Originally posted by quanchi112
Spectre was coming back for him later.That shows severe limitations for the Spectre anyways.
Turning him into a mouse easily is pretty impressive nonetheless.
Thanos with the ig could take him out with but a thought.
Thanos with the ig>>Spectre from dov that easily turned him into a mouse.
says the man who has never read any significant DC or spectre or phantom stranger appearances.
thanos with the IG<<<<<<spectre.
tha phantom stranger is a fallen angel who neither sided with lucifer nor with god. that is what makes him unique and puts up his relationship with the spectre, who was also a fallen angel who sided with lucifer but wanted to be redeemed and became the wrath of god.
and WHAT is it about MORE POWER THAN TIMOTHY HUNTER that you dont understand???? do you think thanos cud take on tim at his prime? the reason the phantom stranger doesnt get involved directly is that he only wishes to guide others and not partake in it himself. simultaneously going to heaven and hell isnt enough of a feat for you to consider him strong???????? a place where even the spectre isnt allowed.
truly ridiculous, this is bordering on spite, thanos is an insect to stranger.
Originally posted by quanchi112
To me this is hilarious. We come here to debate and all these posters put Ps easily and then asked why either dont post back or claim infinite energies or some other random thing.
PS is an rather passive being. Just because you don't fight or just because no one (except the Spectre) is stupid enough to pick a fight with you, doesn't mean you are not powerful, right?
PS does not fight he guides. That he is freaking powerful is obvious because even though everything falls apart, or is in danger etc, he still walks there unaffected and gives advice to those in need.
One of his "feat" which puts him miles above Thanos (without the THOTI, mind you) is the inability of the enraged Spectre to kill him. Spectre killed Nabu and Shazam, yet he couldn't do it with the PS.
However, his version of the (hostless)Spectre would destroy Thanos with ease.
Originally posted by King KandySo basically you are saying that there cannot be two omniversal beings?
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Marvel just happens to categorize their realities beyond the Multiversal,
giving the term Omniverse more substance.
Because Marvel as we know has MegaverseS,
and each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS.
So ... something like this:
Universe (one reality)
Multi-Universe (more than one reality)
Multiverse (infinite number of realities)
Multi-Multiverse (more than one Multiverse)
Megaverse (a collection of MultiverseS)
Multi-Megaverse (more than one collection of MultiverseS)
Omniverse (all of the above) or (all UniverseS in Marvel)
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I know you know all this already, it's for the onlookers good friend. 🙂
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Did you not read one of my previous posts?
For one, he can ascend to Heaven and Hell in milliseconds and restored his powers to its original state after Spectre turned him into a mouse (Xanadu didn't restore her eyes, which proves she is inferior to PS).Looks like he intentionally made himself lose to Spectre.
Spectre does not have enough power to kill PS, proving that he is the near-equal of Spectre.
Madame Xanadu literally has no powers other than seeing the future.
Doesn't really "prove" anything.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ spectre didnt have enough power to destroy him that is why he turned him into a mouse after which he simply willed his power back. nuthing remains hidden to the phantom stranger, he currently weilds more power than timothy hunter {and that is a scary SHIT LOAD of power} and is his mentor.what more do you need to know, thanos isnt even in the same playing field as the stranger even with the infinity gauntlett.
I've read every issue of Gaiman's prelude series and Tim's two solo series. AND the non-canon Life During Wartime. And the Hellblazer crossover, books of Faeire, Children's Crusade, Mr. E, the single issue Mike Carey run of Hellblazer that Tim shows up in, Trenchcoat Brigade.
That's all of Tim's appearances. Phantom Stranger only shows up twice in interacting with Tim, and twice more in a Hunter-related book.
How exactly do you come to the conclusion that the Stranger is more powerful than Tim Hunter?
On another note:
that's the Phantom Stranger getting decked by Terry Thirteen.
TERRY FREAKING THIRTEEN.
In Ostrander's Spectre, he got wrecked more easily by the merged Spectre/Eclipso than Zatanna, Dr. Fate, or Etrigan. He's been beaten by Dr. Fate and Eclipso before as well.
I'm tired of the "Spectre couldn't destroy Phantom Stranger, so that means he's uber-powerful" logic. The Spectre can't destroy anything that has a necessary function within the Cosmos. He couldn't destroy Darkseid either. That doesn't necessarily prove that Darkseid is too powerful for the Spectre to face. The Phantom Stranger has a mission from the Presence, or God, and as such, couldn't be fully killed by the Spectre.
Anyways, I'm not arguing that Thanos can beat the Stranger. The problem with the Phantom Stranger is that he's too unquantifiable of an entity (example: his four separate origin stories) to really categorize in terms of his power levels.
Anyways, lets show the PS some love. Here, watch how manly he is in dealing with this lion:
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeThe spectre couldnt destroy Darkseid either.
PS is an rather passive being. Just because you don't fight or just because no one (except the Spectre) is stupid enough to pick a fight with you, doesn't mean you are not powerful, right?PS does not fight he guides. That he is freaking powerful is obvious because even though everything falls apart, or is in danger etc, he still walks there unaffected and gives advice to those in need.
One of his "feat" which puts him miles above Thanos (without the THOTI, mind you) is the inability of the enraged Spectre to kill him. Spectre killed Nabu and Shazam, yet he couldn't do it with the PS.
However, his version of the (hostless)Spectre would destroy Thanos with ease.
Is this all you have? Did you see how easily he turned him into a mouse. 😂
