Phantom Zone
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Originally posted by Bentley
Kang's relationship with magic, for what I have read, is difficult to evaluate, since he has never done many remarks. He has countered astral forms, magic detection and beaten a magician in a battle, but this is hardly something that gives him an edge against magic in general.
Showing several good showings against magic certainly doesnt prove he has a weakness for it either.
Originally posted by Bentley
I don't think Batman has a plan nor the ability to beat the Quintessence by himself, for example, this would already take a chunk of a year -but don't ask me, make a thread to see what others think-.
No need to be a smartass, im not even sure if they can be considered to be DC earth.
Originally posted by Bentley
Do we have proof of any of this guys building a cosmic cube level artifact? Are we to suppose they are going to steal it successfully? I feel that unless they build the artifact themselves is kind of deus ex machina to have them use an artifact, if we are to suppose that's an option almost any chump could solo earth.
Sure they can create or find a powerful artifact, there are no rules against it, there are rules against outside help.
Well Reed created a device that could disrupt the cosmic egg in what seemed relatively little time. Maybe its not proof they could create one but it proves he has an in-depth knowledge of them, having those two certainly won't hurt either. Also Red Skull has manufactured a cosmic cube, it won't hurt to obtain it and the tech that created it.
Originally posted by Bentley
Can they get a mother box and use it effectively to defeat everyone? I'm truly not convinced.
It doesnt have to be their only plan, but the fact that Batman can understand a motherbox in 10 days leads me to belive that with the other two the possibilties are endless. You also have to bear in mind a motherbox actually helps the user to achieve its aims for example one motherbox actually merged with Iron Mans armour.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Reed's recent showings are nothing to write home about. And Kang most recently was taken out by Young Avengers...
Reed recently created an anti-Galactus robot. Im not even sure if getting beaten by the Young Avengers even proves that hes weaker because Kang like everybody else has various showings he also doesnt appear that much in comics like Dr Strange does, but when you appear in a current series and look consistently bad and you appear in a mini-series and look bad thats a strong implication that the current version is weaker. I mean the guy couldn't even cast a spell because his hands were broken, its a strong implication that he sux.
Originally posted by Bentley
Good that you bring it up because his armor was hacked by magic, proving he doesn't have experience against it.
Talking about unthinkable. That arc does not prove conclusively that Reed can't counter magic. Later on Reed travelled back in time and could have killed Dr Doom but instead he took some of his DNA, he also used Dr Dooms tech that utilised magic to get him out of hell, he then trapped Dr Doom in an infinite prison which Dr Doom was not able to get out of until somebody from outside smashed into it. Which proves my point if the tech is advanced enough it can counter magic.
Also the unthinkable arcs shows that Reed can use magic if he gets help, using a mindcontrolled Aquaman is still an option.
Originally posted by Bentley
Kang was taken out by himself during that battle (after casually killing Iron-man and Captain America).
Not sure what you're refering to here.