crazy
Pay attention homie,
the Omniverse issue was raised and not by me,
you participated in it asking questions about a new Handbook,
now you see the overwhelming evidence that completely devours intransigence,
and to brush it away, you label it "spam" ... when indeed it's PROOF,
which you seem to have none of.
Right marvel chose to say "the entity believed to be" and your talking about proof 😆
Overwhelming nonsense is more like it, its one thing for someone to bring up the omniverse, but your on multiple scans and not showing any proof
Originally posted by Mr Master
You don't have to apologize for intransigence,
that's not a defect, just a state of mind.Anyhow,
[b]let me know when DC begins presenting copies of 616 in their comics
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We see an artistic representation On Panel of the Omniverse they're taling about,
the Omniverse they transcend and protect on the very next page:(same issue May 2008)
"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.
An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"................................................................................................
Also,
let me know where is it stated that Wanda tore down all of DC and re-built it:..........................................................................
X-Men Die by the Sword - (Late 2007)
"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"..........................................................................
Finally ... Let me know, where is it stated that TOAA created all of DC:
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(Late 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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Let me know, until then, whatever. stoned
I'm done, before I indulge the circles to come
between on panel/bio supported evidence
vs
unsupported speculations/theories/and straight up fallacies. [/B]
what point are you actually making?
