Punisher vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by Starscream M
sabretooth is not as skilled as Logan, nor does he have 3 feet long claws, nor unbreakable adamantium skeleton, nor jobber aura. Punisher with a week's prep makes Sabretooth wish he were fighting the hairy canadian runt.

Sabretooth is still more skilled than Punisher.
And his lack of skill is made up for with instinct and ferocity.

Not having Adamantium is inconsequential as his bones are still dense enough to stand up to Rogue and Ms. Marvel's punches, as well as two full auto clips from DP to the upper body and head.

Wasn't Creed put down by a shotgun blast to the sack once?

When has Sabretooth shown martial arts skill on par with people who give Peter trouble?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wasn't Creed put down by a shotgun blast to the sack once?

Originally posted by jinzin
Sabretooth is still more skilled than Punisher.
And his lack of skill is made up for with instinct and ferocity.

Not having Adamantium is inconsequential as his bones are still dense enough to stand up to Rogue and Ms. Marvel's punches, as well as two full auto clips from DP to the upper body and head.

I wanna side with Sabertooth, but as a sidepoint...you DO realize there are weapons out there that the Punisher COULD get his hands on that can go through steel like a hot knife through butter (as a response to the "his muscles are like steel" that Ms. Marvel stated), and that could pretty much turn solid steel into mush (ergo him as well) right?

However from what you mentioned as his latest HF feats in the blade vs. SB topic, I dunno how much that would help Punisher...

Originally posted by Mindset
When has Sabretooth shown martial arts skill on par with people who give Peter trouble?

Out karated Iron Fist when fist was having trouble gathering chi, scoring first second, and third blood.
Had Psylocke pinned to the ground with a rear arm grab while he was wearing his restraints (which were stated to supress his superhuman senses) and wasn't trying to win by Psylockes own admission.
Out fought Kitty Pride with those same restraints to the point she had to phase on him.
He was able to outfight a Shiva droid which adapts to it's opponents movements and already had a wealth of info on Wolverine and Sabretooth from Weapon X.
Was capible of indefinitely rolling with Wolverine's punches to keep Wolverine from realizing he had an Adamantium skeleton.
By Wolverine's own admission his fighting ability is "superb".
Out fought SPETZNAZ super soldiers using juijitsu.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
I wanna side with Sabertooth, but as a sidepoint...you DO realize there are weapons out there that the Punisher COULD get his hands on that can go through steel like a hot knife through butter (as a response to the "his muscles are like steel" that Ms. Marvel stated), and that could pretty much turn solid steel into mush (ergo him as well) right?

However from what you mentioned as his latest HF feats in the blade vs. SB topic, I dunno how much that would help Punisher...

Lol, yes I know that I'm just tryng to clear up any misconceptions about the character at the moment.

With a week, I'm sure Punisher would be able to cook up something to take Creed down. Though it wouldn't be easy by any means.

I mean back before his Weapon X, OR his Graydon Creed upgrades, Sabretooth was shot with machine guns, blown up, gassed, hit with multiple tasers, and shot with multiple horse tranquilizers all at once and it still took a while to put him down.

Originally posted by jinzin
machine guns, blown up, gassed, hit with multiple tasers, and shot with multiple horse tranquilizers

Not the kind of weaponry I had in mind, but you already mentioned you understand what I mean so... 🙂

I'd say Punisher takes 6-7/10 just because of the week of prep and no adamantium.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Not the kind of weaponry I had in mind, but you already mentioned you understand what I mean so... 🙂

I'd say Punisher takes 6-7/10 just because of the week of prep and no adamantium.

that was just to make a point of how much Classic Sabretooth could take to make the point more effective about what current Sabes would and could in comparison...

Another nice (Though this is after his Graydon upgrade) feat was Bishop drawing the entirety of the X-Mansions power into an explosion that he hit Creed with and Creed got up and vanished after being blasted by it.

Originally posted by jinzin
that was just to make a point of how much Classic Sabretooth could take to make the point more effective about what current Sabes would and could in comparison...

Another nice (Though this is after his Graydon upgrade) feat was Bishop drawing the entirety of the X-Mansions power into an explosion that he hit Creed with and Creed got up and vanished after being blasted by it.

On a completely different subject, you do realize how retarded "healing" factor sounds right? Should be regeneration or something. Otherwise, getting his teeth knocked out would mean his gums instantly heal and so on.

And yes....I think Marvel are insane for making him this powerful.

Originally posted by jinzin
Out karated Iron Fist when fist was having trouble gathering chi, scoring first second, and third blood.
Had Psylocke pinned to the ground with a rear arm grab while he was wearing his restraints (which were stated to supress his superhuman senses) and wasn't trying to win by Psylockes own admission.
Out fought Kitty Pride with those same restraints to the point she had to phase on him.
He was able to outfight a Shiva droid which adapts to it's opponents movements and already had a wealth of info on Wolverine and Sabretooth from Weapon X.
Was capible of indefinitely rolling with Wolverine's punches to keep Wolverine from realizing he had an Adamantium skeleton.
By Wolverine's own admission his fighting ability is "superb".
Out fought SPETZNAZ super soldiers using juijitsu.

I call shenanigans.

Originally posted by jinzin
Out fought SPETZNAZ super soldiers using juijitsu.

Pffft I can do that if they...ya know....are having strokes while being paralyzed.....and I have an m4a1 😖hifty:

Originally posted by jinzin
Out fought SPETZNAZ super soldiers using juijitsu.

Those guys apparently where comparable to Luke Cage according to Victor (but obviously much more skilled) and he was busting out some nice nice grapples, holds and joint manipulation.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
On a completely different subject, you do realize how retarded "healing" factor sounds right? Should be regeneration or something. Otherwise, getting his teeth knocked out would mean his gums instantly heal and so on.

And yes....I think Marvel are insane for making him this powerful.

😂

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Mindset
I call shenanigans.

😂

*riot ensues*

Originally posted by Marvelknight
😂

Sabertooth takes this 8-9/10.

punisher 7/10
he is deadly when it comes to prep.
read MAX and you'll change your mind...

MAX is not CANON..............so utterly useless as evidences...........

Can't punisher be up top on a building and fire away?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
MAX is not CANON..............so utterly useless as evidences...........

i consider it canon. the reasons given for it not being canon are not sufficient to me. its bullshit.

and what? You do realizes he could take pritty much anything punisher could throw at him or dodge it and would have no trouble reaching the top of a building...............hell he could even destroy it supports.........and then franks ****ed

its still the same guy with the same damn skills! what the hell's the problem?